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| Mapping Out: Peach Creek As A Whole; It's no longer about the school anymore | |
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| AnimatEd | Jun 5 2010, 04:11 AM Post #141 |
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But that lane goes in the opposite direction from where the candy store is. It just leads into the peach orchard because it's going in the same direction as the road Kevin takes. XP Once again, this is just there to prove that there's lanes behind EVERY street in EEnE. They don't lead anywhere special (or anywhere canon, most of the time XD ). |
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| Kirkland22 | Jun 5 2010, 07:35 PM Post #142 |
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Sadly, I wasn't in the mood for EEnE yesterday, so that's why you didn't see a post from me. =O Time to change the subject to the trailer park, Park N' Flush, yes? I was wondering about the size of the trailer park. In the BPS, it appears to be substantially larger than in other episodes, shown in these screenshots below. Posted Image Posted Image In most episodes, take this shot from 'Quick Shot Ed' for example, the trailer park seems to be a lot smaller. Posted Image Isn't it easy to see that the trailer park in BPS seems to be a whole lot larger? |
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| AnimatEd | Jun 5 2010, 08:10 PM Post #143 |
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Yeah, it bothers me how huge it is in BPS. XP But there's no official map for the trailer park anyway. The trailers around the Kanker trailer constantly change, their distance from the forest and the Park N Flush sign changes between episodes, its roads are impossible to keep track of (I can't tell if they're roads or sidewalks or dirt paths or if cars can just drive on anything there... In BPS they look like dirt paths, but sometimes they're wider and stop in front of the trailers for the drivers' convenience, plus it'd be pretty stupid for a trailer park to be in the middle of a construction site, a forest, and a junkyard with no road reaching it), and I think even the design of the DIRT in the trailer park has changed over the episodes. It's a lot flatter in that season 1 shot than in that BPS shot. My point is that it's best to just accept that nothing about the Kankers' residence makes sense (I'm sure you've noticed how their trailer is bigger on the inside than the outside, and none of its doors or windows match up like they should). Another reason I don't have a problem with it is that locations in EEnE are always a lot bigger when the characters are walking in them than they are from overhead. Realistically, the construction site only has room for 4 houses and the trailer park should be easily visible from it. However, when the Eds go there, there's millions of houses (and most aren't even along a street street, the potential buyers are apparently expected to just drive over people's future-lawns to get to their homes?) and the trailer park is nowhere to be seen. |
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| Kirkland22 | Jun 5 2010, 08:23 PM Post #144 |
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Yeah, you're right. Really every time the trailer park is seen, SOMETHING is different or out-of-place compared to the previous time it's seen.
Oh yeah, I've definitely noticed this. The inside looks INCREDIBLY large compared to how it looks on the outside. Inside, it's two stories, containing a large family room, a kitchen, and an upstairs bedroom. On the outside, it certainly doesn't look like a two-story trailer. XP Another something I noticed, in that first BPS shot in my post, that purple trailer at the bottom right looks exactly like the Kanker Sisters' trailer. |
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| AnimatEd | Jun 5 2010, 08:44 PM Post #145 |
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A lot of the trailers look like theirs, but that one actually has the windows reversed and the Kankers have a light above their door, not a sign. In 'Nagged to Ed', when the Eds are running away, they pass, like, 3 trailers that look exactly like the Kanker trailer. XD |
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| Kirkland22 | Jun 5 2010, 08:56 PM Post #146 |
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Ah, yes, I see. Do you have a list of all the episodes where the trailer park appeared? Might be interesting to watch these episodes all in order and see how the trailer park changes each time it appears. |
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| AnimatEd | Jun 6 2010, 12:47 AM Post #147 |
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I don't, I've just been drawing their trailer a lot for the movie I'm making and have begun to memorize its details. XD I'm bored enough to try and make this list, though! Season 1 (5 appearances) Nagged to Ed Quick Shot Ed Look into my Eds Who, What, Where, Ed Avast ye Eds Season 2 (2 honorable mentions) 'Homecooked Eds' (only the Kanker trailer appears) Urban Ed (only seen in the background, while Eddy is on top of a skyscraper) Season 3 (3 appearances, 1 honorable mention) Wish You Were Ed (may be visible in the aerial shot of "Rolf's homeland") Momma's Little Ed Once Upon an Ed O-Ed Eleven Season 4 (4 appearances) If it Smells Like an Ed Ed Overboard A Twist of Ed Run for your Ed Season 5 (2 honorable mentions) Mission Ed-Possible (seen from overhead, and later the Kanker trailer is brought to Edd) A Town Called Ed (only the Kanker trailer appears) Season 6 (1 appearance) Ed, Edd n Eddy's Big Picture Show Specials (1 appearance) Jingle Jingle Jangle |
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| Kirkland22 | Jun 6 2010, 03:08 AM Post #148 |
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Yay! Thanks for the list! :D Hmm… I kinda thought that the trailer park appeared more than 19 times, but I guess this is right. Also, where is the creek in relation to the trailer park? Is it located beside the trailers, or somewhere farther away? I recall in 'Avast Ye Eds', the creek was visible from the Kankers' trailer, but later episodes don't suggest that the trailer park - especially the Kankers' trailer - is that near the creek. |
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| AnimatEd | Jun 6 2010, 03:56 AM Post #149 |
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So did I, this was eye opening. Just like when I realized the candy store didn't make any appearances in season 2 (and only, like, 2 appearances right at the beginning of season 1). Hmm... if you want another honorable mention, I think the Kanker trailer may have been floating behind Kevin when the Eds were in Kev's eye in 'One + One = Ed'. And I think just the sign for the trailer park has appeared a few more times, like when PC was flooded in 'Scrambled Ed.'
It is next to the trailer park, on the left, between the trailer park and Ed's backyard. Normally, the creek doesn't show up in places it should be visible from (the field, the junkyard, the trailer park, the kids' backyards, the construction site), and sometimes it'll appear but identifiable traits about it will be missing, like how I can only think of one instance in the actual show where you can see the creek ending at the center of the construction site cul-de-sac like it does on the official map. |
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| RTCombo | Jun 6 2010, 12:59 PM Post #150 |
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Sorry to bring the topic back a page or two, but I'd like to address the school (or it and it's surrounding streets) again. Looking at this shot I posted on the first page I see that there's supposed to be nothing on the street across from the school (the one where Ed and Eddy walk home on in Pick An Ed) yet in the pick in Kirk's post two pages back (which I won't post since this page's width is still normal, lol) there's seems to be a building & a car in front of it and the grass is nowhere to be seen, as well as the fence to the left of the school being farther from the school building than in the movie. Posted Image And now that I think about it, when the bus taking the kids to the jawbreaker factory was about to depart we see the rest of the street (facing the Fire Depot) in that shot yet we don't actually see the Fire Depot. Theories/ideas anyone? Lol, sorry if these are poor/easy to answer. But this thread is starting to dry up. |
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| AnimatEd | Jun 6 2010, 05:45 PM Post #151 |
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First, I just want to be self-absorbed and state that I'm the one who constructed that screenshot of the school in BPS. XD Basically, I just think the movie deserves more canon-points than season 5. Season 5 pretty much put the school in the middle of a forest with streets randomly appearing. The street in your post isn't even canon, actually, because it appears to be part made from the bus loop, rather than being a street in front of the bus loop. Run Ed Run's shot is too far away from the next street for the fire dept to be visible, and both that episode and May I Have This Ed claim that across from the school, there is a hill and more woods. If you look at the map I drew of the school's neighborhood about 2 pages back, my idea is that that purple building is facing the fire dept. street so that, as far as addresses go, it would not technically be on the street across from the school, minimizing the need to have more buildings across from the school. So behind that building/across from the school, I think there's the woods and hill from Run Ed Run and May I Have This Ed. |
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| Kirkland22 | Jun 6 2010, 08:16 PM Post #152 |
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Yeah, don't give me the credit for this, Driveus, I do nothing but ask questions and post bad-quality screenshots. XD Can we also talk about the inside of the school in this thread? I am wondering about the placement of the Eds' lockers, as it kind of changes in each episode they are shown. Do you have a map of the inside of the school? Also, I gave you a positive reputation point at The3Eds, AnimatEd. Your answers here are amazing, I thought it would be an appropriate "thank you" if I gave you a positive rep point there at T3E. =] |
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| AnimatEd | Jun 6 2010, 08:48 PM Post #153 |
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I'm fairly certain that's impossible to map out. There's an official design for every part of the school, but it's rarely clear how these places connect, especially since I'm not sure how the main building connects to the gymnasium building... The most canon thing I can figure out is that the janitor closet (most famous for HPH) is officially next to the library and I guess it's worth noting that the lost and found is in the main lobby of the school. 'This Won't Hurt an Ed' claims that the gymnasium is down the hall from nurse's office, but I don't know if we ever see the door for the nurse's office ever again, and we've also only seen the front desk/principal's office in 'No Speak Da Ed', but with no indication of where this was. I'm also left to assume the gym is on the first floor of the gymnasium building (although in 'Out With the Old..', the Eds' room charts are on the 2nd floor of one of the buildings, yet the Kankers manage to enter the hallway from the gym) and that the cafeteria is on a higher floor in that building (especially because of how far Jonny fell in 'A Fistful of Ed'). Unfortunately, it often changes what floor a room/hallway is on or what building it's in, so I think it's best not to drive yourself crazy about it. I don't think the Eds' houses really make sense all the time, either, especially because I'm pretty sure that too many of their houses have extra rooms where the door to their garages should really be.
Haha, thank you very much! =D |
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| Kirkland22 | Jun 7 2010, 12:31 AM Post #154 |
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You're welcome. Although I wish there was more I could do to say thanks.
Yeah, I understand. The location of some of the lockers and rooms in the school confuse me often.
That janitor closet also appeared in 'May I Have This Ed?', by the way, and I can't tell if it's next to the library. Look at the following screenshots from the aforementioned episode. Posted Image Posted Image
Yeah, I won't drive myself crazy about it, I just REALLY WANT TO KNOW. DX But I do understand what you're saying. BONUS: This shot from 'Quick Shot Ed' is just for fun. I paused and realized the frame I was paused on was hilarious, so I'll post a screenshot. XD Posted Image |
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| AnimatEd | Jun 7 2010, 01:24 AM Post #155 |
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Don't worry, I just like talking about the Eds. XD
Yeah, you can't tell in that episode, but in HPH, the library doors make their first appearance during Edd and May's closet scene. The libary is to the right of the janitor's closet. The closet is also visible when Nazz walks into the library in 'Cool Hand Ed' and I believe it's visible next to the library in 'All Eds Are Off'. However, I'm realizing that there appear to be two designs for this hallway. In HPH and 'All Eds Are Off', the library/closet hallway is in the center of a long hallway. In 'Cool Hand Ed' and 'May I Have This Ed', they're in the left corner of a hallway (though MIHTE places a bulletin board where the window CHE would be). Also, according to CHE, this floor would be on the top floor of whatever building the Eds were on top of (I'm pretty sure it was the main building, in which case that'd probably just be the first floor, which MIHTE would agree with). And HAHA, that IS a funny screenshot. XD |
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| Kirkland22 | Jun 7 2010, 02:28 AM Post #156 |
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I can tell. And me too. :D
Yes, I remember seeing that.
Yeah, I do notice this. That's what confuses me about the school; the hallways and rooms and lockers are so different in each episode, it really drives me nuts. DX To the subject of the location of the gym, I remember in 'Smile For the Ed' the entrance to the gym is from the hallway of lockers. In other episodes, such as 'Tween a Rock and an Ed Place', I recall it being different. I'd like to go hunt down some screenshots to further enforce my point, but my computer's starting to not sit well with YouTube videos. =O Maybe it will let me watch episodes on YT again tomorrow without problems. Anyway, what are your theories of where the gym is located in the school? |
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| AnimatEd | Jun 7 2010, 03:13 AM Post #157 |
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I think we should just try to be content that they even bother to stick to the designs of the many different rooms. Like, there's a few different aisles in the library and they could change those just as easily as they change the regular hallways, but they're kind enough to keep these aisles canon. This kinda factors into a point I make whenever people try to claim that the school affected the writing: the school is exactly like the cul-de-sac and does not put any limits on the writers because the kids are rarely in class. The hallways are the lane, and the lockers are the fences in the lane. These exist just to connect two locations, whether it makes sense or not, and to create an easy-to-loop background while characters walk. The rooms are like the houses/yards, which have official designs but are not always walked to via the canon route.
Well, I'll start with the easy part and say it's obvious which building the gym is in, and I have to assume that it takes up that entire first floor, so that they can exit from the front doors in 'Tween a Rock..' and go out the backdoors to play football in 'Tight End Ed'. And I'm guessing the 'Cool Hand Ed' gym class was either using the front doors since the canon pavement in front of the gym building didn't exist in that ep, or side doors that lead to the track field (since that's on the side of the building). I don't really see anything against the hallway at the beginning of 'Smile for the Ed' and the hallway at the beginning of 'Tween...' being the same hallway... It seems like the gym is always in the center of a long locker hallway, and I guess this hallway is at the left side of the main building's first floor, in order to make sense with how the gym appears to be the entirety of the first floor for the gym building. In 'Look Before You Ed', the main building flips away from the gym building and we get to see inside the gym building. If I remember correctly, it was 3 floors and all three were hallways, so I guess half of the gym hallway is still inside the gym building. |
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| Kirkland22 | Jun 7 2010, 10:58 PM Post #158 |
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Yeah, you're right. Have to give them credit for something, anyway. I guess we're too nit-picky on the littlest things. XD
Yes, you remember correctly. Now that the question of the gym is answered, I would like to go into discussion about the location of the nurse office. In 'This Won't Hurt an Ed', the only time I remember the nurse office being seen, it's at the end of that hallway which contains lockers and the entrance to the gym building. However, whenever this same hallway is seen in other episodes, I don't see the nurse office. |
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| AnimatEd | Jun 8 2010, 01:34 AM Post #159 |
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...While mulling over your question, it occured to me that if we're correct about the placement of the janitor closet and library, then those should be on the right side of the main building, whichever floor it's on. This is mainly judging from how the camera panned in 'Cool Hand Ed', but also because, from what we've learned about the gym and possibly the nurse's office, it would be retconning those locations if the janitor/library hallway was placed anywhere else in the main building. So, to more directly answer your question, if we're right about everything else, then nurse's office is along the back hallway of the main building on the first floor, near the left side of that hallway (close to the gym). And I'm guessing that, if they ever needed to show the nurse's office again, then that WOULD be its official location, but the gym's more important so if that's all the Eds needs to interact with, then that's the only important feature that will exist in the hallway. Again, this is probably just to make the hallways easier to loop when the Eds are walking down them. |
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| Kirkland22 | Jun 8 2010, 11:19 AM Post #160 |
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Yeah, that's true, and there were about seven episodes before 'This Won't Hurt an Ed' that showed the school, so I'm sure they hadn't even planned a nurse office until they thought up a plot for 'This Won't Hurt an Ed.' How about rooms like the "Happy Clucker's Club" room and the music room? Do we ever find out where they're located? |
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