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FM12; Playing MLS
Topic Started: Oct 17 2011, 05:17 PM (1,588 Views)
shawn_strat
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I was wondering if there will be reserve fixtures for MLS in the upcoming edition of FM? This year MLS reserves came back. I hate having a lot of my players out of form for lack of game action.
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SaintsCanada
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MLS Reserve league is in FM12, yes.
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Uncle Sam
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I haven't started playing yet, do the academy clubs generate newgens this year?
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looknohands
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It's supposed to. Thought I saw a changelist in one of the US threads...

Went through the DB and changed all of the staff with 0 or -1 PA to -6 (a few former pros got a -7). Sound reasonable?

I also went through the Mexican first division and knocked every team down 500 reputation points. Bottom teams are now MLS-quality, while the big ones are still about 800 points higher than all but LA and NY. Made for some competitive CCL matches last year!
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Uncle Sam
Oct 22 2011, 05:49 AM
I haven't started playing yet, do the academy clubs generate newgens this year?

In FM12, each year, MLS clubs automatically receive their academy graduates on AA contracts.

I'm not sure if the academies are bringing in a new intake class each year though. I'm just checking right now and maybe they don't. :( Bring it up on the si forums. I think things will actually get fixed this year.

In general, we're WAY further forward in development and coding for MLS than we were on 11.1 -- probably further forward than we were on 11.3! They hired a dedicated MLS coder this year.
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Kevus
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am i the only one who find Coach job aren't safe at all in MLS on this FM lol
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Uncle Sam
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I was aware of the new coder. I just saw they added the Development Academy league and hoped that would mean a new stream of US players.
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SaintsCanada
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I'm having trouble figuring out if there's a new academy intake each year or not. When I soak a couple seasons, TFC academy doesn't seem to have any transfer history at all. They start with 37 players, and despite giving players each year to TFC, they still have 37 players after two seasons -- but a lot of the players are now 20 years old, etc. And when I check the player histories of the youngest players, they all seem to have 2 seasons at TFC academy in their history?!
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The academy sides dont populate so much as, is stated above, your team will 'graduate' 0-4 guys per season (based on a lot of factors) on AA deals. Some are betetr than others, of course. You can then keep them, trade them or release them as you see fit.

The USSF Academy League being "in' is a stretch, we've started to officially add in the clubs, but without testing it with a full US XML down to that level I'm not sure how it will play. I hope it will populate the PDL (or NCAA if we go that route again) sides and thus careers can start as youth players before going to college and then being drafted/turning pro. We'll have to suck it and see, but the AA players and the Academy division are bvery much mutually exclusive this version.

Next year the academies will be much more indepth, but this was the best way to do it this year (similar to how it is in most other leagues to be fair).
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shawn_strat
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Aljarov
Oct 23 2011, 06:30 PM
The academy sides dont populate so much as, is stated above, your team will 'graduate' 0-4 guys per season (based on a lot of factors) on AA deals. Some are betetr than others, of course. You can then keep them, trade them or release them as you see fit.

The USSF Academy League being "in' is a stretch, we've started to officially add in the clubs, but without testing it with a full US XML down to that level I'm not sure how it will play. I hope it will populate the PDL (or NCAA if we go that route again) sides and thus careers can start as youth players before going to college and then being drafted/turning pro. We'll have to suck it and see, but the AA players and the Academy division are bvery much mutually exclusive this version.

Next year the academies will be much more indepth, but this was the best way to do it this year (similar to how it is in most other leagues to be fair).

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similar to how it is in most other leagues to be fair


Does that mean that I can send players back and forth anytime, and create friendly fixtures for my academy? I hate playing MLS since there are always 5-8 players that get nearly no match fitness.
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shawn_strat
Oct 24 2011, 10:29 AM
Aljarov
Oct 23 2011, 06:30 PM
The academy sides dont populate so much as, is stated above, your team will 'graduate' 0-4 guys per season (based on a lot of factors) on AA deals.  Some are betetr than others, of course.  You can then keep them, trade them or release them as you see fit.

The USSF Academy League being "in' is a stretch, we've started to officially add in the clubs, but without testing it with a full US XML down to that level I'm not sure how it will play.  I hope it will populate the PDL (or NCAA if we go that route again) sides and thus careers can start as youth players before going to college and then being drafted/turning pro.  We'll have to suck it and see, but the AA players and the Academy division are bvery much mutually exclusive this version.

Next year the academies will be much more indepth, but this was the best way to do it this year (similar to how it is in most other leagues to be fair).

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similar to how it is in most other leagues to be fair


Does that mean that I can send players back and forth anytime, and create friendly fixtures for my academy? I hate playing MLS since there are always 5-8 players that get nearly no match fitness.

Yes you could send them there on loan, in theory, but you have an MLS reserve side this year to help with fitness.

Personally, I'd find an affiliate at a higher level to loan them to in order to help them develop at a higher level.
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looknohands
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Al,
Is there a reason why TFC academy players are rated so low in terms of CA? With a CA of 32, can they really reach their full potential (-6 or -7)? How much does a 16 or 17 y.o. usually progress in a year?
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looknohands
Oct 25 2011, 11:57 PM
Al,
Is there a reason why TFC academy players are rated so low in terms of CA? With a CA of 32, can they really reach their full potential (-6 or -7)? How much does a 16 or 17 y.o. usually progress in a year?

I wasn't in charge of the Canadian DB this year, though the person that was really dropped that ball (after taking on Canadian HR role, he got a new job and it got away from him).

The TFC Academy and the overall functionality of the MLS academies are mutually exclusive, so guys 'promoted from the academy' wont be anyone actually on the TFCA roster in the game, if that makes sense....

Still, CA32 is on the low side, but that's not all of them by any means, and more over the TFCA got pretty much plundered this season with 6 graduated now it's hard to imagine there's an awful lot more quality in there right now (especially with Aleman leaving who was easily the best player in their system). There's also two other ex-TFC academy players in MLS as well (Teibert at Van and Janniere at Colorado).
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SaintsCanada
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Wow, we're lightyears ahead of 11.1. Even 11.3. This might go down as the best FM ever -- both in general and for MLS.
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Kevus
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Does the MLS got a way higher rep this year ? I mean , Seattle offered me a job while I was coaching in French L1 in 2014 . France L1 is top 5 Europe
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