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Do you still think it'd be a "gateway drug" if it was legal?


Alcohol is legal, and yet it still does the same thing, although maybe not to the same degree. I've met plenty of people who got turned onto other drugs from alcohol. It's a bit different, but it still happens. This isn't going to change if anything is legalized.

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People can have lung cancer and emphysema as much as they want, it's their body. As for secondhand smoke...I suggest you do some research. While it obviously isn't as healthy as breathing pure air, its negative effects are extremely overexaggerated. Almost all the statistics getting tossed about come from one study that was thrown out by a Federal court for being garbage. There's hardly extensive research on the issue.


It's their body, but that doesn't change the fact that it's still a big problem. I'm not saying to make them stop. There are other ways of combating that - like ads and awareness. Unfortunately, some people are just really stupid.
Whether the effects of secondhand smoke are exaggerated or not, they're still there. No matter what study you read, it's still hurting people. If a study says there's no effects at all, then I doubt it was a reliable study. Remember, just because there was a study doesn't mean it was done reliably - this applies to both sides of the matter. And in the end, whether you think it hurts people or not, if you go to the doctor, he's going to tell you to not smoke around your kids. Even if it isn't "OH MY GOD SECONDHAND SMOKE IS GOING TO KILL ME," it still hurts people.

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Even though you disagree slightly, I'm glad to hear it. My mother was almost killed by a drunk driver and I don't have the warmest place in my heart reserved for them.


It's not that I disagree, it's that no matter how you read it, the Bill of Rights would find the death penalty to be "cruel and unusual punishment" for someone who killed another from drunk driving. Even if the death penalty was in effect, there's no way we'd ever put a stupid drunk driver on death row with people who intentionally killed someone. Still, I would like drunk drivers (especially those who killed people) to get a tougher sentence than they usually do.

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Legalizing drugs will kill the black market and seriously wound the cartels. Not to mention all the lives saved.

Cops usually get in trouble when they raid the dealers or labs or something. Where the cartels have their money, in effect. I agree with your conclusion about most druggies.


Lives saved in some areas, lost in others. But anyway. Legalizing drugs isn't going to kill the black market for drugs. It will just warp it. It's going to change and find a different way to peddle drugs - develop stronger drugs if they possibly can, etc. Although I see your point, and in essence you're correct, it's not going to kill the black market for drugs.

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That was in reference to addiction, which is a logical possible result of recreational use in drugs. Addiction does not give the government the right to charge into our lives.


Good for you, but I didn't say that.

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Yes, these things are (generally) things that harm others in some way. Rape isn't okay. Me choosing to get high is my own decision and doesn't hurt anyone else unless I get behind the wheel of a vehicle.


We have a lot of laws in place to protect people from their own stupidity. Curfews for minors, for example. Or age-limitations on drugs. Regardless of where our country heads, we'll going to continue having laws like this. A purely libertarian society isn't going to happen in America any time soon.

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Hahahaha...you're joking, right? Unless you mean like "free healthcare" or something. Because last time I checked, Europe has all kinds of freedom-encroaching laws.


Depends on where you go. Some laws are "Freer," and some are "less free," I suppose you could say. On top of this, our capitalist economy is so messed up - the rich get richer and the poor get poorer, as they always say. Since in many of these other countries, people are closer in means of income, it becomes a "freer" country. Those with less money aren't tied down as much as they are here. Freedom goes outside of laws themselves.
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