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The Force - Defences
Topic Started: Sep 6 2008, 07:33 PM (82 Views)
Liam Sr.
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Basiclly, whether you want to listen, flame or whatever. Do what you want I am posting this for your own benefit.

Right as things stand we have one rule, common sense. So why are people not using ??

Some of you will say, why is he saying this??

This is why...

Someone said I couldn't resist Deadly Sight today, BOLLOCKS!!!!

Deadly sight - Wookieepedia Desc : Something shit about burning eyes out, like fuck it does.

Deadly Sight - SOURCES DESC - Is a descendant of Sith Spells that causes an illusion on the mind and forces the mind to believe it is shutting down, the brain believes the illusion so much that the brain does shut down - this is my interpretation of the Sources DESC.
Therefore resist is the defence.

The Sources and the Wookiee articl are contradicting so much its unreal, Wookiee is editable, the sources aren't


Another one.

Force Lightning/Storm/Shock
Defense : Absorb

It is physical attack, you can absorb the impact, the electricity, the force energy and turn it around or use Force Deflect/Reflection whatever it's called.

Drain - Should be null and void, Force Breach can be used on ANY force power due to the simple reason, Force Breach doesn't just break the concentration of the caster, it cancels out ANY FORCE ENERGIES, forget fucking Dissipate or drain. It's impossible to drain someones shield because where does the force energies go from the shield?? in your pocket, you don't absorb the shield because it is personal force, howver the shield/barrier takes physical form over the caster, therefore once has been casted, it exists, can't drain it. It's fucking stupid.

Drain force is an offensive force move, not defensive. Drain Force saps the force energies from WITHIN the being, you cannot sap force energies from THE FORCE ITSELF, the force is sheer raw energy, IMPOSSIBLE TO DRAIN IT. Put it this way

Raw Sheer Force > Transfers into invidual force energies for the caster

Once the transfer from sheer raw force energy to individual force energy, the energy has been contaminated by the will of the user, thus making you able to drain their force energies, once the power has been completed whatever it may be, storm, lightning whatever. It isn't contaminated anymore because its turned into physical form.

Thats my theory anyways, as for the ones before that is common sense, Wookiee is one of the biggest bullshitting source sites ever, the Sources of Wookieepedia say so many different and TRUE things that are VALID where as the articles always get fucking tampered with.

Force Lightning - I have been proved wrong, you can't absorb it.

But for everyone else, stop fucking doing this shit.

Stop bullshitting about force moves, it's fucking ridiculous, just because people are getting better and learning what they are supposed to, doesn't give you any form of fucking excuse to try and create technicalities to win on, I have always been a fair and firm force user, I'm not saying I am god when it comes to the force, but I don't edit articles of wookiee to my will or benefit, I don't create massive theories on the force apart from the one above that seem so ridiculius that it makes it sound like you are the only one to create the force.

STOP FUCKING AROUND AND GET ON WITH IT.
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Seamus //
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Hear fucking hear.
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BuchataNu
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Alright
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Aaron
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People are so used to the way it is now, I'm all for more "realism" but alot of people are already the way the are, it's hard to change something that's been that way for years.
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PJ
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In my opinion, this is how it should be:

Shield/barrier/bubble/armor/immunity/protection - Breach.
Any form of telekinesis - Resist.
Lightning - Dodge, absorb/dissipate (both of them are the same), block with Saber, deflect.
Stun/stasis - Resist.
Diminish/Deadly Sight - Resist or breach.
Force destruction/Kinetite - Dodge, FORCE resist, Force deflect.
Burst - Shield, resist.

So, yeah. Basically lotsa resisting and breaching.
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Aaron
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To be honest, it should be down to common sense. If it's a physical manifestation of the Force, then absorb it/dissipate it.

If it requires constant concentration to cast, breach it.

If it affects you mentally, resist it using willpower.

Just use common sense, alot of powers can be put off in various ways. Use your head.
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Sir Prideous
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But fact is Realism is shit, you play games to do something you cannot do in real life, let say you play a first person shooting game and if you got shot in the leg your charcter fell down crippled for the whole round and lost health due to blood lost, people would complain.

All games only have slight realism.
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Elliot
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The misconception is, people expect there to be "Rules" constructed about the Force. They dont realize this is impossible.

The Force, and wookieepedia is constantly changing to be more correct and specific. Those who wish to defend the Force are also expected to research it.

"I have a life. I dont feel like researching."

Tough shit. This is SWRP - you're already a dork.

"But Elliot, you only say this so 'cos you know you're good at Force and so you can have your own way."

If it were up to me, Force would be more simpler. Hence why I introduced/suggested rules which limited us to only using a select amount of well known Force powers.

I never intended on researching the Force, but I've been role playing for years. I've just instinctivly inherited the knowledge through the situations I've been in. The same will happen for all of who dont research. They'll pick up on it through time.

But as for now, people complaining about they dont know how to defend Force powers, then as I said. Tough shit. Research it. It's not hard, it really isnt. People exagerate it saying "Oh it's soooooooo long".

Thats just being lazy. Thats just being effortless. There's one thing to claim devotion to the RP, yet these people turn around and cba to research something very important to Star Wars?

"But Elliot, this is SWRP. Not real SW."

Why you think SWRP was created in the first place? To be like Star Wars. To act like we're in Star Wars. There's no second-hand version. There's no cheap or easy way through it. You wanted it, you joined it, you got what you paid for.

Thats like saying "I want to go to McDonalds, but I dont like McDonalds because they sell a BigMac. I'll go to wimpy instead."

Or thats like saying: "KFC is less-fattening then McDonalds".

It's bullshit, lol. You can spray whatever you want with whip cream, doesnt determine that what's underneath tastes like shit or not.

One of my favorite sitations were about Force Lightning.

Facts are:
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If Force lightning hits you, then your body is surged with Lightning. When humanoid bodies are surged with Lightning, these side-effects take place: Prolonged exposure to intense electrical fields (such as a sustained current of Force lightning) caused most humanoids to experience sudden and massive calcification of their skeletal system; the abrupt drop in blood minerals provoked muscular microseizures all over the victim's body. Telltale symptoms included generalized muscle aches and double vision. A blood test or bioscan could be used to confirm the diagnosis. Unless the victim received complete bed rest and appropriate medical treatment, the disorder would become chronic, lingering for years (barring timely bacta immersion).


This proves that once you're hit with Lightning that your muscles become disabled. Your concentration is gone, thus no Force. You cant move due to your muscles. You drop your weapons, because you do not have the muscular strength to hold them.

Yoda absorbed Lightning BEFORE he was hit by it.
Asajj Ventress did not absorb it. It hit her, and she wasnt able to do anything. She eventually woke up two days later in Dooku's private chamber.
Anakin Skywalker was THROWN by Force Lightning by Dooku. This shows that, either Lightning has TK ability, or Dooku simply used TK at the same time (unlikely).

"This seem too powerful for people to use!"
Technically, it is limited to Sith Masters. The games allow you to use Force Lightning, sure. But notice how in every game you play someone elite, who's strong in the Force. No one in role play is allowed such privildge.

I guess this topic will turn into replies where people ask questions on whats right and whats wrong. So go ahead, I'd be happy to answer. But even I'm not as accurate as wookieepedia. It'd be best to consult wookieepedia.

"Why do people trust wookieepedia? Half of it could be bullshit!"
The sources/appearances section at the bottom of each article are mediums in which the writer has gotten the information from.
Books, comics, games, movies. The writer does not write the article based on his/her own opinion. He/she is only allowed to include what has been stated in official LucasArts merchandise. Anything that is added without evidence of sources will be deleted. Wookieepedia has good moderators. Have faith in it. We are truely lucky to have it.

"Wouldnt this mean some force powers are god-mode as they cant be defended?"

Technically, every Force power can be defended. You just need to defend at the right time. There's not a defense for everything.

Tough crap. Welcome to the Game.

-Elliot.
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Sir Prideous
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I really can't be arsed to read that, so I'll just add a :imbored:
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Lucifer Kast
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Beau.
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Rofl@JAmie.
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Aaron
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I agree with Elliot. Things don't need to be written out.
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