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NexGen Wars
Topic Started: Jan 3 2007, 03:30 PM (379 Views)
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personally i think the ps3 is the best console. not only does it have the best graphics and capabilities but it (like its predecessors) will most likely have massive amounts of rpgs and action adventure, which are my favs. i also think that they did the right thing in trying to appeal to the fans they have already instead of being (IMO) sellouts like nintendo and microsoft who are just trying to attract everyone instead of paying attention to their loyalists. as for the ps3 being stuffed with stuff, idk where you are getting that. the ps3 really has nothing to much different from the ps2. the ps2 had a dvd player and the ps3 has a BluRay player, by using bluray they are merely taking a business risk because they feel the bluray is about to become big. they both can connect to the internet. true the ps3 graphics may be a lil overkill but thats what their fans like. as far as i can see the only things very new for the ps3 are the wireless 6 axis controllers and the harddrive.
Wii on the other hand is selling themselves out to try and appeal to everyone. They took the time to develop the controllers and control scheme just for those people that find sitting there and playing to be boring. they were at first going to make it able to play every game from previous consoles to try and appeal to those who like classics. they added the internet after the popularity of the xbox and ps2 online. as for the 360, im just gonna stay off that topic cuz ill proly end up getting myself banned, because i cant stand microsoft in general much less the xbox. there are other examples but ive gone on long enough.

as far as numbers sold the 360 isnt doing all that hot if you look at it. the wii and ps3 have been out only about 2-3 months and yet have already sold 4 and 1 million respectively. however the 360 has been out since just b4 christmas of 05 and yet its only sold 9 million
btw seems to me like everything after panthers post to the link, belongs in serious discussion lol
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Jan 11 2007, 11:43 AM


For almost all intents and purposes, the SNES was the better system.

I never had a NES or SNES, but I did have two Sega Genesis... From what I remember, those games sucked. You couldn't save on any of them, you had to do the freaking password thing every time. Not to mention how easy and simple most of the games were, anyway... And also pretty kiddy.

Now, I never played games ON the NES or SNES, but I have played games that originated on them... And those games, compared to the SEGA games, are like gods or something. They're not super short, and you have save files. The original NES and all was able to save games, right? I'm pretty sure they were, but since I never actually played them, I can't say for sure.
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not only does it have the best graphics and capabilities but it (like its predecessors)

We don't know that yet. Many experts predict that Xbox 360 and PS3 graphic capability will be similar.

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i also think that they did the right thing in trying to appeal to the fans they have already instead of being (IMO) sellouts like nintendo and microsoft who are just trying to attract everyone instead of paying attention to their loyalists.

Sony are the ones who said the PS3 is a computer. Now who did you say was staying true to their loyal gamers and not adding a bunch of stuff?

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Wii on the other hand is selling themselves out to try and appeal to everyone.

Nintendo is trying to introduce games that non-gamers can play and enjoy. Oh the horror!

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they added the internet after the popularity of the xbox and ps2 online.

Actually, the Gamecube had online capabilities too. Even the Super Nintendo had an add-on that was able to play against people all over America using a phone line.

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as far as numbers sold the 360 isnt doing all that hot if you look at it.

Double check your numbers.

PS3 was released on November 11, 2006. It sold 682,750 units by January 1, 2007.

The Xbox 360 was released on November 22, 2005. It sold 761,250 units by January 1, 2006.

The PS3 had a little more time, and it did NOT sell as well as the Xbox 360. This is even more impressive for Microsoft considering that Japanese gamers do not like the 360.

So if you don't think the Xbox 360 is doing well, then you must also think the PS3 is doing very poor.
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Jan 11 2007, 11:00 PM

So if you don't think the Xbox 360 is doing well, then you must also think the PS3 is doing very poor.

Due to the price, unfortunately enough... They had to release at the time they did in order to compete properly.

Fortunately, once they DO become able to mass produce PS3's at a lower price, there are many big fans who will be going out and getting those games. Like myself.

And personally, I'm not too worried about getting a PS3 until FFXIII comes out... Nor do I care to get a Wii until more games, like Brawl, come out. Neither of them have any games that interest me very much yet in the first place. (Except TP, which I have on GCN.)

Really, having more launch titles would've been a lot more beneficial for both of them... But of course, they just had to meet that Christmas rush, eh?
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Jan 11 2007, 07:59 PM
i also think that they did the right thing in trying to appeal to the fans they have already instead of being (IMO) sellouts like nintendo and microsoft who are just trying to attract everyone instead of paying attention to their loyalists.

4 Millions Wii sold, 1 million PS3 sold.

I don't know about you, but most people who owned a PS2 don't give a damn about the PS3. They're not going to pay 700$ for a PS3 and a couple of final fantasy games, and console that's almost the exact same as they had. Sony is losing more than 150$ on every PS3 sale. Hardcore Sony fans? Forget it. Who bought 3/4 of the PS3? People who wanted to sell them on eBay. Graphics don't make good games. They're only a plus. The PS3 may have the potential for high-quality games and all that, but it's not using it. Sony fans are all " ZOMG BLURAY DISCS". Adding that in a console doesn't make it good, and they don't seem to get it. Sony's PSP didn't work so well, there are still 3 millions PS3 sitting on the stores' shelves and nobody's buying them. Why would any store order any more from Sony since 75% of the first batch are still on their shelves? Reducing the price isn't an option for Sony. They lose more than 150$ per sale, and it's still too pricey for the average person to even WANT to buy it. They're going to remove it from market or lose money on it to the very end.

As for the loyalist thing, if you try to only keep the customers you already have, you'll be ruined before long. And how do you want to get new Sony fans when their console is made fun of and its price is ridiculously high? Unless they start releasing REALLY impressive games, and I'm not talking about another crappy KH or another FF which looks like all the others, I'm talking about revolutionnary games, the PS3 is going down.
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Yep, they had to get in for Christmas.

I haven't heard of any plans for the PS3 price to be lowered, but it would certainly help Sony to do so within 6 months if they want to sell more units.

Fullmetal
Jan 11 2007, 11:23 PM
4 Millions Wii sold, 1 million PS3 sold.

Nintendo would have sold even more if they could have made more in time. It's very hard to find a Wii in stock.

The PS3, however, is available in a few of my local stores.

And my case is the normal situation for most people right now.
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Jan 11 2007, 11:24 PM

I haven't heard of any plans for the PS3 price to be lowered, but it would certainly help Sony to do so within 6 months if they want to sell more units.

Nor have I.

But if they were to lower it pretty quickly, their sales would also shoot up pretty quickly...

Although personally, I don't plan on getting either PS3 or the Wii until next Summer.
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Yeah, I'm in the same boat. I might get a Wii some time this year, but I might not. Most of the time I just play the SNES anyway.
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The Wii will overtake the 360 soon enoguh you just watch.

And the PS3 is no worry it will flop big time =P
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Jan 12 2007, 05:09 AM
The Wii will overtake the 360 soon enoguh you just watch.

And the PS3 is no worry it will flop big time =P

Whatever you say. :rolleyes:

The 360 seems to be standing still, but I'm not a good source on that. As for the PS3... As long as Sony finds some way to produce them for cheaper within the next 6 months or so, they'll be fine. Even if the PS3 doesn't make a comeback, they DO have a ton of other things they make... Thus, chances are that whether or not the PS3 eventually fixes things up, they'll probably think something up that is better (and cheaper) anyway.
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Jan 12 2007, 05:15 AM
The 360 seems to be standing still, but I'm not a good source on that.

It may seem that way, but the Xbox 360 sold 567,500 units in November '06. The Wii sold 547,500.
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The Wii is selling out though
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The accesories for Wii are as hard to find as the system
I can't find a second controller...

some people don't want to get PS3 right away because it might have a problem
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Jan 12 2007, 08:51 PM
some people don't want to get PS3 right away because it might have a problem

The price is already a problem XD
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Jan 11 2007, 08:59 PM

Wii on the other hand is selling themselves out to try and appeal to everyone.

Does that statement make any sense?
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