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Think about the noobs.
Topic Started: Jan 6 2008, 04:23 PM (303 Views)
Zzeldathree
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well, regardless of my time waisted on typing on this thread, im coming to the order tomorrow after school with my brown and creme jedi robes.


i guess if you want to just were anything lie purple or gay rainbows, you can. have fun with that. i shall stick with traditional jedi robes.
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Jan 6 2008, 08:03 PM
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Jan 6 2008, 07:09 PM
We have bigger things than dress codes to deal with. If you want noobs to reckognize Jedi, all you need is the word "Jedi" in your mission. They don't care they read missions not clothing. But if you want to biitch at me saying I don't want a dress code because of how I dress, GTFO I wear Brown and White robes.

then why is it if a rp'er is wearing dark colours, noob jedi call him sith.. without reading the mission to check for it?

^.^

my point is valid :)
have a nice day

How do you know they don't read the missions?

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And wear what you want, as I told Jon, Traditions are different for everyone, and they are what you make them.
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i suppose your right tree. but, i will continue to were these robes. plain old brown and creme.

the reason i will is because the last time i wore black and brown in the order some noobs were like buggin me callin me a fuckin sith... so i decided to stick with brown/creme
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That's your right, but if we were to tell Jedi they may only wear one color, it would strip them of their personality. And personality is what makes the Jedi great, without it it's a cult.
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i see your point. i guess so.

an example of this is anakin wearing black cause of his anger
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it matters very much, jedi robes are a symbol of the jedi, and this is a ROLE-PLAY, we are supposed to make it feel real.

I stopped reading the topic after I read this ^---

Heh, that's exactly what Tiwaz was like. He even made me wear traditional Jedi Robes, even though I didn't want to. Nowadays I always wear brown.

*cough* I suggested uniform codes.
*cough* The council declined.
*cough* Idiots.

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And personality is what makes the Jedi great, without it it's a cult.


Jedi self-discipline.

Conquer Arrogance.
Conquer Confidence.
Conquer Defeatism .
Conquer Stubbornness.
Conquer Recklessness.
Conquer Curiosity.
Conquer Aggression.
Conquer External loyalties.
Conquer Materialism.

Peace Over Anger;
Honour over Hate;
Strenght Over Fear;
Loyalty Over Darkness.

Traditional Jedi were keen to keep the Force "in balance". They attempted to achieve this by destroying the Sith and denying the dark side — essentially "keeping balance" by denying balance, as they viewed the dark side as "corruption".

The organizational goal of the Jedi Order was to maintain peace and justice in the galaxy.
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I keep seeing people pointing out that different ranks have different Robes.

My main knowledge lies with the Sith, but where did this Rank/Robe thing come from? As far as I know, each Jedi chooses their own robes regardless of Rank. But Brown was the Jedi color, undoubtedly springing from their philosophy of Unmaterialism and Selflessness.

I see so few Jedi actually following the code these days. It depresses me.

-Pyro
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We have bigger things than dress codes to deal with. If you want noobs to reckognize Jedi, all you need is the word "Jedi" in your mission. They don't care they read missions not clothing. But if you want to biitch at me saying I don't want a dress code because of how I dress, GTFO I wear Brown and White robes.


It's obvious you have bigger things to deal with. But dress code it utterly common. You shouldnt have to deal with dress code. The fact your uniforms are brown/cream should be totally natural and essential to you. Should be fixated in your head.

Noobs will sure, read the motto. But they're impression and view on you wont be complete until you look like the typical Jedi. How would you know what they read? How do you know they don't care? I'm not bitching. It was just a mere topic in which I posted my thoughts. Not demanding orders that you should change. It's just random suggestions, and advice. It's random conversation. It's up to you whether you choose to embrace it or not. To be honest, you should think less on what YOU want, and pay more attention to whats really expected of you.

Brown and white does just the trick IMO.

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think, if there's a certain logical reason, someone can wear what they want. Other than that they have to wear standard jedi clothes.
ENFORCEMENT

We should do a belt thing kinda like Karate
one color for each rank. Sort out the caste system among the jedi.

Yes I agree, that the initiates, students, etc. should wear Brownish creamish clothes. However, once they go onto Padwan it's up to their masters if a padawan can change his attire or not, or have the master choose for them.


Or, you should stop coming up with your own pathetic ideas, and simply follow the traditions of the Jedi which already exist?

You already have "Kendo sticks" frankly, I didn't know Kendo was a martial art in Star wars. :)

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guys honestly, blue is for senitels, black is for jedi that are like partly evil.


Brown is for Sentinels.
Brown is for Guardians.
Brown is for Consulars.

Your pathway effects your use and style of combat, not the way you dress. The Lightsaber, and the Traditional attire are symbolic of the Jedi.
It's represents that you are a Jedi. The colour of your Lightsaber however, is symbolic to your pathway.
Blue Lightsaber = Guardian.
Green Lightsaber = Consular.
Yellow Lightsaber = Sentinel.

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white, cream, tan, brown, and blue are pretty much jedi robe colors.


http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Jedi_appare...aditional_robes

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honestly, no jedi weres purple or like rainbow colors, so just stick to normal jedi clothin, not random habbo clothing.

and people identify us with our cloths, not jus our mottos.

if a noob comes in and sees the masters with purple, they are gonna were purple too!

all that= more nooby non-jedi colors.


This fella is fucking brilliant.

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Actually they won't wear purple they'll wear whatever the hell the sticky tells them to wear. And if they don't read mottos they aren't going to last long enough in this rp to matter. Sadly. Partly do to their lack of patience and partly do to our selfishness.


Or they'll feel like shit. All Jedi, amongest themselves are to be treated equally. A Master does not have more right than a Padawans or Initiate, to wear whatever he wishes. The Initiate, and the Padawan are to dress in Traditional Jedi Robes, just as the Master is also expected to do.

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-Tiwaz was a great Gm, but why are we talking about this topic again? It's the past, it's done with, move on with the Rp.

As for the Jedi Attire, of course Masters would want them wearing brown and cream, but does it really matter?


It matters if you are TRUELY dedicated to being a Jedi. Frankly, if your not then why the fuck are you being one? This isnt pointed at you, it's pointed at all of them.

Tiwaz was a good GM. Saying "Past is past, move on with RP" shows you have no fucking clue. To move on with the RP, you need to look back on what worked and then re-create it, re-experience it. It's done with, yes, and you will eventually be done with - but in failure if you don't refer to the past as guidelines.

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it matters very much, jedi robes are a symbol of the jedi, and this is a ROLE-PLAY, we are supposed to make it feel real.


Boy got skeelz!

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No offense, because you're new and all. But Jedi Attire doesn't mean anything. People want it because they think it looks good. Does me wearing Red have anything to do with my Rp? (don't think so, so it matters not)


You wearing red does not give off the impression you are a Jedi. Sure, it doesn't effect YOUR roleplay (pretty selfish to only think about yourself.) but it does effect OTHERS role play. If your truely dedicated to your Jedi Traditions, and wish to wield the title of Knight, or Master then it's worth proving it by respecting the traditions and following within their previous footsteps.

So what if he's new? He's new, and he has more sense than any of you. Just shows you got alot of work to do. Your that deep in the ditch.

Whats also selfish, and arrogant is that you only care if effects your role playing experience, and as you said, if it doesnt - then it simply doesnt matter. Which obviously isnt the case. And if you think that inwards, then you should not be a Jedi.


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then why is it if a rp'er is wearing dark colours, noob jedi call him sith.. without reading the mission to check for it?

^.^

my point is valid smile.gif
have a nice day


Anuffa Boy wid skeelz.

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Eh, in Kotor, and even in the Comics, not all Jedi wore Brown.

Juhani - Red.
Bastila - Yellow // Cream

And alot of them held blue, and I think saw someone in Black in Dantooine. I doubtr it though. Padawans, Younglings, were inforced to wear brown. No Cloaks, like the Jedi have, just basic robes, and the cloak was reserved to Knights, and Masters, which usually went on Missions. Anyway; the robing for Knights, wasn't inforced, the robes, reflected themselves. Or I think so.

Yes, Luke wore Black, but he also wore cream. It changed during different parts of his life, and training. Myself, I don't limit colors, regardless. The color of your robes, means nothing when you rolelpay. Most Jedi Garments were extreamly different, than a Civilians. So it doesn't matter, what color they are.

Anyway, a dress code would only make it worse to the Jedi. You have to remember, we're AFTER the NJO series, so most of whatever is happening in NJO the Jedi are following. And that means, love is allowed, feelings are allowed, and the Jedi have free will. And if Elliot wants to change that, he will have to influence the Council IC'ly.


Those were the days of the Old Republic. You need to stop focusing on what Jedi used to wear, and focus more on what they typically wear. In the special case of KotOR, and the comics, yes it's obvious that they did sometimes wear Blue, and even a maroon colour, and yes Luke Skywalker used black. But in the eyes of a noob, they're not bothered with the comics, or the games, they're in with the movies. It's the biggest
interest, and the biggest appeal that Star Wars has offered, and to be honest in every movie the Jedi have been in brown, apart from Luke Skywalkers special case, and ONLY case.

I'm not trying to remove your "right" to wear whatever you wish. By all means do, I honestly dont give a fuck about your selfish and spiteful attitude. I just think the eyes of others who are considered beneath us should be interested in what we do. By dressing like a typical Jedi, we become more appealing to them and our population will grow, enforcing roleplay utterly. Try thinking about the long run once and awhile.

I don't have to influence shit "ICly". I made a topic, I ranted on about my views. Why? I'm allowed too. It's what I'm here for. Deal with it. I felt the need too. Whether you acknowledge it or not is utterly your choice, and whether you choose to or not will determine what people rate you as a roleplayer, as a Jedi, as a representative, and as a leader.

You have reputation at loss here. I do not.

You can continue to sit there, blert out about all the bullshit thats allready happened within Star Wars, which instantly thinks you have the right to be the same way. We're in our own era. This isnt NJO era. This isnt Old Republic Era, and this isnt Galactic Empire Era. It is our own era, and because of that it's best to obide by the common and typical.

Example: Through out every era, Jedi have been noticed and picked up apon, for typically wearing brown and cream clothing. There are some special cases, but if you wan't to get technical, then here we go:

80% of Jedi dressed in brown.
20% dressed in something else.

You all think your that rare, special, and unique 20% ?
Haha, you got some nerve calling others bigheaded.

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"Your Jedi cloaks?"
"They're just cloaks. Jedi don't wear uniforms."


Before Han even spurted his cream into Leia's sexhole, there were already well-known "Jedi Uniforms"

Examples:

"Jedi Knight Robes"
"Jedi Master Robes"
"Cloak of the Kursk"
"Traditional Jedi Robes"
"Initiate Robes"
"Padawan Robes"

Sources: Just about everything.
Appearances: Just about everything.

Shows how much Jaina Solo knows, because all that shit was around thousands and thousands of years before she popped out.

Pfft, no wonder NJO was written by fans.

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And wear what you want, as I told Jon, Traditions are different for everyone, and they are what you make them.


Jedi have their own Traditions. I suggest you acknowledge them, or re-think your position. In the Jedi, nothing is about what *YOU* want. Infact, in the Jedi *YOU* are nothing. You mean *NOTHING* you are a mere guardian of the peace, and your only concern is the safety and protection of others lives.

Not "WOT U MAKE THEM LOLZ."

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That's your right, but if we were to tell Jedi they may only wear one color, it would strip them of their personality. And personality is what makes the Jedi great, without it it's a cult.


Personality makes a Jedi great? The ability to serve and protect, and to save as many lives from crime, and injustice as possible, and at the same time, surviving harsh discipline, training, and fighting off your own kind, twisted by the dark side - WITHOUT any concern for yourself, and your "personality" is what makes a Jedi great.

Wanna' know what made Tiwaz great?

He shared little concern for his appears. Traditional Jedi Robes would give off the right impression, therefore they were worn, and were not changed. His Lightsaber, basic - constructed by himself, when he was once a Padawan. The crystal - symbolic to his selected pathway of Sentinel.

Was any of this ABOVE his duty? No.

Concern for his duty came before PERSONAL INTEREST.

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an example of this is anakin wearing black cause of his anger


It's dark brown - they're Padawan robes.

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Heh, that's exactly what Tiwaz was like. He even made me wear traditional Jedi Robes, even though I didn't want to. Nowadays I always wear brown.

*cough* I suggested uniform codes.
*cough* The council declined.
*cough* Idiots.


Your council is full of mere Padawans.
Why?
They obviously all have much to learn. Basic of the Jedi would be a start.

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Jedi self-discipline.

Conquer Arrogance.
Conquer Confidence.
Conquer Defeatism .
Conquer Stubbornness.
Conquer Recklessness.
Conquer Curiosity.
Conquer Aggression.
Conquer External loyalties.
Conquer Materialism.

Peace Over Anger;
Honour over Hate;
Strenght Over Fear;
Loyalty Over Darkness.

Traditional Jedi were keen to keep the Force "in balance". They attempted to achieve this by destroying the Sith and denying the dark side — essentially "keeping balance" by denying balance, as they viewed the dark side as "corruption".

The organizational goal of the Jedi Order was to maintain peace and justice in the galaxy.


Despite your times of annoyance, you've come along way. In some ways, Tiwaz, and myself are proud to see the knowledge taught has not gone in one ear, and out the other.

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I keep seeing people pointing out that different ranks have different Robes.

My main knowledge lies with the Sith, but where did this Rank/Robe thing come from? As far as I know, each Jedi chooses their own robes regardless of Rank. But Brown was the Jedi color, undoubtedly springing from their philosophy of Unmaterialism and Selflessness.

I see so few Jedi actually following the code these days. It depresses me.

-Pyro


Thanks for summing it up for me.

-Elliot.
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I thought Elliot was pointing out that wearing brown would attract more new kids. So why is everyone flipping out? Because Elliot said it?

I agree with Elliot. So why not try this, eh?
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It annoys me when people disagree with people solely because of personal grudges.

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honestly, no jedi weres purple or like rainbow colors, so just stick to normal jedi clothin, not random habbo clothing.

and people identify us with our cloths, not jus our mottos.

if a noob comes in and sees the masters with purple, they are gonna were purple too!

all that= more nooby non-jedi colors.


This fella is fucking brilliant.


WOW! Elliot things i'm fucking brilliant xD

So, are we gonna have dress code, are out we gonna let people stick with their (gay) rainbow personalities?

Furthermore, my opinion is that Jedi Robes and SwRp skills make up a jedi.
What they were to describe their "personality.. not so much.
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honestly, no jedi weres purple or like rainbow colors, so just stick to normal jedi clothin, not random habbo clothing.

and people identify us with our cloths, not jus our mottos.

if a noob comes in and sees the masters with purple, they are gonna were purple too!

all that= more nooby non-jedi colors.


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No one is dissagreeing. I'm just pointing things out, I'm not chosing sides, regardless on who's on them. >>;

Zz said, Jedi always wore bornw, and I pointed things out. I try to avoid these kinds of posts.
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"Since they were given what they needed and their desires were controlled, most Jedi wore traditional yet simple Jedi robes, not feeling the need for fancy and outstanding outfits. The simplicity of the Jedi apparel was in many ways symbolic of the selfless compassion that characterized the Jedi order"

Being in "robes you personally like" is going against many basic principles of the jedi. I honestly suggest those who think they're "masters" learn basic principles of the jedi, rather than 10000 force moves.
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Being in "robes you personally like" is going against many basic principles of the jedi. I honestly suggest those who think they're "masters" learn basic principles of the jedi, rather than 10000 force moves.


They can't even learn Force powers correctly either.

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No one is dissagreeing. I'm just pointing things out, I'm not chosing sides, regardless on who's on them. >>;

Zz said, Jedi always wore bornw, and I pointed things out. I try to avoid these kinds of posts.


Funny how all the Jedi started changing the brown.

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It annoys me when people disagree with people solely because of personal grudges.

-Pyro


Ditto.



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  I thought Elliot was pointing out that wearing brown would attract more new kids. So why is everyone flipping out? Because Elliot said it?

I agree with Elliot. So why not try this, eh?


When Elliot says that eating chocolate cake will make you fat. Others will turn around and say "WTF U TALKING ABOUT."

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