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Does religion deserve respect?
Topic Started: Nov 14 2008, 05:58 AM (1,785 Views)
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So the other day I was browsing about on Youtube, looking at videos on random religious issues (seeing as I have some absurd fascination on the subject) and I got this thought: Does religion really deserve all the respect it gets?

From an atheistic standpoint, I see a lot of beliefs as just plain silly. I forgot who said it first, but "The delusion of one man is insanity, the delusion of millions is faith," or something to that effect. Christianity has it's flaws and it's a fun target for a lot of people to poke fun at, but it's not just them that bothers me. Islam, in particular, is a rather volatile cult (yeah, I say cult, they're nuts.) and so many folks in it are dangerous. Did anyone know that in Britain, they're allowing the use of Sharia Law in courts for muslims? In a religion that encourages the negligence of innocent women, one can now see a lot of ladies being pushed to go into those courts with the full weight of the british legal system and Islam coming down on them.

I'm rambling a bit now, given that I've slept poorly these past few days, but I'll just leave my views at that. Whether it's Christianity, Islam, or any other faith- Do you think that religion really deserves all the respect people give it these days?
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People give it respect these days?
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No it does not deserve respect
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Posted Image, Islam is not a cult, it's a religion. just cause it is violent doesn't mean it is a cult.

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No it does not.
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Yes, can't really put it in words right now. Religion is very complicated for my little mind to understand. But believe it or not religion has done many great things for the world and you can't hate it just because of the retards who have warped minds. If so, I guess vidya gams are horrible because all these school shooters play them. LEts bann games.
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After the video, with the female often further enraged or upset, the male will walk onto the set; he will usually be booed loudly by the audience. The male will typically react in a "you-don't-know-me" mannerism, showing confidence that he is not the father. A picture of the baby juxtaposed with a picture of the male will appear on a video screen, to which the female will usually say how she thinks they look similar, and the male will say how they do not look alike at all. One common occurrence is that each person will claim that he or she is beyond 100% (often 200% or 1,000%) sure that the man is/is not the father, with figures sometimes reaching as high as 1,000,000% (the highest this has it gone is "infinity-plus 1 percent", in the show aired on November 20, 2007 when a participant named Natasha (surname unknown) claimed to be "infinity-plus 1" percent sure that a man was the father of her child (The DNA test then proceeded to prove her wrong) [3]).

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Madoff is now serving a 150-year federal prison sentence. He spends his nights in the lower bunk of a cell he shares with a drug offender, eats pizza cooked by a child molester

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Nov 15 2008, 12:13 AM
Yes, can't really put it in words right now. Religion is very complicated for my little mind to understand. But believe it or not religion has done many great things for the world and you can't hate it just because of the retards who have warped minds. If so, I guess vidya gams are horrible because all these school shooters play them. LEts bann games.
what was the last great thing religion has done for us
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you know what
i think i'm just gonna step out of this one
nobody likes a religious debate
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give people with no reason to live a reason to live (serving god)
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After the video, with the female often further enraged or upset, the male will walk onto the set; he will usually be booed loudly by the audience. The male will typically react in a "you-don't-know-me" mannerism, showing confidence that he is not the father. A picture of the baby juxtaposed with a picture of the male will appear on a video screen, to which the female will usually say how she thinks they look similar, and the male will say how they do not look alike at all. One common occurrence is that each person will claim that he or she is beyond 100% (often 200% or 1,000%) sure that the man is/is not the father, with figures sometimes reaching as high as 1,000,000% (the highest this has it gone is "infinity-plus 1 percent", in the show aired on November 20, 2007 when a participant named Natasha (surname unknown) claimed to be "infinity-plus 1" percent sure that a man was the father of her child (The DNA test then proceeded to prove her wrong) [3]).

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Madoff is now serving a 150-year federal prison sentence. He spends his nights in the lower bunk of a cell he shares with a drug offender, eats pizza cooked by a child molester

THAT BASTARD

Tiger:Sent: 03:32 PM 08/29/2009:
I have no idea. I would love to have the ability to make you sore
Tiger:Sent: 03:35 PM 08/29/2009:
In a week. I will try to wear you out
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Nov 15 2008, 01:39 AM
give people with no reason to live a reason to live (serving god)
"Two hands working can do more than a million together in prayer."
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i don't want to hear about your god damn masturbation techniques, we're discussing religion you sick fuck.

how do you expect people work if they're too depressed to even get out of bed?
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After the video, with the female often further enraged or upset, the male will walk onto the set; he will usually be booed loudly by the audience. The male will typically react in a "you-don't-know-me" mannerism, showing confidence that he is not the father. A picture of the baby juxtaposed with a picture of the male will appear on a video screen, to which the female will usually say how she thinks they look similar, and the male will say how they do not look alike at all. One common occurrence is that each person will claim that he or she is beyond 100% (often 200% or 1,000%) sure that the man is/is not the father, with figures sometimes reaching as high as 1,000,000% (the highest this has it gone is "infinity-plus 1 percent", in the show aired on November 20, 2007 when a participant named Natasha (surname unknown) claimed to be "infinity-plus 1" percent sure that a man was the father of her child (The DNA test then proceeded to prove her wrong) [3]).

yahoo.com
 
Madoff is now serving a 150-year federal prison sentence. He spends his nights in the lower bunk of a cell he shares with a drug offender, eats pizza cooked by a child molester

THAT BASTARD

Tiger:Sent: 03:32 PM 08/29/2009:
I have no idea. I would love to have the ability to make you sore
Tiger:Sent: 03:35 PM 08/29/2009:
In a week. I will try to wear you out
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Brian I'm more on your side than Tim's, but you're kind of heading in the wrong direction. Someone who is depressed enough to not even get out of bed isn't going to be cured by Jesus alone. For Tim, it's not a question of either athiest hard work or religious uselessness. Both you guys are comparing one extreme to another, which is a bad way to debate.

Knowing that you're doing the work of God can certainly be a great motivator, but it won't automatically make a miserable man happy on its own. Nor is praying the only activity fueled by religion out there. Your quote, Tim, seems to be more against Mass Prayer replacing Hard Work in the religious community than religion itself. Which is partially true and partially not, depending on your area. Local churches here are pretty active.
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Where I live, religion is a little more relaxed and looked more as a club or social gathering rather than a following. The church I go to (or went to, I'm not big on church right now) has done so much work for the community - providing a homeless shelter, feeding the people in need, sending deacons to the elderly, widowed, and handicapped and giving them flowers and support, and of course providing a good message to live your day by. We don't manipulate people with fear or emotion; when our church gives sermons we usually discuss something in the bible or a current event, and talk about ways we can best go about our lives. We don't criticize people, or the government in sermons, our chuch just discusses ways we should best live our lives and try to find a purpose in life.

It might sound smug or something but I wish every church were like that. It would provide a place to worship for the pious and a place to find meaning in life for the frustrated. Make the ultimate goal for churches not faith but instead bettering people's lives.

I don't think church has done anything specific towards our society as a whole, but to those who use it in the right way, and with preachers who preach in the right way, it can really support someone in life.
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Most churches are like that, actually.
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most people know I used to go to catholic church every week, sometimes twice. i lol'd about a year ago when I found out the 'community donations' the church accepted went about 5 percent to those in need, 95 percent to the church.
people shouldnt need a reason to help others. that is what is wrong with religion. if you NEED a religion to tell you not to be an immoral prick, you probably are one.
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We can argue about the motivation people "should" have, but having religion as a motivation to do good things can't possibly be considered bad.
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It's funny how religious debates always tend to revolve around christianity and the church. They might do quite a few good things, but what about other religions? The biggest negative one I can think of would be Islam, with a lot of their beliefs being discriminatory to women and rather unaccepting of other faiths. To a lesser extent, a lot of fundamentalist groups in parts of the US aren't too great either.
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Holy fucking shit are people prejudiced as fuck against Islam. How many Muslims do you even actually know? And what bad things have you heard of them doing? I know a couple and they seem like perfectly good people.
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Holy fucking shit are people prejudiced as fuck against Islam. How many Muslims do you even actually know? And what bad things have you heard of them doing? I know a couple and they seem like perfectly good people.
tal is right. dont judge christians based on the westboro baptist church, pro life nutjobs, and people killing in the name of saint michael, and to the same degree dont judge islam based on a few terrorists going under the title
no, the quran isn't any more violent than the bible
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Odd question. I suppose you should only really respect a religion if you follow it; You should respect PEOPLE, and respect the fact they have beliefs, even if you dont respect the beliefs themselves. Take atheism for example. Batshit insanity that claims it is not, in fact, a religion, when it clearly is. I have no respect for that, but people can believe what they like.
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