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Famous Chinese Mongols...
Topic Started: Apr 12 2007, 12:53 AM (544 Views)
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Does she speak Mongolian or Chinese or both and what's her name.
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Apr 12 2007, 08:26 AM
Does she speak Mongolian or Chinese or both and what's her name.

Both, and I don't know her name.
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Apr 18 2007, 06:09 PM
Both, and I don't know her name.

I've had this idea for some time now.Normally we type a name and then click on the images option to look for images of that individual on a search engine.

Would it be possible/make sense to have a reverse pic search option on search engines on the net.

Like in this case we have a pic but don't have much information regarding the lady in the pic.So we open our search engine,feed the pic and would get information regarding the pic.

Feel free to exploit this idea commercially and do pass me 10% as royalty incase you are able to make any profits.
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Urnaa, if i don't missed
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Her ancestors were Chingis Khan's standard-bearers.

http://www.arba7muz.ru/pressa.htm
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Welcome, temka! How did I miss your presence on here? 5 posts you've posted and yet I have no memory of you! Some periods I just don't bother to come here I guess.

Another Chinese Mongol, an actress, Siqingaowa (in Mandarinized pronounciation).
http://image.baidu.com/i?tn=baiduimage&ct=...%D9%B8%DF%CD%DE
A rather beautiful woman with Mongolian facial proportions.
A picture of her in younger years:
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Mengke Bateer (ethnic Mongol)

One of the Chinese players in NBA.
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Bao Xishun of Inner Mongolia, world's tallest man, who though has a Han name, according to news media is ethnic Mongol.
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It seems that long faces have something to do with over-growth..
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Nov 10 2007, 03:07 PM
Another Chinese Mongol, an actress, Siqingaowa (in Mandarinized pronounciation).
http://image.baidu.com/i?tn=baiduimage&ct=...%D9%B8%DF%CD%DE
A rather beautiful woman with Mongolian facial proportions.
A picture of her in younger years:
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She looks like women in the region of the Monguor (Tu), Santa (Dongxiang) and Baonan Mongolic peoples. The three frontal pictures I have from Ordos Mongolian women imply that narrow faces are common among them, too. Barguts and/or Buryats of China were reported to be narrow-faced. But I don't have any pictures to check.

The Buryats in Russia are known to be broad-faced. And the Barguts are not only in their neighbourship but also linguistically related to them. So I'd guess that she's Ordos Mongol. What is her subethnic group?
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Must likely Chahar, as most Inner Mongolians are. I disagree that she is narrow-faced, just long-faced.
I have a picture of a Korean woman who looks like her, next to Yi women, and it's clear the Yi were narrow-faced while the Korean female was long, broad-faced.
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Urna Chahar-Tugchi from Ordos district (no clue whether she belongs to Ordos or Chahar Mongols or has ancestors from both):

http://www.urna.com/urna_site2008/index_press.htm#photo
http://www.avantart.com/music/urna.htm

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This writer seems to be a Chahar (googled with "察哈尔"):
http://info.beifabook.com/Writer/View.aspx?WriterId=3007
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Here are some other photos of Urna Chahar-Tugchi:
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In my opinion, Urna lacks the peculiarly Korean-ish look that most Mongols (in Outer Mongolia?) have. I think she looks more like a typical Northern Han or Tibetan, and sort of similar to Gong Li at some angles. (I think Gong Li was born in Shenyang, Liaoning, and raised in Jinan, Shandong.) I have also seen some Manchus who look similar to Urna.

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About Urna:

Urna Chahar-Tugchi was born into a family of livestock farmers in the grasslands of the Ordos district in the Southwest region of Inner Mongolia. Today Urna is regarded as one of the most outstanding female vocalists of Asia. Based in Bavaria, Germany, Urna continues to carry the spirit of her homeland in her music as she performs around the world.

Urna出生于内蒙古西南部Ordos地区草原的牧民家庭,如今她已经是亚洲最杰出的女声之一。在德国巴伐利亚,Urna继续着她的事业,将故乡的精神通过音乐呈现给全世界。

"Southwest region of Inner Mongolia" should be pretty close to the ancient territories of Tibetans and Hans.

A photo labeled only as "Inner Mongolian people":
http://www.flickr.com/photos/venture160/796703876/
These folks seem to have fairly broad nasal roots.

However, when I think of "Mongolians," I usually think of something more like these people:
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I think a lot of wjat makes her less "Mongol" are her "double eyelids".. otherwise her facial proportions are simply not extremely Mongol but quite common.
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I think a lot of wjat makes her less "Mongol" are her "double eyelids".. otherwise her facial proportions are simply not extremely Mongol but quite common.
Yes, I'm sure her eyelids are a large part of the reason, but she just doesn't look particularly Mongolian to me. In fact, if someone were to show me all these photos of her out of the blue, without any indication of her identity, I think I would more likely have guessed that she was Han, Manchu, or Tibetan than Mongol.

Almost all Mongols I have known or seen have had extremely broad midfacial regions (or perhaps I should say "horizontally flaring malars/zygomas" in anthropological terminology) in addition to "single eyelids" and extreme chubbiness (perhaps this is called "a high subcutaneous fat ratio"), and I think they also have tended to have weak chins.
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