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Arabic people and sportsmen of Arabic countries
Topic Started: Jul 21 2009, 08:24 PM (219 Views)
black man
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Are there in your opinion similarities to South Asians (or even East Asians) as opposed to Europeans? If yes, please name them.

Olympian sportsmen from...

Algeria:
http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/7/227307.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/1/227331.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/1/227301.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/2/227332.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/9/227339.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/4/234694.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/6/227206.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/7/227277.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/3/227253.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/0/227240.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/2/227202.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/0/239750.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/6/234696.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/6/227226.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/1/227251.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/4/227324.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/2/227212.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/4/227214.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/3/227283.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/0/227320.shtml
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Bahrain:
http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/1/8003821.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/4/8005254.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/6/8003846.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/9/8003849.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/2/8003862.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/3/8003853.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/9/8003859.shtml
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Egypt:
http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/6/219096.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/4/218974.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/9/218929.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/1/219101.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/8/219028.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/8/218988.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/3/219003.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/7/218977.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/5/218975.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/1/218911.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/3/219033.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/1/218961.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/0/219010.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/1/219011.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/9/219059.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/5/218925.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/9/219029.shtmlhttp://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/9/219029.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/6/218996.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/1/218991.shtml
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Iraq:
http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/6/8004916.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/1/8001531.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/2/8001022.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/1/8001891.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/1/8001901.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/0/8000980.shtml
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Jordan:
http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/7/241477.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/7/8000377.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/3/242993.shtml
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(I probably left out some ethno-cultural groups above. But feel free to add photos of them.)
Edited by black man, Jul 30 2009, 12:23 AM.
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Israeli Arabs AKA Palestinians
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Saudi Arabian
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Some guy named Ahmed, who is a friend of the Saudi Arab next to whom he is standing in the picture above (with a name like Ahmed, he must be at least Muslim)
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An alleged terrorist from Saudi Arabia
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Egyptians in Cairo
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Some darker Egyptians
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Jordanians
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Hey, you've changed the title of this thread. :P Previously, it was just "Arabic people."
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Yes, I wanted to keep the sportsmen in the thread even in case that it turns out that they're not Arabic. "Arabic people" is back in the title, now.

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Kuwait:
http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/7/242987.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/4/236364.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/8/246608.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/6/239556.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/5/231795.shtml
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Lebanon:
http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/9/246769.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/2/206842.shtml
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Libya:
http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/2/219822.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/3/219823.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/3/203973.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/1/203971.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/4/203974.shtml
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Morocco:
http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/1/238241.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/2/238322.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/1/238301.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/6/238296.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/2/243962.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/1/238331.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/0/238260.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/0/238250.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/6/238326.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/7/238307.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/0/238310.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/3/238313.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/3/238303.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/6/238336.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/2/238312.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/8/244968.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/7/238297.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/1/238291.shtml
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Oman:
http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/9/239719.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/3/203903.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/0/239720.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/2/203902.shtml
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Palestine:
http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/9/241329.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/7/236367.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/9/236369.shtml
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Qatar:
http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/2/237902.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/9/237899.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/7/237897.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/9/241739.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/3/8003703.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/7/245677.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/3/8003683.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/1/237901.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/3/237903.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/6/8002826.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/7/8003697.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/2/8003682.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/4/241494.shtml
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Saudi Arabia:
http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/9/245159.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/6/8001556.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/4/8001554.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/1/8001571.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/2/8001562.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/7/8004417.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/8/8001698.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/8/8001568.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/5/243305.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/0/8003790.shtml
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Syria:
http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/0/230160.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/2/230152.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/0/230150.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/9/230149.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/8/230148.shtml
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Tunisia:
http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/3/217543.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/1/217531.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/8/217538.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/1/247471.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/2/217522.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/3/217523.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/8/230078.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/1/217521.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/8/230088.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/7/217507.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/5/244305.shtml
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UA Emirates:
http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/2/244642.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/8/227058.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/7/227057.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/3/227053.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/8/243338.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/2/227052.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/5/227055.shtml
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Yemen:
http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/6/227936.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/9/227929.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/0/227930.shtml
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http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/9/246959.shtml
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(next letter: M)
Edited by black man, Jul 30 2009, 12:28 AM.
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Some averages of selected "teams":

Algeria.
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Egypt.
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Iraq.
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Jordan.
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Kuwait.
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Lebanon.
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Libya.
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Morocco.
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Palestine.
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Syria.
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Tunisia.
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Saudi Arabia. Two versions.
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Curious to know..
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You have probably seen Dienekes' or Racial Reality's version of the average Saudi soccer player somewhere. It has these rather massive, prominent cheekbones, too. In the majority of the cases it's an SSA feature, I suppose.

I'd try to divide the Saudi "team" into three components:
- naturalised athletes from East(?) Africa*
- SSA-mixed-looking Saudis
- Saudis without obvious SSA admixture

*At the moment the site at which the athlete profiles were posted cannot be accessed, it seems to me. At least I can't check the birthplaces, now.
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You have probably seen Dienekes' or Racial Reality's version of the average Saudi soccer player somewhere. It has these rather massive, prominent cheekbones, too. In the majority of the cases it's an SSA feature, I suppose.

I'd try to divide the Saudi "team" into three components:
- naturalised athletes from East(?) Africa*
- SSA-mixed-looking Saudis
- Saudis without obvious SSA admixture

*At the moment the site at which the athlete profiles were posted cannot be accessed, it seems to me. At least I can't check the birthplaces, now.
No, I haven't actually seen it. Keep in mind I call these morphs by "team" and not by real ancestry; whomever happens to be playing for the Saudi team will be included in the morph, regardless of where their (recent) origins may actually lie. Consequently, the nations who used more mercenaries in their athletic teams will appear to diverge quite a bit from whatever the indigenous phenotypical average would likely be.

Better (or just different) samples will likely net better results. That said, I find that the majority of the Maghrebi/North African "teams" of individuals you posted here look rather indigenous to their respective homelands.
Curious to know..
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Tunisia / الجمهورية التونسية : Composites of Athletes

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunisia


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Part I

Samples in the male morphotype.
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Samples used in female morphotype.
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The morphotypes derived of this series.
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Edited by Starbuck, Nov 4 2009, 05:55 PM.
Curious to know..
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Morocco / المملكة المغربية : Composites of Athletes

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morocco


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Part I

Samples used in the morphotype.
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Samples used in the morphotype.
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Morphotypes derived from this series.
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Curious to know..
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Algeria / الجزائر : Composites of Athletes

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algeria


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Samples used in the morphotype.
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Morphotypes derived from this series.
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A lot of people in the North African countries are Berber though.
It has already begun.
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Yes, that's why I wrote "Arabic countries" into the heading. They speak Arabic although their looks tend to be "more indigenous" in the cheekbone area, I suppose.

Btw, Starbuck, of how about the composition of "part II" of your series?
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