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black man	Dec 22 2007, 11:56 PM
Liaison Posts: 2,463 Group: supermod Member #48 Joined: July 11, 2005	ren Dec 22 2007, 10:00 PM Yeah, but relatively and practically speaking, that would make Korean mid-facial region rather high/long, which gets back to the original point about whether Korean noses are lepto or broad/short on average. Quote: So, yes, you're right in the American context but I'm not sure as for the world-wide context. When we assume that the nasal sexual dimorphism of Korean Americans can be equated with that of Turkish (I'll take the data from Arslan et al. 2007* for the comparison), we might add about 3,5mm to the Korean American female nose in order to get the height of the Korean American male one. Then the latter would be moderately high (about 55mm) and comparable to e.g. SE Siberian (Nivkh), Indonesian (Minangkabau, Sumbanese and Timorese) and Cantonese nasal heights. I'm not convinced regarding Cantonese nasal heights. The average Catonese from my impression appear to have shorter, broader noses, but that's another topic, and perhaps you can bring in relevant information. Having not yet collected enough data from recent studies, I today prefer reference to ranges of averages rather than average values alone. Sometimes these ranges of averages reach into the clearly high-faced (high-nosed) part of the scale, sometimes not. As for Koreans, the range of averages is from 49 to 52mm (nasal heights of women according to Kim 2003 and Choe 2004), from 48 to 53mm (nasal heights of men according to Ueda 1942/Kohama 1940 and several authors whose results were apparently pooled in 1934), from 110 to 119mm (morphol. facial heights of women according to Kim 2003 and Choe 2004) and from 117 to 124mm (morphol. facial heights of women according to Shirokogorov 1923 and several authors whose results were apparently pooled in 1934). This would IMO indicate that... - averaged female Korean nasal heights vary from "moderately low" to "intermediate". - averaged male Korean nasal heights vary from "moderately low" to "moderately high". - averaged female Korean morph. facial heights vary from definitely low to intermediate. - averaged male Korean morph. facial heights vary from moderately low to moderately high. When we ignore the old samples, only the intermediate averages for both sexes and low averages for women remain. Further, there is a recent study by Han et al. (2004) according to which 26 Korean men and 24 Korean women are put into three categories: - "small" dimensions: 46 and 109mm on average. - "medium" dimensions: 50 and 117mm on average. - "large" dimensions: 54 and 125mm on average. Furthermore, they mention who ended up where in the following categorisation... - 98,5-107,5mm (very low-faced): 6 women - 107,5-116,5mm (very low-faced to low-faced): 16 women, 6 men - 116,5-125,5mm (moderately low to moderately large facial height): 2 women, 14 men. - 125,5-134,5mm (large to very large facial height): 6 men. ^ IMO one shouldn't put too much trust in the more recent studies just because they are new. Actually, the studies by Kim et al. and Han et al. were made as a preparation for the design of respirator masks, not for interethnic comparisons of samples representative for (sub)populations. ----------- I'd like to tell more about southern Han anthropometric values but in fact I couldn't get much data so far. So far, I came across high-faced Cantonese, high-faced Hokkienese, very large-faced Singaporean and absolutely narrow-faced Taiwanese averaged samples which made me wonder what was measured. Unfortunately, most authors only measured either northern or southern Han (and almost no Western source mentions central Han data). Quote: I've found a study with the averaged faces of Thais, Sino Thai, and Korean females, based on 50 individuals each: http://z6.invisionfree.com/man/index.php?showtopic=1738 It should be interesting. Decide for yourselves. Can't access the page. That must be in a subforum where I've no access to.


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