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Topic Started: May 8 2007, 03:07 AM (580 Views)
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Isn't Punk about 17 and Ak about 13? In all consideration, Punk's almost an adult and well... yeah, that's not really the topic, I suppose.

I don't agree with the account being deleted either. But, from the last few posts I saw from Akakios, he was rather rude and such. Don't remember anything in particular. But, I just remember coming on and wondering, "Why is Akakios' account deleted."

After reading a few posts, I thought, "Oh... maybe that's why."

I really think he could have intelligent, meaningful, or just amusing posts. But, I think he should clean up his act a little. I don't think flamewars are the things we should be pushing for in these forums, and far from Kamain's decree.

Also, I highly agree with Punk's point that members like Akakios are what drives out members. He can be funny, but I really think his rude behavior helps drive out newer members. Just a thought, ya know. Heck, I can even remember Tal and Akakios, picking on a new member, calling him emo. I believe his name was DBAF or something. I don't think I see him around much anymore, and there could be good cause.

If this forum is going to be comprised of flamewars, it's not going to prosper. Who wants to come to a place where there's just a bunch of drama and bickering?

In the end, I think Akakios should come back. A permanent ban and account deletion was over doing it. However, perhaps he should be on post review. I know Tal doesn't like that concept, but it may be very helpful, at least until Akakios can learn to control what he says.
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Sounds like verafor's got some sand in his vagina.
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May 8 2007, 10:29 PM
Sounds like verafor's got some sand in his vagina.

thanks ;)

ooooo can't think of a comeback now huh?
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MisterMurder hasn't really flamed anyone in this forum with the exception of Akakios and PV. I'll go have a talk with him about that. :)
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May 8 2007, 10:29 PM
Sounds like verafor's got some sand in his vagina.

Funny how posts like these slip by in a topic like this.
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Tim
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I don't see why we really have a need to ban anyone other than PV thse days. For the most part, we're all friends or acquaintances here, or in other words, the forum is more like a big house than a small city. Of course people in the same house argue at times, but really, who cares? Akakios shouldn't have been banned. -_-
"If I've ever been exceptionally rude to any of you, I am sorry." -Tim, May 9th 2005-February 5th 2008

Screw that. O_o
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CHUTNEY IS A TASTEY SAUCE YOU CAN HAVE IT WITH YOUR POPADOM OR WITH YOUR MAIN COURSE!!
It's teh foxxorz!
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CHUTNEY IS A TASTEY SAUCE YOU CAN HAVE IT WITH YOUR POPADOM OR WITH YOUR MAIN COURSE!!
Hmm?
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Akakios has incurded a major record of bad behaior.. in a professional forum he would have been gone a long time ago
In a professional forum you have a constant influx of members so you can hold each one to a higher standard.

Punkid89
May 8 2007, 05:10 PM
Do you see any flame wars getting started after this ban? I sure don't. (Besides this topic...not really a flame war going on as far as I can tell but yeah...) I also don't see any immature name calling or unfunny insults being thrown around...

I didn't see any major flame wars BEFORE the ban either. Just minor flames. And he still didn't do anything big recently.

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Now in my opinion, I think with his account gone for good, this site can actually grow. It was people of his ilk that loved to scare new members away. I may be outdated but look what happened to Firefly_Jess, look what happened to PrivateMicheal, look what happened to Korgone, blah blah blah more stuff I don't actually know crap about
You really have no idea what your talking about do you? The reason why this forum doesn't grow is because we no longer have any appeal to people. Our RPG Making skills are minimal, and other than that we just... talk... Yeah, I wonder why new members aren't flooding in <_< Maybe if you had been year back when 90% of the current members (alc included) joined you would know why the forum used to grow and why it doesn't any more. In response to all those names you threw out:
Firefly_Jess- That was 90% PV and you know it
PrivateMicheal- He had a fight with Nick IRL so try getting your facts next time
Korgone- Are you kidding me? The form as a whole is responsible for what happened to his, don't try and shift all the blame to alc.
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Now in my opinion, I think with his account gone for good, this site can actually grow. It was people of his ilk that loved to scare new members away. I may be outdated but look what happened to Firefly_Jess, look what happened to PrivateMicheal, look what happened to Korgone, and look at what was about to happen to Necro). PV told her (Firefly_Jess) to go cut herself...she left, she eventually returned...but left. Akakios made fun of his (PrivateMicheal) name but his actual name was spelled Micheal and this wasn't necessary and I wouldn't be surprised if he left because of that. Look what happened to DBAF and how he was made fun of by Akakios and PV (I'm unsure if he left because of this or not). Look what happened to Korgone. It was because of the immaturity of certain members (Akakios, very likely) that he (Korgone) left. Look at what was going to happen to Necro). Akakios was constantly flaming him and telling him to go get a tampon and he was about to take his leave...possibly forever. You see what happened in the above? Members were SCARED away from this place thanks to those two!

Read the bold.
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I saw no consensis for the deletion of Akakios' account in the Senate. The vote was on banning him. I voted yes, but the entire thing was vague. I thought banning would mean...say 1 week to 1 month. The only "decision" I saw was a small discussion between speedpaws and punkid about deleting his account.

To wrap things up: NO FINAL DECISION HAD BEEN MADE TO DELETE HIS ACCOUNT. It was either luke strife or kamain that actually did it...but I'd but my bet on kamain, since he's a terrible admin.

Punkid, in my eyes you're just a n00b that whined his way into becoming a moderator. You take the job too seriously, and I would definetly suggest that you demote yourself. Heck, the senate said that you SHOULD'NT become a moderator, and that we didn't need any more...but you became one anyway. You have no idea about the history of the site, etc. and deleting Akakios' account will simply make our forum...one member short.
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The Micheal incident goes as such: I fail to keep my RP up to date, he has nothing else to do on here so he lost interest in kw. So, no one gets the blame for Micheal's departure except me (the fight was unrelated!)
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This is fun. Despite the fact I am terribly ill and was puking my guts out at 4am, 8am, then 11am yesterday (mm, can you see it, the chunky carrots?).

Yeah anyway.

Have fun working it out. I'll be... here. When or if you need me.

Perhaps me deleting him was a bit too outrageous. Ah well. It makes no odds to me. I see a person who has two pages of warns. I see a person who has had too many chances. Wanting him back just because he supposedly makes things "interesting" is dumb (most of his posts are nonsense anyway).

Yes yes, he does, on rare occasion, have his moments. But it's like that credit card advert where "on one side of the world a very clever thing happens, and then an extremely dumb thing on the other side happens, and so the world is at balance once again", he'll make a good post or three, even a good topic, a good laugh. Then later on in the week he'll poo it all into the toilet by breaking the rules by some silliness.

As I said. It makes no odds to me. If it makes you all happy I even wrote down how many posts he had before I clicked delete! 12146.

Wond-awful.
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Geez, everybody's going around pointing the finger at the wrong person. :P

PUNK DID IT!!! NO, KAMAIN DID IT!!! NONONO, DRAKENZ DIDZ ITZ!!!

There, Luke made it all better by keeping a record of his posts. Granted, 5000 of his posts were, "K." but that's another story.

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I didn't see any major flame wars BEFORE the ban either. Just minor flames. And he still didn't do anything big recently.


Wasn't it stated that it wasn't anything major, just accumulation of consistently bad behavior? :huh:

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You really have no idea what your talking about do you? The reason why this forum doesn't grow is because we no longer have any appeal to people. Our RPG Making skills are minimal, and other than that we just... talk... Yeah, I wonder why new members aren't flooding in  Maybe if you had been year back when 90% of the current members (alc included) joined you would know why the forum used to grow and why it doesn't any more. In response to all those names you threw out:


Why didn't you adress the name I threw out. :(

Agreed, the forums probably don't prosper a whole lot due to a lack of RPG Making. And, Akakios wasn't the only influence of bad behavior towards newer members. But, hey, still wouldn't hurt for him to clean up his act a little. My brother mentioned before how Akakios was rather rude to him when he returned. Chuck managed the situation rather well, though. ^_^
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YOU POST TOO darn FAST.

God, more people to pwn so Verafor can tell me how I pwn.

Punk:

I think you're misusing the scientific method here. There weren't any flame wars BEFORE he got deleted either, were there? And as you said yourself this topic IS already pretty much a flame war. I have people pming and msning me all day about how they hate it all and ajkdf and whatnot. You can't say: 'Hm, there hasn't been a flamewar in a while! Maybe if I ban Alc I can decrease it from 0 flame wars to -1 flame wars!'
Excuse me, Punk? What the hades is the DIFFERENCE? Just because our flames are more 'intelligent' doesn't make them less valid as flames. Would you rather that Alc said 'Oh ho ha, tampon is a rather funny word as it refers to an object that is humourously placed inside a woman's vagina', instead of 'lol tampon'? You know that quote in IA's sig of me? If I say that, and Alc says 'ur mom', who would you be quicker to warn? We're both joking, aren't we? But because Alc is more 'immature', you jump on him, and not me.
Something you don't realize about Alc's 'chances', Punk, is that he didn't get 'chances'. You think he was just let off the hook for all that crap? No. He was PUNISHED for it and he SERVED his punishment for it. He didn't flame and then Kamain went 'well i'll let this slide', he flamed and he got warned and then got banned.
But when was his last big thing, really, eh? The 'out of the blue' thing comes up again.

And I said 'like', which means not exactly, but similar.

What the hades is this about Teaching him stuff? And now Luke is MSNing me about how he wants to 'rebuild' Alc. Do you guys even TALK to Alc at ALL? He's not going 'omg i is sorry, rebuild me i wanna come back just undelete me!', all he is is pissed off. I know because he talks to me almost every day.

Well, you can't say something and then say 'o it only applies to THESE terms, not those lol'.

Well, I'm not going to argue with the fact that they did, in fact, go away because of them, I AM going to argue against growth. There have been periods when Alc has been inactive, and there was no growth at all then. In fact, at those times the forum was often described as 'boring'.
Remember GS?
All the 'bad' members went to GS, like FF and Me and IA who everyone hated at the time. All the 'good' people like Verafor and Korgone and whatnot stayed at Kamain. Turnout? Kamain almost died.

Verafor, love you.

Jassi I mostly agree with your post except for one thing: obviously every time Alc has been punished it hasn't helped any, so why would continuously punishing him more be better? I mean look at what happened when Alc got deleted:

Everybody, basically, is just really pissed off at eachother. And Alc isn't any better.

If you really want to change Alc, you guys are going to have to try to do something else, not just continuously ban him.


Necro flamed again

Verafor didn't yey


Pffffft yeah right Punkid. How about we have someone who isn't his friend check him out, eh? After all, he doesn't have too many posts, and you may find that a good percentage are rather flamey.

Yey Dread Love ya too.

Flamerfox makes a good point.


MSJ basically said everything I said in my post too lol.

Punk, saying 'i may be outdated' doesn't make your point less wrong.

Nubbins, from what Luke has told me on MSN, it was Kamain's idea and he explained to Luke about it and whatnot, while Luke actually did it.



AAAH LUKE YOU FINALLY POSTED! HOORAY MAN! Can't say I have much of a comment for it, however.

Even as an accumulation of behavior, Jassi, Alc still hasn't done very much recently and it was all still very out of the blue. His recent behavior has been better than, say, his behavior a few months ago. I mean I don't think he has even done a regular flame in a good while, at least nothing that apparently is left to slide like the things Necro's posted in here.


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we are taking a vote in the senate about akakios future.
the fact remains that he does cause significant issues.
the best way to resolve that is by simply leaving him baned.
I like the guy to. but the world must have rules to live by
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