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My vouch for independance
Topic Started: May 10 2007, 09:29 AM (178 Views)
Reid
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YOU ARE HERETICAL AND BLASPHEMOUS
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Sam
May 10 2007, 05:18 PM
No not at all.
I still have alot of respect for Elliot, but i see that i am being dragged down by it.
PJ, You know that i don't backstab.
It's not my way.
And Daniel, I don't even know who you are so you have no right to talk to me in such a way...
I realise i may have pissed some of you off. That is why i am trying to sort myself out.
Thankyou.
Sam.

. . .

Sam, this post fucking pisses me off to the core of my being.

He has no right to talk to you this way? Oh, so are you divine?

Only those who you know have the right to even talk to you?

To insult you? To tell you flaws? To have the right of freedom of speech (although it doesn't exist, there is still a very limited form of it.)

By even posting this you are making it seem like you are better than he is...

Had this been the old forum, I suspect he would have been banned.
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Tree
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Wow. reid I thought only I could piss you off that much.
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Kevin

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Reid get's pissed off by everyone...

Anyways, Daniel, what are you talking about? First you say you hate Elliot, he's a fhucking prick, and now all of a sudden you made him come onto .com?

I high don't believe that. So say what you want. And as for your opinion, well, my opinoin, your wrong.
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Daniel

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I hate him? Lmao, Kevin, you havn't been on the forums in ahwile have you?

I have been in three arguemtns within like the last week, defending Elliot, does that soiund like someone who hates him?
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The-Dj
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To the very core of your being... Your mother fucking Being
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Reid
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Lmao, yeah.

Kevin, you need to get up-to-date.

;D.
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Letha1.
May 10 2007, 05:33 PM
Reid get's pissed off by everyone...

Not me, i don't piss off most people. Im Respectful to those who deserve it:D
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BromiDista / Coactum
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Daniel
May 10 2007, 03:39 PM
A real friend wouldn't just abandon ship, he would help his friend, i know i would.  Elliot listens to me when i talk to him, i asked him to come on the forums, he tried, couldn't get on. I asked him to come back to .com, what's he doing now? Coming on.

To advertise.


As for real friends abandoning ship, here's what its really like for Sam -


Sam, as we all know is seen as "Elliot's sidekick." When Elliot wants something, he uses Sam to get it and hides it under a friendship. When someone attacks Elliot, he makes them go through Sam first. When Elliot finds someone he likes more (example - Perdue) Elliot ditches Sam. When Elliot is finished with Perdue, Elliot comes back and draws Sam back in using the ol' "We've been best mates for years, Sam" line.

I would say Sam knows Elliot best and everything i've thought about Elliot's personality and what he is and isn't capable of was fulfilled. I was right all along. Sam wasn't part of a friendship. He was part of a deceitful lie wrapped in cotton wool, repainted, and disguised as a friendship. The second Elliot decided that Sam was useless, he would have thrown him away.

Sam has been used as Elliot's puppet on purpose (with Elliot being fully conscious when making the decision, he isn't just naturally more bossy) for a long time now. He didn't always, but he does now. Elliot puts no value in people who can't do something for him.

Fact of the matter is, Elliot doesn't have any friends. And no! I didn't mean none of you guys weren't friends with him. Just he isn't friends with you. He isn't friends with anyone. A real friend, like you said, would be loyal, right?


So. Put yourself in Sam's shoes. Is he backstabbing Elliot, or just taking control of himself? Whats wrong with him trying to do that?




Anyway. Sam has said he's going to change, and i'm currently helping him with it. As with anything like this, its best to get the truth. So, anyone who wants to - Say what you really think of Sam and WHY, so I can give him a hand. SAY WHY, THOUGH. Saying he's cool won't help, cause we need to know why. Saying he's a prick won't help, cause we need to know why. You can say whatever you want on this forum, don't be shy. Just say exactly what you think.

I openly declare Elliot is to blame for all of this and every future catastrophe that ever visits our e-borders. I also blame Elliot for 9/11, The Black Death, the Holocaust and some other shit. I reckon Sam just got caught up in it.
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arora
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o.o'' How the hell did I get yelled at there, man? I gotta feeling you just don't like me, and I don't like people who don't like me.

Eh, I suppose what we're trying to say is that when he's been the Sidekick for some long and is JUST liberating himself, it's a tad irriatating. Well, very. x.x''

And don't be surprised if this conflicts with what I said on the first page- Sar is dying, remember? :3
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Sar
May 11 2007, 01:50 AM
o.o'' How the hell did I get yelled at there, man? I gotta feeling you just don't like me, and I don't like people who don't like me.

Eh, I suppose what we're trying to say is that when he's been the Sidekick for some long and is JUST liberating himself, it's a tad irriatating. Well, very. x.x''

And don't be surprised if this conflicts with what I said on the first page- Sar is dying, remember? :3

Uhhhh wait. Who yelled at you? :s



I agree with the middle part by the way. But.. I dunno. I think there'd be a lot more to Sam without Adolf controlling him.
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arora
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No, Lethal or someone on the first page maul'd Sar. But yeah, I think Elliot might be of direct relation to Adolf Hitler... >>''
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Yeahhhh, I just saw it. I dunno, I must be smoking it too then.
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PJ
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I think Sam is truely trying to change. I was talking to him last night and he really was much nicer than when he was was Elly, IMO.
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I understand the perspective of everyone's point of view and opinions and i completely agree with EVERYTHING you've said; however, i have my own things to say aswell...

At the end of the day, Mike summarised the whole situation for me which i thank him for greatly, without his help i wouldn't have been able to take the cover from my eyes. At the end of the day, i have been a major prick to many of you, and in summarisation i can also comprehend what you are trying to say with regards to my actions. I haven't been very forthcoming or warming to many people. I only trusted a small number of people, namely Elliot, Charlie and a few of my close friends on habbo. As of late my opinions have been greatly changed towards my perspective of the pradicament i was involved in.

I can completely understand where you are coming from Daniel, and you Reid, and everyone else; I was a power hungry fool and i shouldn't ditch Elliot just like that, and by making this topic all i have caused is arguements; however, none of you can really grasp a full hold on what has happened between Elliot and I. Alot has happened that i am not happy to talk about and stuff that has been brushed under the carpet. Elliot had me wrapped around his little finger, and I still really don't mind some aspects of him, he always seems to be friendly, but at the end of the day what Bromi says was right.

I have been a power hungry freak towards many of you, and i have thrown many of you aside without really getting to know you, and that was through arrogance and an ego i was beginning to pick up from Elliot; one which i did not want. At the end of the day this announcement is, fundamentally, to make people aware that i am trying to change, and trying to be someone. Mike has helped me and for that i thank him greatly and my respects lie with him, He had always been there from the start of mine and Elliot's era's; however, through my ego i shrugged him off. I just hope that you guys can listen to PJ and Mike and really go over the situation.

Yours truly,
Sam.
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Daniel

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Sar
May 10 2007, 01:59 PM
But still, that means he jumped ship on Elliot. I'm not a very forgiving person, so a couple of paragraphs won't change that until I get into a really good mood after reading SWAS. Then I won't give a damn anymore.

Sar said it best, so for awhile, i guess i wll be a little bit of a bitch to you, but then i'll turn into the loving father that i am.

Listen to PJ? Ga G Ga FGa, Jk. JOKING PJ, I JOKING.

Oh and uh, Welcome Back.
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