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| Tweet Topic Started: Jun 4 2007, 11:58 PM (511 Views) | |
| Darth Makar | Jun 4 2007, 11:58 PM Post #1 |
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Isn't time a strange thing? Of all things in the world, time must be the strangest of all. For what is more unalterable than time? Death, you say? Not nearly so. For we can delay death, and we can find curse for what might perhaps have become death without the cure. Ah, but time cannot change. Forward it marches all the time, keeping its steady pace. Clocks can stop, but time will not. Even when all of the clocks in the world are broken, time still occurs. But what would happen if the earth stopped rotating? Surely time will still continue, for it is not dependent upon the rotation. What, then, is time, this powerful thing which not even the greatest of rulers can control? |
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| Mr. Storm | Jun 5 2007, 12:19 PM Post #2 |
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Time is a depressing subject. A depressing subject that I don't think anyone can understand completely, since it isn't something we can see, feel, or touch. All we can see, feel, or touch is what it effects. |
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| oxcjae. | Jun 5 2007, 01:44 PM Post #3 |
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De ja vu scares the crap out of me, I got to admit. |
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| Joseppi | Jun 5 2007, 03:14 PM Post #4 |
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Time, it's a valuable thing. Watch it fly by as the pendulum swings. Watch it count down until the end of the days. The clock slips life away. I sound so wise don't I? |
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| Mr. Storm | Jun 5 2007, 03:45 PM Post #5 |
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That sounds strangely familiar... |
| "I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason and intellect has intended us to forego their use." - Galileo Galilei | |
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| Troopa | Jun 5 2007, 09:02 PM Post #6 |
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It's a song, Storm. Time is a very interesting subject, especially when you get deep into it. But on its basic terms, time is just a measurement. For example, it took me 15-20 seconds or so to type this, and that moment of my life has now passed. Yay. |
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| Darth Makar | Jun 5 2007, 10:36 PM Post #7 |
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Congratulations. You just wasted fifteen to twenty seconds of your life. Not that I'm saying that your post was bad--because it wasn't--but think of all of the things you could have been doing instead of writing that post. And now that time is gone and you'll never get it back. But sometimes I don't want time back. If someone offered you the chance to become a child again--knowing what you know now or completely innocent, your choice--would you do it? I know that I wouldn't: though I may sometimes wish I was a kid again so as to not have the responsibilities I have now, there's just something so unnatural about altering time. I guess it makes me think of something Twilight Zone-ish or something, like there must be some sort of catch. |
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| Troopa | Jun 6 2007, 07:28 PM Post #8 |
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I don't mind. I believe life is eternal, so wasting time is not too big of a deal to me. Still, I do like to be productive. Even if life is not eternal, I won't know that when I die, so either way I'm good! I would not want to be a child again. |
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| ManualSearch | Jun 6 2007, 10:10 PM Post #9 |
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Fate. Fate is much scarier, much more powerful then time, even to the greatest rulers. And I don't mean the 'my future in the stars' fate, I mean the 'what just happened just now' fate. Lemme give you an example with a short story. Sometime a year or two ago, I was an NSider, and I posted a lot. One schoolday, when I was realllly bored, and I was in the computer lab (at a time when I shouldn't have been), I noticed a link on there called 'Xeplosion Forest', which sounded interesting. It was an RP, which I continued playing. I met a guy, who took me to Crow's website. Crow, a year later, brought me here. The reason I am here at HF today is because I decided to join (Crow asked me to take down Aaron >.>). The only reason I knew of this site is because I met Crow. The only reason I met Crow was because a guy introduced us. The only reason I knew the guy was because one school day, when I was seriously debating whether I should be on NSider or not, I noticed an interesting-sounding link. If I hadn't clicked that link, everything would be soooo different... I'd probably be out playing sports instead of wasting all my time on the web. ... Fate is quite possibly the scariest thing, because the choice you make right now may very well affect your life for years to come. Would I accept time back with my knowledge already? No. Not if I had to be a child again. But the real question isn't if you could have time back. The real question, I think, is... would you do it all again? |
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| Darth Makar | Jun 6 2007, 10:28 PM Post #10 |
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Fate. Hmmm, I don't know if I would really call it fate, but I have to agree with you on the random circumstances which build upon each other to bring everyone to their current locations at this point in time. My case: Five years ago, my friend introduced me to an RPG. I played for awhile, but it was eventually closed due to innactivity. I didn't touch another RPG for a long time after that since I lacked both time and interest. I wasn't much of a computer person anyhow. I have taken piano lessons for about nine years until recently. As I was reflecting upon the sad fact that my teacher was moving out of state, I realized not only that I had a great time with my lessons, but the fact that since I had such a fun teacher, I was truly interested in piano. Not many teachers will let their students play videogame music. And it was a search for videogame music that lead me to NSM one fateful day back in February of 2005. I wanted to ask for a request, but I couldn't email the admin. Thus, my only option was to join the forums. I didn't know if I ought to--as mentioned before, I wasn't a computer person--and I didn't know if my parents would approve. Still, I clicked the join button, thought up the random name "Makar" (which led everyone to believe I was a guy, by the way) and posted in the forums. I doubt I would never have done so if I hadn't joined my friend's RPG for the few brief weeks long ago. However, maybe I would have. The site proved to be interesting, and I was hooked immediately. Then one day I was playing around and having a "battle" with another member. We were blowing each other up by means of asteriks (*kills ____ with car*) when I suggested--recalling my friend's RPG of ages past--that we make our own Legend of Zelda RPG. The other member agreed, and we set to make plans. Then a third person who I did not know joined the plans and actually made the site. At first I was mad because I didn't know him, but he proved to be a faithful administrator; I don't think NSM RPG would have lasted if he wasn't able to figure out the Admin CP. Eventually we gathered some members from NSM and other members floated in from the far recesses of the Internet. I poured both time and energy into the RPG to make it what it is, and I'm impressed that it has become what it has. And weirded out by how much of a life it has shown me I don't have. Two years after the founding of NSM RPG, I was still searching for places to advertise. I came across HF, where I planned to make my advertisement and then leave. However, something about this place struck me as interesting--probably because everyone is pretty casual here; it doesn't have the same feeling as many other forums--and I stuck around. And made insane post counts. So in the end, if it were not for my friend's RPG (which I was very awkward in) and my awesome piano teacher, NSM RPG would never have been made, and I would not be sitting here in front of this computer telling you the pitiful tale of my lack of real life. |
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| ManualSearch | Jun 6 2007, 10:35 PM Post #11 |
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And that's my main point. I mean, I realize that time is a huge force, and I agree. But fate (I'm still going to call it fate. It may be a series of coincidences, but really, what is fate, if not a series of coincidences?) honestly scares me tons more than time. (Oh, and let's not turn this into a 'how I found HF' thread. I think one of those already exist somewhere in the reaches of space. I was only trying to show a point.) See, time doesn't scare me because I've come to terms with the fact that I can't go back. Sometimes I want to, sure, but I know that I never can. And it sometimes bothers me, but if I can't go back, then I might as well make up for it with what I can do. Oh, did you know that time is the fourth dimension? There's height, length, width, and then time. It's pretty sweet. If we could process the fourth dimension, we could literally see something as it looks at any time it exists. And there are theroys that with certain wavelengths, at certain places, we may even be able to step through time... course, I'm only mensioning this because I like science, and that's some pretty interesting stuff. |
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| Darth Makar | Jun 6 2007, 10:41 PM Post #12 |
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Of course. I suppose that is very logical. For we know what has already happened, but we have no idea of what is going to occur in the future. It's similar to people's fear of death: everyone fears where we go or what happens to us after we die, but no one bothers to wonder where we were before we were born.
As was I. This is actually a topic ("fate" if you will) which I have thought about many a times in the past few weeks with my teacher moving out of the area. It amazes me how one little action can cause a huge effect. I was thinking about this in my economics class yesterday--yeah, 'cause econ is just that fun. If I had sat next to that person over there, how would things be different? Simply choosing a spot in a different area of a classroom next to a different student could cause major changes in one's life. I sat next to Person A, got to know her and was talking to her, but what if I sat next to Person B? We would have different conversations, maybe have become friends, etc. Then I would not be friends with A, but with B. |
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| ManualSearch | Jun 6 2007, 10:53 PM Post #13 |
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Yeah... econ is fun! :ZZZ: But yeah... it's just incredible. We can't know the outcome of our choices; we can only know what the choices are. I read in my US History class, stapled to my teacher's podium, 'Life can only be understood backwards, but it can only be lived forwards.' Kinda seems applicable in the case - we'll never know what our choices lead to until we choose one, and we STILL won't know the others. Hilarious... Irony... |
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| oxcjae. | Jun 6 2007, 11:02 PM Post #14 |
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Yay for In The End by Linkin Park! |
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| ManualSearch | Jun 6 2007, 11:13 PM Post #15 |
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POWER OVERWHELMING
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I'm pretty sure we all knew. Even Storm, who I think was being sarcastic. |
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| Darth Makar | Jun 6 2007, 11:36 PM Post #16 |
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Indeed. I could get into the fact that we actually don't understand life backwards, but that would be getting off topic and I would like to keep this topic on topic.
There are theories out there stating that although we choose one choice, the other choice is still played out by another version--an alternate version--of us. Therefore, there are an infinite number of each person living in an infinite number of parallel universes. We will never know the outcome had we chosen the other option, but another version of us will. |
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| ManualSearch | Jun 6 2007, 11:45 PM Post #17 |
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POWER OVERWHELMING
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Touchè. |
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| Darth Makar | Jun 9 2007, 01:33 AM Post #18 |
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It's a neat concept. I'm not sure I fully believe it--well, actually, I don't think I believe it at all--but think of all the possibilities! It's sheer size keeps me entertained. I've read some books about it (fiction books, of course) but I can't remember titles. If I do, I'll be sure to let you know. |
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| ManualSearch | Jun 10 2007, 05:48 PM Post #19 |
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Well, there's only one problem with that whole theory, and that's if you ever exist in one of those parallel dimensions as two people at the same time, it'd literally destroy the universe completely and entirely. But it's an interesting concept. But that also means I'm an *censored* in half of the universes, and a saint in the other half. And me in this one. I realize that I'm not able to see or change the other universes however, and that I'm stuck in just this one. So, that's what I focus on. |
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| Troopa | Jun 10 2007, 07:19 PM Post #20 |
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And why is that? |
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