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| Mapping Out: Peach Creek As A Whole; It's no longer about the school anymore | |
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| AnimatEd | Jun 8 2010, 05:30 PM Post #161 |
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OOH OOH OOH! FUN FACT! I learned this while trying to squeeze every important school location into my movie: the door to the music room is seen in the little area where Sarah and Jimmy were doing homework in 'Too Smart For His Own Ed'! This location also had bathrooms and Sarah and Jimmy's cubbies from 'All Eds Are Off'. So if you walked further down the cubby hallway in 'AEAO', then you'd hit the music room hallway (it looked like a dead end rather than a hallway, though...). The Art room may have also been in this hallway, I don't remember... 'Smile for the Ed' would say the Art room is visible from Eddy's locker, though... As for the Happy Clucker's Club, I think that was in the science lab from 'HPH', although I don't remember seeing the long tables from HPH there in Fistful. Ed claims to have found Eddy pretending to be a stuffed beaver in the science lab in 'This Won't Hurt an Ed' and Eddy was seen sneaking into a class a little ways down from the nurse's office, so maybe that's the science lab? I think Ed was seen walking down the gym hallway to deliver Eddy, though, so maybe Eddy changed his hiding place a few times before getting to the science lab. I'd generally just say that these things are random classrooms, though. The hallways are filled with classroom doors and opening any door could reveal any classroom, because all the hallways look pretty much identical. |
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| Kirkland22 | Jun 8 2010, 07:53 PM Post #162 |
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Really? I need to watch those episodes again, but in the meantime can you get me a few screenshots if it's not too much of a hassle?
I hadn't thought about this. Yeah, I doubt that the Happy Clucker's Club would have its own room, and you're probably right that it's most likely shared as the science lab. Also, this might be a useless question, but you know that little nook in the library from the episode "Tinker Ed" where Sarah and Jimmy are reading fairy tales? Well, I'm wondering, do we ever see an indentation on the outside of the school where this little nook jolts out from the building? If we do, then that might tell us where the library is located within the school. |
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| AnimatEd | Jun 8 2010, 09:02 PM Post #163 |
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Here's a bunch of shots from the scene. You can see the music room, bathrooms, cubbies, and I was wrong about the art room. I can't really tell what the other room says, though. Might be Primary Economics, but that seems really weird/advanced for an elementary/junior high. Posted Image
There's actually a little corridor on the other side of that room that fills out that back section of the library, so there's no need for a jutting out area on the outside of the school. This corridor is briefly given screentime when Rolf hides back there with his load of bologna. And even when we don't get to see the corridor, you can tell that signs on the right wall of the library are being cut off by the wall behind Kev and Rolf when they were reading, suggesting that this right wall goes back further than it looks. But in any case, no, the school is composed of three perfect rectangles (one is for the 2nd floor in the main building, it's not clear why this floor is apparantly smaller than the first floor.) |
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| Kirkland22 | Jun 8 2010, 10:01 PM Post #164 |
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Thanks for the screenshots. And yeah, I'm surprised that they have Primary Economics as a course in a Jr. High/Elementary school. XD
Ah, you're right, I saw that corridor area when I watched 'Tinker Ed' again. Also, do we know what class is seen at the beginning of 'Cool Hand Ed' when Jonny enters the school? It's located on the right side of the school from the front, I think, but I'm not sure what class it is. Do you have any idea? |
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| AnimatEd | Jun 8 2010, 10:43 PM Post #165 |
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I think that was just a generic class... Maybe social studies or astronomy? It had a "Save Mr. Earth" poster and a framed picture of the moon. I think when I was that young, though, classrooms were multipurpose. Edd had pencils, a calculator, various measuring devices, and his notebook was full of pie charts and squares, so that seems like it's most likely a science class or a math class. Hmmm... and now I see a poster with a bunch of different graphs. It could still go either way, but it probably makes more sense for it to be science because this room could be their lecture class and the lab is for their lab days, or the lab is for a different type of science and this is for something like astronomy. Because we see the math class in 'Mission Ed-possible' and 'Truth or Ed' and it looks a lot different. If I remember correctly, it's yellow and has a random poster of all the different sections of meat on a pig. XD I should also point out that that the school was a lot longer in that opening shot than it normally is. XP And a fun fact: if someone had a high quality version of the episode, they'd probably be able to read the name of the teacher running that class. I was once able to make out "Mr. Bo[illegible letters]" on the plaque that's visible when Edd shushes Eddy. Extra thing: I'm looking at how the Eds got to the track field in Cool Hand Ed, and it looks like they went through a very off-model version of the back of the school (the main building is on the wrong side of the gym building and I don't think there's usually two gym doors at the back of the gym building), even though overhead shots show it being on the side of the school. |
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| Kirkland22 | Jun 8 2010, 11:42 PM Post #166 |
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I doubt it's the math class, but I guess it could be the science class. Maybe you're right about it being a multipurpose room.
Huh, I noticed this also. Is there a screenshot of the lobby/entrance to the school? I guess you could find one in "Out with the Old…". I'd like to get a good understanding of how the front section of the school looks. |
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| AnimatEd | Jun 8 2010, 11:59 PM Post #167 |
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I don't have one on me, but yeah, that episode and 'Pick an Ed' have a lot of the front lobby. 'Pick an Ed' also tells us that Home Ec is the floor above the Eds' lockers, most likely in the main building. And I just looked at Cool Hand Ed, so now I know that the Eds were on the GYM roof, and that the Library/janitor's closet hallway is on the 2nd floor of the gym building. We also see across from the school, which is consistent with MIHTE and Run Ed Run saying that there's woods over there. But now I'm mad because I'm realizing that the Eds flew towards the back of the school, but when they were propelled into the school at the end, they crashed into the front of the building instead of the back of the building. DX |
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| Kirkland22 | Jun 9 2010, 10:26 PM Post #168 |
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Sorry it took me so long to reply. Had to get two teeth pulled today. DX How about the location of the cafeteria? I know it's seen in a lot of episodes, but I'm not sure where exactly it is in the school. Ideas or theories? |
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| AnimatEd | Jun 10 2010, 12:22 AM Post #169 |
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Ouch! DX Feel better! I think it's on the second or third floor of the gymnasium building. As we've already clarified, the entire first floor of that building is the gym, and although it seems weird to me for the cafeteria to be the high up, there doesn't seem to be enough room in the main building either. And there actually might be a sign by the stairwell in one episode (possibly 'Out With the Old...') that points up the stairs indicating that the Cafeteria's on the next floor. It's also suggested by how far Jonny fell in 'A Fistful of Ed' that the cafeteria's high up. |
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| Kirkland22 | Jun 10 2010, 01:33 PM Post #170 |
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Thanks, I feel better now. :)
Huh, I never thought the cafeteria would be upstairs. Remember in 'A Fistful of Ed', when Jonny was flung into the wall of the cafeteria and crashed through it to the outside, he was at ground level. If the cafeteria was on a second or third level, Jonny would have fallen down to the ground level. Also, in 'This Won't Hurt An Ed' and some other episodes, after Ed and Eddy walk out of the cafeteria, they're in the hallways with the lockers, which is on the first level, I think. |
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| AnimatEd | Jun 10 2010, 04:33 PM Post #171 |
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That's good!
Jonny was flung through the wall and into either the top or the center of a tall tree and then fell from there down to ground level, so I think that DOES suggest a higher floor. And I think Rolf was near tree-tops when he threw the cupids out of the cafeteria window in HPH...
Hallways with lockers are on EVERY floor, that's why it's so hard to map everything out. XD |
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| Kirkland22 | Jun 10 2010, 05:42 PM Post #172 |
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Indeed, thanks for caring! Of course, I do have to get braces on next week... Oh well. :/
Really? Well, in this screenshot, if you look out the windows you can see the ground on level with the cafeteria: Posted Image But then again, you may be right that it's on another level, it's hard to know for sure. XP
Haha, that's true, but I kinda figured the ones seen in 'This Won't Hurt an Ed' were on the first floor. |
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| AnimatEd | Jun 10 2010, 07:17 PM Post #173 |
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Hmmm, that IS a confusing picture... The camera is kinda high in it, though and it may be showing far in the distance. If it's ground level, that red-leaved tree on the left would be really short. And they appear to be almost at the top of the tree Jonny crashes into, so that seems pretty tall to me... And Jonny still had a long way to fall, but in 'May I Have This Ed', we see that windows on the first floor are very close to the ground. ...MIHTE may not be a canon representation of that closet/library area, come to think of it, because unless that was a different janitor's closet than the library one, then that should've been the second floor, not the first floor... What floor do we think the Eds' lockers are on? If HPH's library is in continuity with Cool Hand Ed's library, then they should be on the second floor, and I think the Eds had to go to the second floor of the main building to get to a hallway with lockers in 'Out With the Old...' It could be argued that these were not their lockers, but the Eds hid from the Kankers in Rolf's locker, along the hallway that led to the homeroom postings. THIS IS SO CONFUSING, WE SHOULD'VE KNOWN BETTER THAN TO ATTEMPT TO MAKE SENSE OF THEIR SCHOOL. DX |
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| Kirkland22 | Jun 10 2010, 07:35 PM Post #174 |
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Yeah, confusing and for some reason, it's not full-size like most of my other screenshots. I'll have to re-post it once I figure out why ImageShack didn't let me upload it full-size. And I don't think that red looking thing is a tree, I think it's a bush.
Personally, I think the lockers are on the first floor, but I could be wrong. I need to watch 'Out With the Old in With the Ed' again, as it's been almost two months since I've seen it last. =O Once I watch it again, I might be able to give a better answer to this question.
Haha, no kiddin'. XD And this thread is supposed to be about the outside areas, but I suppose it was necessary to talk about the school in order to KEEP THIS THREAD ALIVE. |
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| AnimatEd | Jun 10 2010, 09:38 PM Post #175 |
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I think you took the wrong link, you have to take the "Direct" URL they give you.
It's possible, but I've never seen a bush in EEnE be visible through a window before. It's always just trees.
That's probably another thing that changes each episode. I know they're able to go straight to an exit from their lockers sometimes, sometimes through the main lobby, and I think there've been a few back exits (canon or not). But then there's other times they seem to be on the second floor, and that also makes sense because with so many lockers in the school, it seems too perfect for them to be on the first floor. And I think HPH shows Rolf, Kev, and Nazz in in their own small little locker hallway, separate from the others, but then other episodes show them in the same hallway as the Eds. And I guess the Kankers are supposed to be in the opposite hallway, to reflect how they're the only main characters who don't live on the cul-de-sac.
I don't think it HAS to be about the outside. Mapping out PC as a whole can mean inside AND out! And sometimes we even try to map out towns that aren't PC. XD |
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| Kirkland22 | Jun 10 2010, 10:02 PM Post #176 |
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Aha, you are right, as usual, so here's that screenshot again: Posted Image
Interesting, I haven't paid attention to this. But you're probably right, though I do recall seeing bushes in many episodes, even through windows.
Yeah, the whole locker situation is so very unanswerable that we shouldn't bother trying to find an answer for it. XD I mean, in practically EVERY episode that shows the lockers, the kids do not have the same locker each time.
You're right, you're right. This thread is a lot of fun and I am learning some new things too. Keep up the great responses, and hopefully Driveus will join us again soon. :) |
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| AnimatEd | Jun 10 2010, 10:52 PM Post #177 |
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Well, yeah, I've seen bushes in EEnE. XD But I don't think I've seen any through windows, especially ones that look so much like the trees in the background. And look at how small that fence is outside the window... The way it's getting closer to the school, it seems pretty low.
And come to think of it, this is another time that we can at least be thankful that all the kids at least have official locker designs, so even if the locker they open wasn't where it was last time, it at least needs to look the same on the inside as it did last time. And I just love the way the lockers, at least the Eds' and I think Rolf's, are colored like the characters' rooms on the inside.
Indeed! Though I feel bad that this thread is pretty much all the activity in the EEnE section of the forum. XD |
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| Kirkland22 | Jun 10 2010, 11:00 PM Post #178 |
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I'm sure there are some seen through windows, but it would take me hours and hours to go through the episodes looking for frames to take screenshots of, so I guess it's not really worth it. (yeah, I know, I'm lazy).
True, true. Though the location of the lockers is more important than the design inside them, but I guess their real placements are not known for sure. :/
Yeah, there's not a lot of EEnE discussion outside this thread. Maybe I'll start a new thread about something else in the EEnE-world with hopes that the others will join in the discussion. Question: Where is the cooking class located within the school? Do we even know? |
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| AnimatEd | Jun 11 2010, 01:07 AM Post #179 |
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I skimp out on screenshots even when I know what episode to look for. XP But I think we maaay have seen a bush through Ed's living room window... I dunno, I may just think that because I love his living room window, they almost always draw the world outside it even though they don't usually do that for other windows.
Do you mean realistically/to you? Because the design seems like it would be of more importance to the artists because it needs to look recognizable to the viewers. And normal viewers don't care about the canon placement of things, so it makes sense that they wouldn't bother to nail down where these things are.
'Pick An Ed' shows the Eds walking from the cooking class to... I think their lockers, but I don't remember. If I remember correctly, then it's the floor above their lockers, making that one of those episodes that supports their lockers being on the first floor of the main building. Buuuut it's also not crazy canon because later Eddy runs from the water fountain on the second floor to the front lobby's Lost and Found, but the direction he runs from would make it so he ran in the front doors of the school. I just rewatched 'A Fistful of Ed' and noticed that there are A LOT of hallways within hallways... I've been thinking of them as just a square of 4 hallways on each floor, but it seems like they may actually make a tic-tac-toe grid (except for the gym floor, if we're right about that). Also, I noticed that Nazz and Sarah ran out of the gymnasium back doors, but inside the doors was a generic locker hallway instead of the gymnasium. And I'm also wondering where the gardening room is... It had a creative and recognizable door design, so I guess it's in a hallway they've never walked down before, or it's another Nurse's Office situation. |
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| Kirkland22 | Jun 11 2010, 03:08 AM Post #180 |
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Eh, true, but I really think it's important to know exactly where things are placed. But that's just me. XD
Yeah, that's true. The first time the cooking class is seen is in 'Mission Ed-Possible', but sadly, we don't see enough of it in that episode and we're distracted looking at Lee and Marie using the tweezers to pick up May in the background. XD
Yes, for sure there are lots of hallways in 'A Fistful of Ed', and I am especially intrigued about the one that contains the soda vending machine. And yes, I too wonder about that gardening room. It's probably a shared room on one of the top floors of the school, but perhaps not. What about the woodshop? Do we know where it's located? |
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