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Maturity
Topic Started: Jun 3 2007, 09:01 PM (1,157 Views)
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Darth Makar
Jun 7 2007, 03:05 PM
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compulsive need for and use of a habit-forming substance (as heroin, nicotine, or alcohol) characterized by tolerance and by well-defined physiological symptoms upon withdrawal; broadly : persistent compulsive use of a substance known by the user to be harmful


Keyword here is harmful. Basic food is not harmful; in fact, we need it. Overeating is harmful and can be addictive. Therefore, it's an addiction.

MMmmmmmmmmmmmmmm yeah, I guess you're right... eating isn't harmful...

[expletive deleted]! And I thought I had something going there! Well, either way, I still think that premarital sex is immature, in every case. I don't believe in sex addictions.
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Why do you say you do not believe in sex addictions? Do you think that people just say that they are addicted to sex in order to not claim responsibility for their actions? Certain there are some who do that, just as there are people who claim that they are perfectly sane when they are not. However, one can become addicted to any substance from alcohol to videogames, so I do not see why someone can not be addicted to sex.

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Addiction (usually) stems from a lack of self-control and/or will. It's really that simple, most of the time. Of course, there are those addictions that have withdrawal symptoms that can kill you...which I think are a bit more complicated. XD

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I think irresponsible would be a better word for a lot of the things that we're talking about right now.

BTW. Not "believing" in sex addictions is like not "believing" that any mental disorder is actually a disorder. Go take a psych class if you have to. Some people who have an addiction to alcohol/sex/whatever don't have much problem with it, and others do.
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Jun 9 2007, 03:17 PM
I think irresponsible would be a better word for a lot of the things that we're talking about right now.

BTW. Not "believing" in sex addictions is like not "believing" that any mental disorder is actually a disorder. Go take a psych class if you have to. Some people who have an addiction to alcohol/sex/whatever don't have much problem with it, and others do.

Hmm, glad to hear the hypocracy factor kick in again...

First off, yeah, I do believe there are a lot of people who DO use 'sex addiction' to write off thier mistakes.

But as for those people who don't, I still don't believe 'sex addiction' is a true term. Here's why.

I believe that humanity is still, even as much as they don't want to admit it, an instinctual race. We do whatever we can to accomplish two tasks.

1) Stay alive.
2) Reproduce.

And I believe that we thrive off of these instincts. That, even as human beings, we must stick to these.

I believe that those people who supposedly have a 'sex addiction' are no more than more-controlled by instinct. That doesn't define an addiction, being more-controlled by instinct. Put bluntly, I do not believe instinct to be addiction.

And anyway, you put down the definition to addiction...
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compulsive need for and use of a habit-forming substance (as heroin, nicotine, or alcohol) characterized by tolerance and by well-defined physiological symptoms upon withdrawal; broadly : persistent compulsive use of a substance known by the user to be harmful.

I address two parts of this.
1) "characterized by tolerance and by well-defined physiological symptoms on withdrawl" - First off, aren't we all tolerant to sex? I don't recall anyone having an allergic reaction to sex... and the only people I've ever heard of dying from it are those people who have a heart attack during it, which isn't the sex, it's just the excitement.
And 'well-defined psyche symptoms from withdrawl '? I have never met anyone going through sex withdrawl. People don't go through clear sex withdrawl. You can't tell who's had sex just by looking at them. People don't have 'well-defined psyche symptoms' from not having sex in a long time. I mean, I haven't.

2) 'persistant use of a substance known to be harmful'
Sex? Harmful? Since when? I mean, there's always the KINKY stuff that's harmful, but we never said 'kinky sex addiction'... (XD)
Sex can do things to other people. I admit that. Rape screws with someone's mind permanantly. Having an accident child who knows that harsh. Being put up for adoption... I don't even want to think of how that could hurt. Sex can hurt other people...
But the person seeking sex? The rapist? The person who's having casual sex? How are they being *hurt* from it?
Psycologically? You can't say 'psycologically'... how the hell should we know how it's working on thier minds. Saying psycologically is like playing the God card, anyway... how the hell do we prove it? But physically... then no, it's not nessicarily harming you...

So, basically, my point is, if we're going to keep the same definition for addiction (which I hope we would, or else it'd be unfair to ME in this argument...), then sex can't be an addiction because it does not harm the user.

And that's the reason I don't believe in sex addiction. Because we're ALL trying to have sex, no matter how much we say we aren't.
(Oh, and... antitransendentalism ftw, btw)
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sex can't be an addiction because it does not harm the user.

I disagree.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_addiction...exual_Addiction
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But as for those people who don't, I still don't believe 'sex addiction' is a true term. Here's why.

I believe that humanity is still, even as much as they don't want to admit it, an instinctual race. We do whatever we can to accomplish two tasks.

1) Stay alive.
2) Reproduce.

And I believe that we thrive off of these instincts. That, even as human beings, we must stick to these.

I believe that those people who supposedly have a 'sex addiction' are no more than more-controlled by instinct. That doesn't define an addiction, being more-controlled by instinct. Put bluntly, I do not believe instinct to be addiction.

We need food to survive (as in your point, "1) Stay alive") but it can be an addiction as well.

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