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| HakktHazard | Nov 6 2008, 03:22 AM Post #21 |
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First, it wasn't my analogy, and it was more of a joke than anything. Second, the fetus is indeed not a human being, fine, but it is alive. But, abortion is taking away that life, the fetus itself having no say because its not sentient. In that way, you are denying the right for the fetus to be born. Two, by having sexual intercourse, you are accepting possible risks resulting from it, including the risk of pregnancy. Kids and humans in general may be drawn to sex naturally, as human instinct. It is our instinct to reproduce. However, if we are indeed sentient, we should be able to see the consequences of our actions and need not do everything mindlessly according to instinct. As for education, we may be behind other first world countries in some ways, but to say that our education system is lacking far behind those of other first world countries is an over statement. People here can get prosperous jobs and can overall make a good living here just as in other first world countries. |
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| Deleted User | Nov 6 2008, 06:50 PM Post #22 |
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There are roughly 120 abortions every hour. Is it affecting you right now? Feel any different? No? Aborting fetuses does not affect you. Let the "parents" decide instead of being a fetus lover. |
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| Deleted User | Nov 6 2008, 11:58 PM Post #23 |
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theres many rapes every hour does it affect you? theres many deaths every hour does it affect you? that argument is bullshit |
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| 房/-\沃 | Nov 7 2008, 12:54 AM Post #24 |
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An argument from someone who isn't a parent, or will soon be a parent, is essentially just making it out of thin air without any actual experience on the subject. That said, I'm lean pro-life on this one. It's interesting whenever people bring up rape, considering how few abortions actually come from rape. |
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| Deleted User | Nov 7 2008, 01:45 AM Post #25 |
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There's a difference between rapings and murders than abortion. Abortion /=/ murder |
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| 房/-\沃 | Nov 7 2008, 02:07 AM Post #26 |
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Do you know anybody that has experienced either an abortion or a miscarriage? |
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| Deleted User | Nov 7 2008, 02:45 AM Post #27 |
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My mom had like 6 or 7 miscarries. I don't know why so much. |
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| 房/-\沃 | Nov 7 2008, 04:29 AM Post #28 |
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You know, one of those could have been you. Better yet, your mom could have chosen to make you one of those through abortion. |
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| Deleted User | Nov 7 2008, 05:19 AM Post #29 |
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It could of been but it was not. |
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| Deleted User | Nov 7 2008, 05:24 AM Post #30 |
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one of them could have been hitler or it could have been bach could have been charles manson or it could have been obama or it could have been jeffery dalmer |
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| 房/-\沃 | Nov 7 2008, 08:20 PM Post #31 |
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Not really, because none of the things that make those people special have to do with their birth, but their life experiences. A baby is just a blank slate. The primary thing to focus on is not "you could have been miscarried", but "you could have been chosen to be aborted." |
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| MARBLES | Nov 8 2008, 01:48 AM Post #32 |
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I'm probably going to stay out of this one. I can't decide if abortion is morally right or not. I think it should be legal though, I mean I think women can decide for themselves whether or not abortion is the right way to go for themselves. If someone were to ask me if she should get an abortion because she's not ready to have a child I'd probably say no. You have some months to get ready, there are plenty of ways TO get ready, and plenty of ways to get support. Especially if you're making connections with the community financial problems can be handled. If someone were to ask me if she should get an abortion because she's living in terrible conditions, has no job, and no friendly connections, then I'd be more willing to agree with her. I wouldn't flat out say yes though, I don't know how to touch this one.
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| 房/-\沃 | Nov 8 2008, 11:52 PM Post #33 |
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People can do what they want to themselves, I think most of us can agree on that. But abortion is affecting another party: the child. Terrible living conditions and all that jazz as a justification is just bullshit. Kids grow up in poor living conditions all the time, do you ever look at them and think "gosh, it would be better if they were dead"? Just because you're born into poor conditions doesn't mean your life is going to suck, and even if your parents are unable to take care of you, being sent off to a relative or to child services is an option. Yeah, that can be a shitty experience for the kid, but it's certainly better than not living at all. |
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| MARBLES | Nov 10 2008, 05:09 AM Post #34 |
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It certianly is and that's why I wouldn't be able to make that decision for someone else. I mean think of suffering people in africa, should we just kill them all? Don't need to vaccinate and educate them anymore. I really don't have experience this subject and I'm forming my opinion by trying to think potential scenarios. It's hard It's funny because you're making a much more educated prolife stance than most prolifers I hear about. You know, people who think they know someone's stance on every single issue based on their stance on abortion. |
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| Iron Angel | Nov 18 2008, 04:59 AM Post #35 |
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We should ask the fetus. |
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| Brian | Nov 18 2008, 09:44 PM Post #36 |
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fetus says "get me out of here" *kicks tummy* I THINK WE HAVE A RIGHT TO LISTEN TO HIM. |
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| Deleted User | Nov 20 2008, 05:55 PM Post #37 |
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Fetus says nothing. That means we should destroy him! No but seriously, I don't really find aborting fetuses all that moral, but it's not for me to decide. I don't really think it's a human, but I don't think its 100% moral. I think it's up to the mother. |
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| 房/-\沃 | Apr 4 2009, 09:23 PM Post #38 |
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Is it just up to the mother? Shouldn't the father have a say as well? But even though I'm against abortion, if they're kept legal they can be done properly and without major risk to the mother. |
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