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| Tweet Topic Started: Feb 18 2007, 08:56 PM (1,442 Views) | |
| burnedalive | Feb 19 2007, 09:05 PM Post #21 |
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i agree with "B''. Why? because America needs a change in its system of politics. Politics=lying. thats all i got to say about that. lol Obama sin laden |
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| Ginnoir | Feb 19 2007, 09:35 PM Post #22 |
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and that is?............ |
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| Crow Evermore | Feb 19 2007, 10:23 PM Post #23 |
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Hurf Durf
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Barack Obama FTW, y'all. |
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| Naoko | Feb 19 2007, 11:13 PM Post #24 |
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I, THE GREAT PAPYRUS
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What's saddest is that Panther is the Republican with the most votes. XD |
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| LollyWolly | Feb 20 2007, 12:39 AM Post #25 |
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i vote for rudy... first off.. dont give me any of that he half assed after 9/11 crap. half of you are in the middle of east bumblesfuck in middle america and dont know a thing about 9/11. i saw his performance after 9/11. i was there for it. i remember waking up everyday and i could see the smoke from my house. lets see u lead a major metropolitan city after it suffers the greatest terrorist attack in u.s. history. secondly.. the country aint ready for a woman president... especially one as puss faced and symbolic of a lesbian as her. America just aint ready for Hitlery Rotten Clinton. mccain's an idiot.. plain and simple. obama may be black friendly.. but we aint ready for a black president either. right now states are pushing for gay civil unions or freedom for fags. we can only handle giving aide to one civil rights group at a time.. now its the gays... which means we cant give any happy to the blacks. if i were forced to pick a dem id say edwards... a loser but not as dim witted. rudy all the way |
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| (B) | Feb 20 2007, 05:33 AM Post #26 |
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The intangible quality that Obama has is the ability to inspire us, as a country, to rise above our perceived disparities and work toward a common goal, in a sensible American manner. Obama has qualities that are similar in tone to those of Kennedy. That man inspired us to fly to the moon, and in doing so united us - both socially and economically - toward a common goal that brought technological ingenuity the likes of which are still being realized. All the candidates claim themselves to be "a uniter, not a divider". Well, we're living in a time with near-unprecedented levels of political division, animosity and hatred. The far right HATE the far left; the far left HATE the far right. And, if you're not in one of those groups, the terrorists are winning, because you hate democracy. It's pathetic, and goes against everything this country stands for. And, it's no accident that we're living in such polarizing times. What is the best way to keep the public from second guessing your policies? How can a government pass legislation that effectively destroys the foundation of liberty? How can an institution charged with the protection of it's citizens get away with blatant scare tactics? How? Divide et impera.
That's because he's probably the most qualified, I'm afraid. |
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| Panther III | Feb 20 2007, 06:56 AM Post #27 |
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Anyone in the world can seem like the perfect leader (IE Hitler was able to inspire the Germans). That doesn't make them the right leader. |
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| (B) | Feb 20 2007, 07:12 AM Post #28 |
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So... that's it? That's your argument? Well, I obviously stand corrected. |
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| Ginnoir | Feb 20 2007, 04:42 PM Post #29 |
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Theres no need to sound arrogant B. Especially when you have not said or done anything to earn the right to be arrogant. So far all you have done is talk about how Obama is seemingly a demi-god amongst the other candidates and that all of them have no quality to them at all. Yet you have failed to provide any kind of proof or any arguement that supports your claims. |
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| Panther III | Feb 20 2007, 08:23 PM Post #30 |
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Just approved this. This was in the queue line. |
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| Naoko | Feb 20 2007, 10:06 PM Post #31 |
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I have to agree with Lolly on some of that. (And props to Lolly. I didn't expect such a nice post about politics, it sounds like you have changed your ways a bit.
) Although the Hitlery thing was a bit uncalled for...I see little wrong with Clinton, really. But I don't think she'd make a good president, and I don't think she'd get elected. It's not that the country isn't ready for a female or a black president - it's that way too many people refuse to vote for someone who isn't white, male, and Protestant. (And Clinton isn't a lesbian, wtf? She's a female in politics, and up until recently, most people held the viewpoint that a woman has to work very hard and be very strict and strong about crap to make it in politics.) You guys, maybe study up on Tom Vilsack. He's running, too. He was governor of Iowa and I pretty much like him. I don't care for Edwards, and I think Vilsack could make it. He's not well-known yet, but... It could happen. Supposedly Carter wasn't well-known when he made it in, either. The Iowa primaries are some of the first and most important primaries in the country, and Vilsack will probably do well there. We'll see, but he's a lot better than Edwards so far. From what I can see, I like Rudy Giuliani best from the Republican candidates. He's pretty moderate and supports some things like gay marriage, even. I like him from what I've seen, although I greatly prefer Vilsack. Oh, hey, is Giuliani a Catholic? I looked him up on wikipedia to confirm some of the viewpoints I wasn't sure about, and it says he's gotten a marriage annulment with a priest, which would hint that he's Catholic. We've only had a Catholic president once before. |
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| burnedalive | Feb 20 2007, 11:46 PM Post #32 |
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uhhh..... I think i should stay out of this but I dont think any of the candidates are good.... we need a non-politician president. Why? Like i said before politics=lying. So vote for the person for there views, not because they're party. The party system is whats destroying democracy in my views. |
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| Naoko | Feb 21 2007, 12:17 AM Post #33 |
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Eh, both of those should've been "their." Sorries. Anyway. Yeah, most politicians lie, but we're stuck that way. If they do good things for the country, then it's not TOO bad... We're stuck with it and that's just the way things are. And a lot of people do vote on views, but for most people it's very rare that someone of a different party would fit their particular views better than the party they usually vote for unless the person is VERY moderate. Being idealistic is good, but we need to be ideally realistic, too. |
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| (B) | Feb 21 2007, 05:07 AM Post #34 |
Chu Chu
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Look, a pet peeve of mine is when someone disagrees with a point that is made, then uses something totally irrelevant and ridiculous to "prove" their point. And I did, in fact, justify my assertion about Obama. If you didn't get the first time, go back and re-read what I wrote. -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- -
Well, given the amount of national (and international) aid, I think you may be giving him just a little more credit than he deserves. Yes, the attack on NY was horrendous. Yes, it was the worst in history. But that certainly doesn't make Guliani special, just like it doesn't make GW special. There are thousands of people who would have easily handled that situation as well as, or better than, Guliani.
First off, I don't support Hilary. Secondly, grow up.
True.
This paragraph negates everything you've said so far, because it makes glaringly evident your ignorance when it comes to knowing about the candidates, or the constitution, for that matter. Obama is not "black friendly". In fact, that's one of his biggest weaknesses. And, c'mon, "freedom for fags"? You should (at the very least) go read the constitution before you start talking like you have a clue about anything - it's idiots like you that make this country the laughing stock of Earth when it comes to true liberty. |
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| LollyWolly | Feb 21 2007, 01:25 PM Post #35 |
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Guess what buddy? You sound like a liberal. Now who's the idiot? Which makes it obvious why you want to get involved in politics so early. Because I know exactly based on what I've seen of you what you are going to become. That would be either a liberal lawyer that either chases ambulances or works for the ACLU, or some civil rights wackjob. Do I think that Rudy is a God? No. But in comparison to what we have up there, he's probably the next best thing. And don't tell me to grow up. Snotty political jokes are what keeps the dumb majority of this country the least bit interested in politics. And one last thing. I know the Constitution better than you ever will. I know every Amendment and have read through every article. I could repeat the damn Preamble from memory. You probably think you're sounding stellar based on some Scholastic magazine crap you read entilted 'politics for pups'. |
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| Naoko | Feb 21 2007, 02:40 PM Post #36 |
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Oookaaay then. Guys, please... Both of you are doing this a ton. Lolly, you could be more respectful and simply say "gays," you know that. B, you don't need to call Lolly an idiot. EVERYONE needs to try to be respectful and stay in line. Otherwise this will get locked, and none of us want that, so please... Everyone please just be more respectful of each other and their opinions. All you're doing is upsetting each other. |
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| Ginnoir | Feb 21 2007, 04:50 PM Post #37 |
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all you said is that he has the intangible quality to inspire us. you justified nothing. you have no proof of this "intangible quality". if you expect us to consider your point of view, try to provide a little proof and not turn into an arrogant ***hole when someone disagrees with you. also, dont get irritated with me for asking for proof. honestly, if you didnt know a candidate and the only explanation someone could offer you was "he has this intagngible quality", would you want to vote for them? |
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| Paul | Feb 21 2007, 04:52 PM Post #38 |
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Well anyways we really don't need a Religion Fanatic prez. |
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TECH TEAM questions or concerns, pm me. | |
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| (B) | Feb 22 2007, 05:36 AM Post #39 |
Chu Chu
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Become? I'm a 27 year old Mechanical Engineer and Project Manager. I've been all around the country, continent and some parts of the World. I've "been around", I guess you could say. And, no, I don't want to go back to college to become a lawyer. Hell, if I were to go back to college (which is a real possibility sometime in the next decade), it would be for a PE, MS or PhD - I know better than to start the process of becoming a lawyer at my age.
Well then, I'm once again proven wrong. :rolleyes:
I sure would, given my understanding of history, and the realization of where we are as a country. The point was made by Lolly up above, when he called me a liberal. Nothing could be further from the truth, but people resort to calling people liberals/cons/neo-cons/evangelical extremists/etc because we live in a very polarized time. None of the aforementioned candidates do much to promote true bipartisan behavior. The one person who does promote the most, in my opinion, would be Obama. This opinion is based on the track records of each candidate: - Guliani is quite conservative in most cases, except certain things like abortion, which I personally agree with. However, a lot of what he did in NYC was great, though some of the tactics used were less then presidential, in my opinion. - Romney did some great stuff in SLC, but scares me because I fear this country needs someone less associated with big business and slightly less religious, at this point in time. Also, I disagree with his views on taxes & health care. - McCain isn't even worthy of a description, in my opinion. - Clinton is obviously running on name recognition and the magic minority carpet. Sadly, more people seem concerned with her last name than her actual stand on issues, since it's obvious her views change with the polls. - Edwards simply doesn't have what it takes. I agree with many of his policies, but I don't think he has the charisma and leadership qualities that are critical to repairing a broken nation. - Obama, while inexperienced, has a lot of views that I happen to agree with, but some I don't. I think his POV on political corruption (on BOTH sides), health care and religion are spot-on in terms of reconciling the political division in this country. I don't agree with his stance on Iraq, but he's the only candidate to offer a legitimate solution to the problem, and that is respectable. |
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| Game Freak | Feb 22 2007, 07:32 AM Post #40 |
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King of Games
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I did. Twice i think too lol and don't make conversation of my butt |
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