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| Ed And His Mental Eye; Food for thought. | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: May 7 2011, 09:14 PM (308 Views) | |
| Colton O'Weekly | May 7 2011, 09:14 PM Post #1 |
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We all know that in Boo Haw Haw, Ed sees the other kids as monsters. This is far from the first point of worrying about Ed's vision of reality, you can worry about it as far back as Dawn of the Ed if you want. But, this is one of the more interesting cases. Ed's visions? In a list. The characters, then how Ed sees them, then if they dressed up or not: 1. The Kankers as witches. Didn't dress up. 2. Jimmy, as an alien. Dressed up. 3. Sarah, as a vampire. Dressed up. 4. Nazz, as Medusa. Dressed up. 5. Kevin, as the headless horseman. Didn't dress up. 6. Jonny, as a spider. Dressed up. 7. Rolf, as an ogre/troll/cyclops. Didn't dress up. 8. Plank as Frankenplank. Did he once see the other two Eds as monsters? No. In fact, they are the only characters he sees as normal, besides (presumably) himself. What is the reason for this? Is it just a "It's a cartoon" reason, or a "for the plot" reason? Or, is it that Ed is afraid of the other characters in one form or another? The Kankers, Sarah, and Kevin make sense for him to be afraid of. Jimmy, Nazz, Jonny, Rolf, and Plank, though, he has little to no reason to fear them. In fact, Ed has been shown to be at least on some level of friendship with Jimmy, Jonny, Rolf, and Plank. This would be from the fact that they at least get along with him and have had experiences that weren't bad between them as much as with the other characters. To my knowledge, it doesn't once show Edd and Eddy in his nightmare vision, until the end where he throws them down the hole, and even then, that's physical contact with them. Is there a reason that he doesn't see Edd and Eddy in his nightmarish visions of reality? When Sarah as the vampire leaps at him, and Edd and Eddy are CLEARLY right next to him, he still does not see them in nightmare vision, even if they would be in normal form like himself. It could just be a "for the plot" mistake or overlook, but it's also possible that there's a reason for this. Ed has been shown to be excellent at make believe, such as in Dawn of the Ed with him as the monster. Yet, even then, he hunted Edd and Eddy. In Boo Haw Haw, he saw Edd and Eddy only when the world seemed normally. It could be dismissed as a simple plot-related or production-related oversight, but it's also possible to be a message. What could the message be? I do not know. I am thinking it has something to do with his mental eye being off, more than shown usually. Not just as a warped reality, but a reality warped to his liking. A reality where he sees nightmares everywhere; but not the other two Eds. Something that is incredibly odd for such a kid. Because even in horror movies, there are more than one victim - so what is the reason that Ed only sees the monsters and himself, until the very end when they go into the hole? Or is it just that no one thought about it during production? |
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| AnimatEd | May 8 2011, 04:48 AM Post #2 |
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That is a neat idea that Ed feels threatened by everyone else so he makes them villains in his mind, but I think Edd and Eddy were more likely playing roles in the movie in Ed's mind. They were Lothar's traveling companions and Eddy fed Ed the plot that "Lothar has to get Zombie Elvis and the germ to Spook-E-Ville." They were kind of like nice monsters in his mind, the same way he didn't see himself as a real viking in his visions. Or maybe it's because they all got into their costumes together, so he was aware that they were just his friends in costume. You may have a point though, since he didn't make Jonny a villain, just a misunderstood creature. That made it seem like Ed kind of had some deep insight on Jonny's character. Plank being the biggest monster could also be a scary premonition of Plank's powers. XD
'Dawn of the Eds' is the season 1 episode where they find the junkyard and Ed imagines it's an alien planet. That still fits the topic, though, because he saw Sarah and Jimmy (and the Kankers) as monsters, and the Eds and Kevin as space rangers. You were describing 'The Day the Ed Stood Still', which is an interesting twist on his movie vision... Everyone but him is a victim in his mind there, so I'm not sure how that could fit.
I kinda feel like the movie was already over in his mind so there was no other room in the plot for monsters, so it turned into some kind of... flower movie. I think Ed in BHH seems schizophrenic... I guess he just has an overactive imagination but.. he never snapped out of it, so it seems more serious. |
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| Colton O'Weekly | May 9 2011, 01:31 AM Post #3 |
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Ohhhh okay. I always mix those two up ^^' They both fit though, really. Although it could fit in with them being victims because with him being a "monster", he's giving himself a mental power up kinda. Like, he mentally gave himself "steroids" so he was strong enough to turn the tables on them, so then he didn't fear them - they feared him. And he played the role out. Possible.
True, but at the same time, the cliche of horror movies is that the monster isn't truly dead (And I'd assume those would be Ed's type of movies, where the monster just comes back...). It could also be, that he stops seeing them as monsters because they stopped being a threat to him since they were too busy with Edd and Eddy (I could go on, about how unfair the kids were towards Edd and Eddy, but I digress.) As for schizophrenia, that's kinda what it somewhat seems like. |
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| AnimatEd | May 9 2011, 08:14 PM Post #4 |
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Maybe! Does that explain his inclusion of Edd and Eddy as victims, though? I guess it could support my theory that his visions depend on the plot in his head. The other times, they were movies about a team of good guys having to battle their way through strange new lands, but this time it's very simple monster premise so he had to stay in-character and KILL EVERYONE.
Maybe Ed didn't finish watching Lothar's movie and didn't realize how big of a plothole it is for the movie to end with Lothar and his companions hiding from the enemies. XD As far as he knows, it was all flowers and rainbows for the rest of Lothar's life. And/or, maybe with his movie plot done, Ed just went to his happy place and whenever he mentions his happy place in the show, he's imagining everyone rolling in flowers. |
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| PurpleVision | May 9 2011, 10:26 PM Post #5 |
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I had 9p, only to let it slip away.
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I always thought it was a Don Quixote homage, only Ed doesn't recover. The reason that Edd and Eddy don't show up in his visions is because the visions are focused on the dramatic battles with Lothar's enemies, and nobody cares about the damsels in distress or the squires or any of the other side characters in those scenes. And, as for why he didn't notice they were hiding at the end, that's because the story ends with him defeating all of the monsters and retiring to his home. So I wouldn't say it was a horror movie at all, but more of a heroic fantasy schlockfest. |
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