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| Topic Started: Apr 13 2008, 04:30 PM (72 Views) | |
| Mr. Storm | Apr 13 2008, 04:30 PM Post #1 |
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 Image should say enough. Thoughts? I personally don't see violence as something to be censored unless it's uber graphic and your dealing with really young kids. So I might be offended by severed heads. No problem with a sex scene as long as it isn't designed to cause arousal. But if the kid doesn't know what sex is, I wouldn't want him/her watching it. I honestly don't care about language at all. Monsters Inc. could have F-Bombs and I wouldn't have a problem. Shouldn't be censored, seeing as how it's just kissing. Might wanna discuss homosexuality with your kid though beforehand. So... in my order of offensiveness! 1. Severed Heads 2. Sex 3. Guys Kissing 4. Language |
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| Naoko | Apr 13 2008, 05:29 PM Post #2 |
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I agree with your order of offensiveness. To be honest, I think this is one of the problems of American media. People would rather see (and rather their kids see) fighting and violence than two people in love. (Err, HOPEFULLY in love. I'd rather see/kids see a sex scene of a loving couple than a sex scene of a stupid one-night stand.) I've heard that in other countries (especially Japan and in lots of places in Europe, don't know about Britain though) that sex in media is more acceptable than violence in media. That's kind of the way it should be. Really, I think this is stupid. I don't understand why anyone would be more offended by sex than violence. Oh, but I even saw a South Park episode about this recently - the kids bought weapons, and one of them got a shuriken in his eye. But in the end, Cartman was pretending he had the power of invisibility, and was completely naked. Both the kid with the shuriken and Cartman got in a place that was being filmed. Nobody cared about the poor beat-up kid, but everyone got upset over the nudity. It really fits in with the point of what you posted. And I'm sure a lot of people don't like South Park (I only started watching it recently really) but the point is, South Park has A LOT of satire in it, and makes fun of things in society. This is one of them. Sorries if you can't relate. |
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| Mr. Storm | Apr 14 2008, 05:48 AM Post #3 |
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Yeah, I saw that episode and it put the situation very well. Stone and Parker are genius satirists. Granted, I don't appreciate a few of their bits, but you have to take the good with the bad. Anyway, while I understand the sentiment, I think both violence and sex should be treated with kid gloves equally. Using Japan as an example, that is a degree of acceptance with sex you should probably stay away from. There's an entire culture there that's clearly evident, and pornography is really easy to get/see. On the other hand, Britain is a fine example of over-censoring violence. Manhunt 2 comes to mind. I think moderation in both is called for. There's nothing wrong with sex or violence as long as they're used appropriately. Some may disagree (Pacifists and Antisexuals) but there will always be some who disagree. To sum up, I'm really not offended by any of those things, I just think all of them require a conversation with your child beforehand. Graphic violence and sex, however, I don't think can be shown at earlier stages in childhood because of their undeveloped brains. They could very well freak out at either of those, seeing as how they lack discernment. Language and guy kissing should be easily handled with a discussion and then you can move on. Of course, every kid has different strengths and weaknesses, so those rules might change... Parenting is confusing. :wacko: |
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| Arnieboy | Apr 14 2008, 06:45 AM Post #4 |
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To be honest, a severed human head is more graphical and more believable than any sex scene i've seen in a game. Besides, games have AGE RATINGS FOR A BLOODY GOOD REASON. |
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| Naoko | Apr 14 2008, 08:48 AM Post #5 |
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QFT. Thar be example of scapegoating thar. Blame the game, nooo, it's not the parent's fault for being lazy and not watching what the kid is doing, of course not. God people are dumb. A parent can't control everything, but a ten-year-old playing God of War or something... Think about it, parents. How dumb/LAZY are you?
I agree, but at least I do think that seeing violence is worse for a child than seeing sex is. I'd rather them not see either, but it's a heck of a lot worse to explain why the guy's head got chopped off than to explain what the two nice people in a bed are doing. "Uhhh... Bad stuff happened and you should never do that" compared to "they're two people who care about each other and you'll learn when you're older but don't do that" God, how do you explain to a kid what sex is? It's not like you can actually tell them. Not a 6-year-old or something. Still, people killing each other... That's kind of worse. And honestly? I'd rather kids not get so desensitized to violence. Everyone in our culture is anymore, and that's not exactly a good thing. |
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| Arnieboy | Apr 14 2008, 09:47 AM Post #6 |
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You have a good point Naoko, a kid seeing sex is definately not as bad, (however slim the difference is), as seeing a severed head. It's like you hear stories of kids wandering in bedrooms quite often to find their parents 'at it' then the usual explaination, 'when 2 people love each other very much' etc. But how many times do you hear a story of a kid walking into a room to find a severed head? (Well besides from a recent British story of a head found on the beach by 2 girls >_>;) |
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| Mr. Storm | Apr 14 2008, 10:08 AM Post #7 |
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And yet, that second explanation is longer than the first. >_> Plus, sex has more details, intricacies, morals, and all that other fun stuff to go along with it. Violence is generally "Don't ever do that." I would guess the scarring degree is dependent on the child.
Why is that? Desensitization seems desired, as long as they know consciously that it's bad.
Talk to any shrink and they'll say if you expose a kid to either of those at a young age, it's bad. Again, I would guess the scarring degree is dependent on the child. |
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| Naoko | Apr 14 2008, 10:51 AM Post #8 |
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True, but in the end, violence is a bad thing, sex isn't necessarily a bad thing. Bad for kids, but violence is still the worst.
..... Since when is desensitization desired? To a small extent perhaps, but usually you hear people saying how horrible it is than people see grotesque pictures of the war in Iraq and don't think anything of it.
Again, I agree, but I think the scarring would probably be worse from violence. A kid seeing someone beat up badly is probably going to have more problems than seeing people having sex, although both MIGHT cause problems. A 5-year-old who has no clue what sex is will likely be like "wtf was that?" and eventually forget about it. You're not going to forget someone getting beat up. Although both are probably very scarring to see at such a young age. |
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