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| Tweet Topic Started: Jun 3 2007, 09:01 PM (1,159 Views) | |
| Troopa | Jun 4 2007, 11:15 PM Post #21 |
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Maturity is about self-control. It's about being fair, knowing what is right, and living an honest life based on these principles.
That is not correct. If the government passes a law that makes playing video games illegal, is it then immature to play video games? Or is the problem with the law itself? It also depends on the punishment. If they would kill you for playing Mario, then it'd be pretty stupid to risk your life to play a game. But still, this is a problem with the law; not with the games.
She never claimed to be perfect. She's expressing her opinion about what is immature. |
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| Darth Makar | Jun 4 2007, 11:36 PM Post #22 |
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Makar's Opinion: I do not think that anyone out there is mature in every respect of the word. Sure, some people are certainly more mature than others, but I do not believe that one person is 100% mature. For instance, I knew a girl in high school who was very smart book-wise (intellectual maturity would be the closest type, I think), but very immature when it came to decision-making. She could not figure out why she was pulled over by the cops for going 15 mph over the speed limit on the freeway with a car full of teenagers. I could do nothing but roll my eyes, for here was this girl in all honors classes and she did not have enough sense in her to realize what a stupid decision she had made. She could not only have killed herself and those with her in the car, but also innocent drivers who shared the road. Now here's another example: back in junior high school, I was considered "immature" because I didn't flirt with guys. But was I really so immature? Yes, I think I was but not for that reason. Actually, I think that people who flirt alot (alot) are immature because it makes them look foolish. |
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| "L" | Jun 5 2007, 05:11 AM Post #23 |
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well with weed i'm a bit mixed on that, studies show what harm it can do, but some studies also show that it does help the body is some ways. so i'm more 50/50 on that. |
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| Joseppi | Jun 5 2007, 09:22 AM Post #24 |
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A bad punishment doesn't always mean that doing something is mature either. If the government told me to deny Christ or die, I'd let them kill me. Does that make me immature, to most of the people here, probably so. But I say it does not. |
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| Troopa | Jun 5 2007, 09:03 PM Post #25 |
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Yeah, I agree. |
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| Naoko | Jun 6 2007, 12:28 PM Post #26 |
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You're right. It was an over-exaggeration, sorry. But doing drugs that are illegal is immature. I don't care if you like it, etc etc. Listen to what Troopa himself said, the thing about it being bad for you. It's illegal, is it that hard to obey a law? That is, there are some laws that shouldn't be there. But I'm just talking about substance laws and stuff like that. |
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| ManualSearch | Jun 6 2007, 12:35 PM Post #27 |
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Well, I'm glad it's someone who doesn't take drugs who says this, because that makes it a whole lot more 'how the hell should you know?' I mean, one many not condone drugs, but when you say they're immature, you throw in a piece of the hypocracy factor somewhere... I think I'm immature a lot of the times, but personally, I don't want to be a part of my generation. My generation is rude, and so I act how I want to act, and if others don't like it, that's thier fault. I also think there are some really immature things people do. Like the preps at school who whine when they can't shop at the mall. I buy clothes from Goodwill and you're complaining that you can't go to the Gap? Oh, and premarital sex is really immature, too. I mean, sheesh, I can deal with not getting any, so why can't everyone else? Of course, like I just said, how the hell should I know, but still... And when people complain about stupid things. People are overly negative. It's really sad when people say they hate things like mushrooms on pizza or osmething stupid like that. People don't realize the difference between the words dislike and hate anymore. You shouldn't hate mushrooms on pizza (or whatever you can think up that's unworthy to hate). Hell, you shouldn't hate anything at all, it's not good for your health. But if you want to dislike the mushrooms, be my guest! Just realize that you don't hate them... Personally, I think that immature is a stupid word altogether, because it basically sums down to 'acting like the rest of the people like you', which is a stupid consept in general. People call me immature because I sing out loud sometimes for no reason whatsoever. That's not immature, that's just not acting like everyone around me, which I think is the most important thing there is. An original is ALWAYS more valuable than a copy. |
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| Darth Makar | Jun 6 2007, 06:18 PM Post #28 |
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I'm all for original, but . . . :P
You just contradicted yourself here. You don't want to be rude because you don't want to be like the rest of your generation. But you still act rude because you don't care?
But they're cool, so it's not immature. Cool people set the standards for "maturity," at least that's what it seems to be for me. If you act different--such as singing out loud--they roll their eyes and call you immature. And if they sleep around? Well, that's not immature in the least.
I'm with you on this one. Though that second sentence sounds a little bratty. ;) Some people are addicted to it and need to get help.
While I agree that most people don't necessarily hate mushroom, I don't know if I would call it immature. |
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| ManualSearch | Jun 6 2007, 10:02 PM Post #29 |
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But what? O.o Well, it's not really a contradiction... I don't try to act rude, is my main point. I don't laugh at other people because I want to fit in with the crowd. I do some things that are rude, but most of the time, I don't. I don't even talk to people very often, and when I do, I'm rarely acting serious at all.
My sarcasm sensor is going off, but it's been busted for the last week or so... I hate the 'cool' people. I despise them, because, as I said, they're the worst of my generation. They make fun of people (like me) for [expletive deleted] that they either do, or can't help. Cool kids make me sick, and sleeping around is *extremely* immature. ((If that WAS sarcasm, sorry for the false reading, and don't feel the need to explain it, b\c I can see where it'd be sarcastic. XP))
People are addicted to sex. XD Everyone's addicted to sex. Everyone's addicted to a lot of things. Like eating. People are addicted to eating. Of course, we have words like 'basic needs' to describe that addiction, but addiction it is nonetheless. And, I realize that comparing sex to eating is probably not the wisest, but the point is that people have plenty of addictions. Self-control is essentially the period of time one can hold out on thier biggest addictions. And yes, you can quote that. In fact, here, I'll do it for you. XD I'm just saying that people who actually hate stupid things are immature. If people dislike mushrooms, that's cool, I'm all for it! That's not immature at all! But if people honestly feel a hate for fungi on thier pizza, then they're putting too much attention and work into hating something. I really don't hate very much, because I realize that me saying 'I hate avacados' was really a lie. My point isn't 'do they SAY they hate mushrooms', my point is 'do they REALLY hate mushrooms?' |
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| Darth Makar | Jun 6 2007, 10:35 PM Post #30 |
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There are some times I would rather see the copy than an original.
Ah. So you are saying that you are rude, but the other people are mean.
It was kind of sarcastic. I was just mocking the cool people for setting the standards for the rest of us lowlings. I never had too much of a problem with cool people--yeah, they teased me a bit in junior high for my music choices, but for the most part they left me alone because I had no desire to be like them. It's the wannabes and satallites you have to watch out for.
Except for the fact that you need food to survive. One can survive without sex. |
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| ManualSearch | Jun 6 2007, 10:46 PM Post #31 |
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Yeah, kinda-sorta, I guess... but I don't try to be rude, either. I am sometimes, but I don't try to be... Yeah, but that's my problem. The cool people *won't* leave me alone. They continue to mess with me and it annoys me. But whatever, I'll always be myself, at least... never a dull moment in my shoes... Didn't I say, right after that, something like 'Of course, it's probably not wisest to compare sex to eating'? That's what I meant by that. I realize that one can live without sex (believe me, I realize... XP XD), but it was suppose to show a point, and not be an actual comparison. |
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| Darth Makar | Jun 6 2007, 10:49 PM Post #32 |
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Okay.
Duh. They need someone to belittle, and you seem to be the perfect target. Congratulations. People are stupid. One day I shall live by myself in a house in the middle of an undisclosed forest where no one will ever be able to find me. Or my doggies.
Aye. Totally understand. |
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| ManualSearch | Jun 6 2007, 10:59 PM Post #33 |
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Just like the Walden, then? XD Maybe, but I'm too antitransendentalist for that. XD |
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| Troopa | Jun 7 2007, 12:01 AM Post #34 |
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Not according to the standard meaning of the word "addiction." You're free to make up your own definition, but if we're going by standard definitions, then no... human needs are not addictions. |
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| ManualSearch | Jun 7 2007, 07:32 AM Post #35 |
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the state of being enslaved to a habit or practice or to something that is psychologically or physically habit-forming, as narcotics, to such an extent that its cessation causes severe trauma. ... O.o Are you enslaved by eating? I'd say so... I have to eat... Is it habit-forming psychologically or physically? Well, you die if you don't, and you feel pain when you don't... and snacking is generally just eating on habit, because you're bored or something. I'd say it's a habit... Will cessation cause severe trauma? How more 'severe' can you get then death? I'd say eating and breathing and ALL of our basic needs are addictions. |
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| Troopa | Jun 7 2007, 09:43 AM Post #36 |
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Addiction is because of a perceived mental need. Addiction does not apply to physical needs. |
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| ManualSearch | Jun 7 2007, 10:55 AM Post #37 |
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Well, first off, I think recieving sustenence is a basic instinct, and counts as a mental need. If I were to starve you of food, after a few days, wouldn't you think that you needed food? Wouldn't your every thought basically be about food as your body demanded it, and you had hunger pains? Also, I'm pretty sure that addiction can have to do with a physical need, as well. |
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| Fullmetal | Jun 7 2007, 12:19 PM Post #38 |
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Basic instinct is in relation with your body, not your brain. As for the basic needs, your body tells your brain to do something about it, not the opposite. |
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| ManualSearch | Jun 7 2007, 12:26 PM Post #39 |
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Well, really, I don't think any one of OUR definitions means anything. We'd have to find an english major to decypher it, because I still believe that addictions and be physical as well as mental, and that's basically what this is about. |
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| Darth Makar | Jun 7 2007, 02:05 PM Post #40 |
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Keyword here is harmful. Basic food is not harmful; in fact, we need it. Overeating is harmful and can be addictive. Therefore, it's an addiction. |
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