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| Panther III | Sep 6 2007, 01:54 PM Post #41 |
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What you are saying makes no sense. You are saying we shouldn't tell them 'bad' advice. Yet its that same 'bad' advice (cash crops) that helped boost the USA's economy back in the day. I think its safe to assume that the peoples basic needs should come before and stupid little animal no one outside of the Amazon knows about. You are being selfish by saying that a country shouldnt be able to use property it owns to feed its people. |
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Sep 6 2007, 05:59 PM Post #42 |
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A) Different circumstances. Not the same thing works for each case. The US also faced less competition and was already moderately developed thanks to the fact it used to be a colony of Great Britain. Besides, America did not just grow cash crops, they were also able to grow food for their citizens. The rules we impose upon them says they stop growing crops that their citizens can use and replace those crops with cash crops. B ) So, why are you for cash crops? Cash crops take from the space these countries have for farm land and are all exported. Besides, a basic need of humans is clean air, those forests provide clean air. If we didn't impose that on them, they wouldn't need to cut down rainforests. Again, rainforests are not good farmland. Again, rainforests are home to natives who have been living in harmony for a long time. Again, rainforests make poor grazing ground for animals not native to it. If we didn't force them to grow cash crops instead of crops their citizens can use, they would not need to displace natives and ruin the environment. By forcing them to grow cash crops instead of being more lax with their debts we have killed plants that could have many medical properties (and don't scoff at that, think how many of our medicines are synthetic but came from natural sources originally), we have displaced citizens, killed species of animals (again, diversity is good for an ecosystem) and has been bad for the environment C) I'm saying they should be able to, cash crops are exported, they don't feed people. Government are forced to take land that once was growing food for their people and grow crops that go to us. See, that's not feeding the people. Plus when you have several countries all within close proximity growing the same cash crops, there is competition. Competition causes prices to go down. As a result the cash crops don't feed the people and they don't help get rid of the debt that these crops are meant to pay off. This causes conditions to get, believe it or not, even worse! Food is more expensive since it has to be imported and there is even less money for these countries to buy food, plus less money for the citizens to get food as wages in these countries are low. |
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| Panther III | Sep 6 2007, 08:42 PM Post #43 |
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A) The reason America exists right now for the most part is because of the cash crops of Tobacco and Cotton, if you knew anything about early US history you would know that. It has nothing at all to do with the UK. B ) I'm not saying I'm for cash crops. I'm saying that it is their land and they can develop said land however they want. C) I would like to see you go down to Brazil and tell the owner of that land to farm food for the tenth (if that high) of the profits of the cash crops. It will definately give him a good laugh. |
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Sep 6 2007, 09:37 PM Post #44 |
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No, the UK played a role, as a colony the US was able to get some nice little advantages associated with that in the early part of it's history. If you disagree, how did America survive in those early years as a colony? Didn't that help when America became its own nation? Add to the the fact that the cash crops like tobacco and cotton where not the only crops grown during that time. America was also a self-reliant nation, growing it's own food. In the world today, a lot of countries in poverty that grow cash crops do so because it's either they grow those for some limited debt assistance or get none by catering to the needs of it's citizens. It is their land, however we've told them to grow certain products with their land. This means in order to grow food they have to burn and clear cut the rainforest. This is bad for the environment as a whole. It also is bad for them as it's not good farmland. It's bad grazing land. It's causing natives to be displaced. This has also opened up an illegal slave-trade in these areas as they can't make enough money from such shitty farmland to actually hire people, so they basically lure people out to the rainforest from villages and end up treating them as slaves and giving them illegally low wages. Secondly, the reason growing food is unprofitable is because all the farm land has been taken by the government to grow the cash crops we force them to grow, leaving bad farmland to grow food which leads to poor food. The poor food can't sell for much meaning there's no money in it (unless you get into the slave thing), meanwhile every country around you are growing the same cashcrops, leading to lower prices smaller profits for those who grow the cash crops. |
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