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Manchu pictures
Topic Started: Jan 23 2009, 09:09 PM (187 Views)
black man	Jan 23 2009, 09:09 PM Post #1
Liaison Posts: 2,462 Group: supermod Member #48 Joined: July 11, 2005	white-collar workers: Liaoning: Hebei: Beijing: Henan: unknown birthplace: ------------- ethnic, unknown birthplace: ------------ blue-collar workers: martial artist from Beijing: Edited by black man, May 24 2009, 02:19 AM.



ren	Jun 4 2009, 10:06 AM Post #2
Yoda Posts: 2,710 Group: Custodian Member #1 Joined: January 2, 2005	These all look Han Chinese. One thing about ethnic Manchus in China is that they can be 1/4 and less Manchu and still have Manchu as their ethnicity on identity cards. I and my cousins are 1/4 Manchu at best and most if not all of them consider themselves to be Manchu, report it as such to the government, and have Manchu as their ethnicity on identity cards and documents. These seems to be mostly the case with "Manchus". They feel special by being a once-ruling ethnic minority, adn there are also benefits such as being allowed to have more than one child.
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black man	Jun 4 2009, 11:38 AM Post #3
Liaison Posts: 2,462 Group: supermod Member #48 Joined: July 11, 2005	How far to the north did Han (or Sinitic people) get exactly? Just wondering because of haplogroup O in Nivkhs and Amur Tungus. As an outsider, I'd particularly compare those below with Siberians: not sure about this one: are her lips fuller than those of SE Siberians? ...



ren	Jun 5 2009, 05:27 AM Post #4
Yoda Posts: 2,710 Group: Custodian Member #1 Joined: January 2, 2005	200,000 Hebei Han migrated into "Manchuria" in the 3rd century, and subsequent migrations followed, the last of which is the tens of millions between the 18th-20th centuries from which 99% (my own guess) of NE people derived from. Han genes must've dispersed far and wide from the 3rd century. 1, 3, 5 look typical Han to me. 2 looks Korean or other Siberian/"Altaic". 4 looks eastern Siberian?
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black man	Jun 5 2009, 06:18 AM Post #5
Liaison Posts: 2,462 Group: supermod Member #48 Joined: July 11, 2005	ren Jun 5 2009, 05:27 AM 2 looks Korean or other Siberian/"Altaic". 2 is from Evenkia, i.e. probably Evenk or Yakut. Quote: 4 looks eastern Siberian? 4 is Amur Tungus. But I still don't notice the big difference between 3 and 4, apart from the clothes. Quote: 200,000 Hebei Han migrated into "Manchuria" in the 3rd century, and subsequent migrations followed, the last of which is the tens of millions between the 18th-20th centuries from which 99% (my own guess) of NE people derived from. Han genes must've dispersed far and wide from the 3rd century. There is also an "outer" Dongbei (or "Manchuria"): That's what I meant. Han certainly reached it and maybe even more, such as Kamchatka. But the question is whether they left phenotypical traces.



black man	Jun 9 2009, 09:02 AM Post #6
Liaison Posts: 2,462 Group: supermod Member #48 Joined: July 11, 2005	ren Jun 4 2009, 10:06 AM These all look Han Chinese. One thing about ethnic Manchus in China is that they can be 1/4 and less Manchu and still have Manchu as their ethnicity on identity cards. I and my cousins are 1/4 Manchu at best and most if not all of them consider themselves to be Manchu, report it as such to the government, and have Manchu as their ethnicity on identity cards and documents. These seems to be mostly the case with "Manchus". They feel special by being a once-ruling ethnic minority, adn there are also benefits such as being allowed to have more than one child. Are they given long names like "Rijigawa?"



ren	Jun 9 2009, 10:01 AM Post #7
Yoda Posts: 2,710 Group: Custodian Member #1 Joined: January 2, 2005	Most have Han surnames.. The only case I know of where they still keep the Manchu surname is the Aisingioro imperial clan. update 2009-10-5 There is an old lady who speaks Manchu (a dead language basically) in a Manchu-speaking village in Heilongjiang, bordering Russia. She has got to be full Manchu. http://www.manchus.cn/zhuanti/ilanboo/index.html Edited by ren, Oct 5 2009, 07:22 AM.
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