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Age; How old are the characters?
Topic Started: Apr 6 2016, 11:02 PM (371 Views)
Reginald Konga
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I was working on my continuation of the story, and I came into a dilemna. I don't know the Eds' exact ages, and I don't know which characters are older than others. I don't want to explain the exact reason why until I release at least some of the story, but I will say it would be helpful to know if Kevin was older than Rolf, for example.

At the beginning of the series, it was implied that the Eds were pre-teens or teens and Jimmy and Sarah were in 1st or 2nd grade. Jonny seemed to be a couple years younger than Nazz, who serves as a bridge between these younger kids and the older kids (the Eds, Kevin, the Kanker Sisters and Rolf). However, in Season 5, it was revealed that all twelve members of the cast (excluding Plank, Eddy's brother, the adults whose arms we see, Scoot, and the various inanimate objects resembling Plank) go to Junior High. Junior High, at least in the United States, refers to 7th and 8th Grades for sure, but sometimes include 6th grade, which is not quite elementary school and not quite Junior High. (At my school, we have grade 5-8 in one school, but my county's government is a mess.)

I use the terms "1st grade" and "2nd grade" because I'm pretty sure the series takes place in the United States as we all know Ed proclaims, "Canadians are weird!" as well as the subtle hints I've picked up over the years. Please correct me if I'm wrong on that. Also, let's not get into a discussion about which state just yet. I do want to discuss that soon enough, but do try to keep me on topic if I trail off.

There are no birthdays listed anywhere because... well, I assume that Danny didn't think anyone would really care. So, let's address what we know for sure as well as what we're pretty sure of...

1.) Sarah would have to be at least somewhat significantly younger than Ed as Ed frequently refers to her as "baby sister." My guess is that Sarah is two or three years younger than Ed. If she were only a year younger than Ed, Ed likely wouldn't remember Sarah being his "baby sister." (This is Ed we're talking about, but I think Sarah would at least comment on her only be X months younger than Ed if this was the case). If she were several years younger than Ed, she wouldn't be seen at Peach Creek Jr. High. Up until I began questioning all of this, I assumed Ed was the oldest child of the cul-de-sac at age being about 14 years old in 8th grade while Sarah is about 11 in 6th grade, as of Season 5.

2.) Jimmy is about Sarah's age, but we have no confirmation of that. We do know that his birthday takes place in the summer as evidenced by "In Like Ed" where the Eds ruin Jimmy's birthday party.

3.) Eddy's ID in "Your Ed Here" states he is twelve as of the day the ID was made. His growth chart in "A Pinch to Grow an Ed" says he is eleven (albeit he could be twelve as the marking labeled "Age 11" was made prior to the episode).

4.) Lee, being the leader of the Kanker Sisters is presumably the oldest, and May is presumably the youngest, unless there's some confirmation of this or an official word to the contrary.

5.) We see the Kanker Sisters' father's robes. However, it is not confirmed these are the biological fathers of the Kanker Sisters. It's likely that the absence of their fathers was not just due to the rule of "no parents to be shown," but rather, it was due to a divorce or an unplanned pregnancy. Since this is my story we're talking about, let's assume it was a divorce since I wouldn't be able to talk about that stuff with a K+ rating. Considering the adult cartoons Mr. Antonucci is responsible for, I wouldn't put it past him, but I would prefer not to make the fan fiction rated Fiction T. Onward, it is not confirmed that Butch, Bubba, and Rod are Lee, Marie, and May's biological fathers. It is possible that they were just father figures the Kankers had prior to moving to Peach Creek. I once argued in the past that they could very well just be three random men, meaning the Kankers just stole their robes at one point and claimed they were their dads. We'll stick to Canon, but this is a possibility.

I bring this up because it's assumed that the Kanker Sisters are not triplets. In a private message on fan fiction, Purple once argued that they can't be triplets due to their different colored hair. Although I didn't want to argue this at the time, are we really concerned about genetics in a show where a boy can support his weight using only his tongue? I'm not going to argue whether they are or are not triplets just yet, but we cannot rule out this possibility. Onward, if they're not triplets there would obviously have to be nine months between their respective dates of birth, making May at least a year and a half younger than Lee.

Assumptions

I assume these days that the first four seasons didn't take place during the same summer. Since Kevin boasted about his large collection of jawbreakers and since Eddy complained about missing out on this deal "again," I can only assume that Season 1 and 2 took place during one summer, and Season 3 and 4 took place during the next. Eddy was 11 at the start of "A Pinch to Grow an Ed," but he aged to 12 prior to "Your Ed Here."

Thus far, I have to assume this is the correct order of the characters (excluding the Kanker Sisters since that requires too many assumptions at the moment) from oldest to youngest: Ed, Rolf, Kevin, Double D, Nazz, Eddy, Jonny, Jimmy, Sarah. Why is Sarah the youngest? Because Jimmy aged prior to the beginning of a school year as mentioned above.

I was wondering if anyone had any other evidence to support a more accurate way of determining the characters' ages. Please don't be afraid to post if you disagree about something.

I have a lot of ideas for the story, but it goes into too many topics to discuss here. If any of you would like to hear them, feel free to send me a PM.
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Waffles
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I assume most of the kids are twelve, Jimmy and Sarah might be closer to eight or nine, and I've always thought Rolf was a year or so older than the others, which would make him thirteen.

Some episodes could take place on the same day as others. That, or it runs on "cartoon time" and we're not really supposed to question it. Maybe the series takes place over the course of one summer and the beginning of a school year, maybe not.
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I always figured the Eds, Kevin and Nazz were twelve, Jonny was eleven, Sarah and Jimmy were eight (i like the idea of Sarah being younger than Jimmy), the Kankers were thirteen, (fraternal triplets??) and if not then at least Lee the oldest and May the youngest, Rolf was fourteen, and Bro late teens/early twenties. Sarah and Jimmy were in a part of the school that had cubbies, I assume Peach Creek Jr high is a school with junior and elementary classes. Easier to draw one school then have two.
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Reginald Konga
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Sorry, I was out of town all day, but I did have a great time! I should probably get some sleep before replying, but eh...

TrapEds,Apr 8 2016
12:04 AM
I always figured the Eds, Kevin and Nazz were twelve, Jonny was eleven, Sarah and Jimmy were eight (i like the idea of Sarah being younger than Jimmy),  the Kankers were thirteen, (fraternal triplets??) and if not then at least Lee the oldest and May the youngest, Rolf was fourteen, and Bro late teens/early twenties. Sarah and Jimmy were in a part of the school that had cubbies, I assume Peach Creek Jr high is a school with junior and elementary classes. Easier to draw one school then have two.


Well, assuming the series doesn't take place in "Who Gives a S***" land with AOSTH Robotnik, that really cannot be right. I was taught about this in an Introduction to Teaching class, and Jr. High definitely refers to 7th and 8th grade and possibly 6th grade. If the school has any basis in the reality of the American school system (which, despite huge tongues and Ed being able to lift a house is at least true based on various pieces of evidence). You are presumably right that they didn't want to worry about Sarah and Jimmy being in a different class. (On a side note, Jimmy being eleven years old is the reason I think "Tinker Ed" is so cruel––eleven-year-olds shouldn't believe in Cinderella being true. In fact, I don't even think most Fairy Tales are appropriate for children considering how dark some of them are, especially Ashputtle, the original Cinderella.)

They really cannot be eight or nine because most kids attending the 6th grade (assuming they're not in 7th grade) are eleven or twelve. Given the requirement that children must be a certain age before being enrolled in a public school, they most likely couldn't have started Kindergarten any earlier than age three. It's just too abnormal for eight-year-olds to be attending sixth or seventh grade without some sort of exposition like :ed "Jimmy's real advanced for his age."

I kind of had the theory of Fraternal Triplets too when I wrote the original manuscript for Ed, Edd n Eddy The Sweet Escape, which was probably the worst thing I've ever put on paper. Again, I don't agree with worrying about genetics for hair given that Double D has rarely (if ever) addressed this as being true in-universe. This is the show where the characters broke the sky after all.

Waffles is at least somewhat right that the creators intended the show to run on Cartoon time in which one summer lasted from 1999 to 2005. However, I have to interpret all of this somehow.

The Eds were also seen as Toddlers in "Every Which Way But Ed" where we saw the Eds meet after Double D move into the neighborhood. In the episode where Eddy's brother is supposed coming home, Kevin, Rolf, Nazz, and possibly Jonny had not met Eddy's Brother, and this is pretty much confirmed in the show.

My theory is this: Eddy's Brother "went away" (to either college or a real job) shortly after the Eds met. Before he did, Kevin saw some older kids talking about Eddy's Brother where he heard all these stories. Eddy's Brother then gave Kevin some sort of wedgie and left without bothering to learn Kevin's name. Double D never got the chance to meet Eddy's Brother since he had just moved in, and Ed likely completely forgot due to the rule of funny.

While we're at it, when did the Big Picture Show take place? Was it spring or a new Summer? We clearly saw the seasons progress from Autumn to Winter between Season 5 and the unfinished Season 6 (the Lost Episode). I get the impression is was supposed to be a new summer because, if I'm not mistaken, we see a kiddy pool in the beginning.

So, here's how I interpret all of this.

Fourteen as of sometime in Season 5 & 6
Rolf
Ed
Lee (assuming the Kanker Sisters are not fraternal triplets)

Thirteen as of sometime in Season 5 & 6
(The Kanker Sisters assuming they're fraternal triplets)
Kevin
Double D
Marie (assuming the Kanker Sisters are not fraternal triplets)
Eddy
Nazz
Jonny
May? (assuming the Kanker Sisters are not fraternal triplets)

Twelve as of "Take This Ed and Shove It"
Jimmy

Eleven but almost Twelve as of "Out With the Old, In With the Ed"
Sarah

(I switched Eddy and Nazz since girls typically date guys at least somewhat older than they are.)

I know I'm pulling the evidence thin here, but what do you guys think? Am I missing something here?
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ITT: Trap found out that she's supposed to be attracted to older men. She was quite surprised.

For my part, I don't really worry about the evidence and stuff when it comes to kid's ages. As long as I have Sarah and Jimmy be a little younger than the rest of the kids, and maybe the Kankers be a little older, I don't think it matters too much for the purposes of a fanfic how old everybody is.

But, for what it's worth, I have the ages as:

Kankers: 15 (the result of heteropaternal superfecundation, whereby they are all fraternal triplets).
Kevin, Nazz & Rolf: 14
Eds: 12
Jonny: 11
Sarah & Jimmy: 9

Eddy's Brother: Too old to be shipped with any of the other characters. To be honest, I haven't really thought about his age that much.
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PurpleVision,Apr 8 2016
07:06 AM
ITT: Trap found out that she's supposed to be attracted to older men. She was quite surprised.

For my part, I don't really worry about the evidence and stuff when it comes to kid's ages. As long as I have Sarah and Jimmy be a little younger than the rest of the kids, and maybe the Kankers be a little older, I don't think it matters too much for the purposes of a fanfic how old everybody is.

But, for what it's worth, I have the ages as:

Kankers: 15 (the result of heteropaternal superfecundation, whereby they are all fraternal triplets).
Kevin, Nazz & Rolf: 14
Eds: 12
Jonny: 11
Sarah & Jimmy: 9

Eddy's Brother: Too old to be shipped with any of the other characters. To be honest, I haven't really thought about his age that much.

There were some specific reasons why the ages were brought into question, but it involves some plot lines I don't want to spoil right now. I would really like to get the earlier chapters done before talking about the later ones. I hope that makes sense and doesn't come across as rude. :)

As for the comment about Trap, uh, sorry. I meant girls tend to go out with guys a few months to a full year older when they're in high school. Sorry. :/

Also, I had no idea that the heteropaternal superfecundation was real thing. That's pretty cool.
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I didn't mean to present my ages as some sort of canon that you should follow, so apologies if I came across that way. I think that you'd be all right with any ages that work for your story, as long as you kept them consistent and at least conceivably the same as what we see on the show (which is more of a problem than it sounds, as you've already found I think).

Sorry about bringing Trap into this. I'd meant it as a light-hearted joke, but if either of you would like I can edit it out.

And, yeah, heteropaternal superfecundation is awesome. It's also kind of necessary for the twisting that I need to go through to get the Kankers' ages to work for my story. :sweatdrop
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PurpleVision,Apr 8 2016
11:02 AM
I didn't mean to present my ages as some sort of canon that you should follow, so apologies if I came across that way. I think that you'd be all right with any ages that work for your story, as long as you kept them consistent and at least conceivably the same as what we see on the show (which is more of a problem than it sounds, as you've already found I think).

Sorry about bringing Trap into this. I'd meant it as a light-hearted joke, but if either of you would like I can edit it out.

And, yeah, heteropaternal superfecundation is awesome. It's also kind of necessary for the twisting that I need to go through to get the Kankers' ages to work for my story. :sweatdrop

No, worries. You didn't make it sound like you thought your ages for the kids were canon. :)

As for the other thing, I just thought maybe you were mad about my comment on girls dating guys who were a year older.

I really don't have much time to reply to this though. I must be going now. Sorry.
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