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Naoko
 
Controlled, perhaps, but that doesn't change the fact that it is still what you'd call a "gateway drug," considering how much that does happen.


Do you still think it'd be a "gateway drug" if it was legal?


Naoko
 
Okay, so all the lung cancer and breathing problems aren't a problem. The fact that some of the unhealthiest cities in America became such due to the high amount of second hand smoke isn't a problem. We needs dictionary ohnoz.


People can have lung cancer and emphysema as much as they want, it's their body. As for secondhand smoke...I suggest you do some research. While it obviously isn't as healthy as breathing pure air, its negative effects are extremely overexaggerated. Almost all the statistics getting tossed about come from one study that was thrown out by a Federal court for being garbage. There's hardly extensive research on the issue.


Naoko
 
I don't know about it being considered murder, although I agree to an extent. If someone killed someone I cared about because they were stupid and idiotic enough to get behind the wheel after being stupid enough to get drunk, I'd want them locked up. Drunk driving is one of the worst offenses in this country that gets off far too easily - it's like leaving babies in cars.


Even though you disagree slightly, I'm glad to hear it. My mother was almost killed by a drunk driver and I don't have the warmest place in my heart reserved for them.

Naoko
 
Legalizing drugs won't make the first part of this any better. As for cops and druggies? We're often going about things the wrong way. Locking someone up for being addicted really isn't the way to go. These people need help more than anything else (in most cases, at least).


Legalizing drugs will kill the black market and seriously wound the cartels. Not to mention all the lives saved.

Cops usually get in trouble when they raid the dealers or labs or something. Where the cartels have their money, in effect. I agree with your conclusion about most druggies.


Naoko
 
First off, I don't get how "if they become wide-spread etc." = "oh my god government should control everyone's lives lols."


That was in reference to addiction, which is a logical possible result of recreational use in drugs. Addiction does not give the government the right to charge into our lives.


Naoko
 
Last time I checked, we still have law in this country, and there are certain things you can and cannot do.


Yes, these things are (generally) things that harm others in some way. Rape isn't okay. Me choosing to get high is my own decision and doesn't hurt anyone else unless I get behind the wheel of a vehicle.


Naoko
 
There's no such thing as a perfectly free country, and on top of that, I think it's obvious that Europe and Canada are kind of beating us at this whole free thing in so many ways lately.


Hahahaha...you're joking, right? Unless you mean like "free healthcare" or something. Because last time I checked, Europe has all kinds of freedom-encroaching laws.


Naoko
 
And really, let's not forget psychiatry. They tell people not to cut, they tell people not to be anorexic, and if you do those things and get caught, YOU GON GET LOCKED UP with a fancy jacket. Same thing goes with drugs. I wouldn't consider that to really be freedom either, but hey, what can you do?


I don't think you should get locked up unless you want to harm others somehow. Unless, of course, you want help dropping a habit and some kind of radical rehab is the only way... Anyway.


Naoko
 
No, it's not the government's business what you want to do with your body. Want to buy illegal drugs and use them? Sure, go ahead, you can. Government can't do anything about that, but they're going to go after the dude that sold it to you, and when you get addicted, they might (hopefully) send you to rehab. Whoo!


Why should they go after the guy that sold it to me? It's my money, my body, his drugs, so... what's wrong here? Sounds like a perfectly legal transaction to me. Unfortunately, it isn't for reasons beyond my knowledge.

I'm just bugged by this whole issue. We do own our bodies. We can tattoo them, we can get them fat, we can get them skinny. We can have plastic surgery, we can pull crazy death defying stunts, we can make porn with our bodies. We can smoke cigars, drink till we drop dead, and have abortions. Yet, the moment we grab that joint, we've crossed some line.

What line did we cross?
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