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Mapping Out: Peach Creek As A Whole; It's no longer about the school anymore
Topic Started: May 2 2010, 06:59 AM (7,091 Views)
Kirkland22
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Well, maybe not a barn, I guess it looks more like a ranch house for the farmer... I was wondering what the hole-looking spot was, but I was kinda assuming it was a tiny crop square, an animal pen, a mud pile (since Rolf's farm has some patches where the grass is replaced by a similarly designed mud/dirt area), or an oddly outlined shadow. The screenshot I gave you is positioned in the way that shows the most of the land, but there's a snake partially obscuring the building in it, so maybe that's why it looks like machinery to you? I wouldn't really know what these things look like, though.


Right, I understand what you're saying. Yeah, the more I look at it, perhaps my theory of it being some piece of machinery might not be as probable as your interpretation.

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It reminded me of 'Run Ed Run' too! I was so excited because I thought it was a continuity moment, but now I realize that these two croppy locations are on opposite ends of the cul-de-sac. So I guess the best conclusion to draw from this is that what we see in that 'Run Ed Run' shot is a pretty full map of the town next to PC that isn't Lemon Brook, because it doesn't even try to map the familiar cul-de-sac area. It puts two cul-de-sacs across from each other instead of next to each other. This town looks far less industrialized than Peach Creek (especially if its lower half is apparently a desert), so I guess its specializes in farming.


Yes, to me it appears to be some type of a tiny community in the middle of a bunch of farms and fields, but the jawbreaker factory is no where to be seen in that shot! Makes me wonder, because when they were being propelled into the sky, they were within the vicinity of the factory, and they went directly up, not to the sides, so I think the Jawbreaker factory should have come up in the shot. What do you think?

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I'm glad you took that screenshot because I haven't given it a good look in a long time, I forgot about the connecting waterways! I suppose that could be where the creek goes.


Yes, waterways always fascinate me. XD I kinda want to know what rivers/creeks these are and where they lead, but I suppose we may never know.

Anyway, for your reference and entertainment, here are a few more shots I just took from "Run Ed Run."

There appears to be a lake in this shot, you can see it toward the left of the shot.

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I can also see that one river/creek in the bottom of this shot.


This one is better quality and it shows more of that river/creek!! :D

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Yes, to me it appears to be some type of a tiny community in the middle of a bunch of farms and fields, but the jawbreaker factory is no where to be seen in that shot! Makes me wonder, because when they were being propelled into the sky, they were within the vicinity of the factory, and they went directly up, not to the sides, so I think the Jawbreaker factory should have come up in the shot. What do you think?


I meant to mention that in my previous post! It bothers me that the jawbreaker factory, fence and electrical towers, the only identifiable features for this town during the car chase, are nowhere to be seen in the overhead shot. I guess these things would be difficult to accurately depict from overhead, though... They could either be hidden in there since it seems like an EXTREMELY high up shot, or the factory could be over on the left (even though it doesn't make sense with how the Eds were shot up), since it probably makes more sense for such an unusually advanced part of their simple farming town to be on the outskirts of the town.

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Yes, waterways always fascinate me. XD I kinda want to know what rivers/creeks these are and where they lead, but I suppose we may never know.


There appears to be a road/bridge over one of these waterways in your last screenshot! Since the shot's so far above the ground, I feel like it should include more than one town (especially since we probably should've seen the water ways), but there are so few features (roads, crops) that it seems like it'd still have to be really close, even though all the buildings are teeny tiny.

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There appears to be a lake in this shot, you can see it toward the left of the shot.


Indeed! I also see some smaller bodies of water in the last shot, or at least tiny blue buildings, in the center of the image and near the bottom.
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There appears to be a road/bridge over one of these waterways in your last screenshot! Since the shot's so far above the ground, I feel like it should include more than one town (especially since we probably should've seen the water ways), but there are so few features (roads, crops) that it seems like it'd still have to be really close, even though all the buildings are teeny tiny.


You're right, there is a bridge over the river! Looks like there is some development of some kind along the road that goes parallel to the river. Very fascinating, I wonder how this area connects to Peach Creek and Lemon Brook?

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I also see some smaller bodies of water in the last shot, or at least tiny blue buildings, in the center of the image and near the bottom.


Yes, I see this too. I guess the development of this land is scattered, meaning, there is a little development in one place, a large gap where undeveloped farmland is, and then more development. I'm going to watch the episode again tonight to see if I can find any better screenshots, or perhaps observe how they arrived at the area of the jawbreaker factory.
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You're right, there is a bridge over the river! Looks like there is some development of some kind along the road that goes parallel to the river. Very fascinating, I wonder how this area connects to Peach Creek and Lemon Brook?


I'd imagine this would've been visible when the Eds were chasing the bus, but since no other road seems to go to the right (where we assume PC is), then I guess the bus drove over the bridge to get to this town? This waterway reminds me of the canals I saw while I was in Florida... They went under bridges and through people's backyards. The bus could also apparently take a number of different routes from there that would be long and winding but still one desolate road, although most of the options are way more convoluted. The canal seems to block all roads except for the bridge road from going back to Peach Creek. I don't think Lemon Brook would be affected by this because you'd need to go through Peach Creek to get there anyway. The Lemon Brook waterfall/stream may go south to this canal, though (the stream was actually taking the Eds back to the cul-de-sac, but since the other kids got to Mondo by going north, I'm left to assume that the unpredictable current Edd mentioned was part of a fork in the stream, that took them north to the swamp [which I like to think somehow transitions into the source of the waterfall as well, creating a cycle]).

Though, I've gotta say, it's probably still not a good idea to use this shot for TOO much evidence, because the different shots of this other town don't even keep up with what tree formations surround the identifiable bends in the canal. Everything seems to be different in each shot, except for the canal.

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I'd imagine this would've been visible when the Eds were chasing the bus, but since no other road seems to go to the right (where we assume PC is), then I guess the bus drove over the bridge to get to this town? This waterway reminds me of the canals I saw while I was in Florida... They went under bridges and through people's backyards. The bus could also apparently take a number of different routes from there that would be long and winding but still one desolate road, although most of the options are way more convoluted. The canal seems to block all roads except for the bridge road from going back to Peach Creek. I don't think Lemon Brook would be affected by this because you'd need to go through Peach Creek to get there anyway. The Lemon Brook waterfall/stream may go south to this canal, though (the stream was actually taking the Eds back to the cul-de-sac, but since the other kids got to Mondo by going north, I'm left to assume that the unpredictable current Edd mentioned was part of a fork in the stream, that took them north to the swamp [which I like to think somehow transitions into the source of the waterfall as well, creating a cycle]).


I see, and it's interesting that this reminded you of what you saw on your vacation in Florida.

So, I watched "Run Ed Run" again tonight, and I took some screenshots for you:

The bus first starts here at the school, as detailed in this shot:

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First, the bus zooms by Wootie's Café and the other stores in Peach Creek. This screenshot shows what's right past the stores, specifically Danny's Meat Shop and AKA Shoes:

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I think that the bus turned on that road that forms a T-shaped intersection with the main Peach Creek road.

And as a bonus, I found this shot interesting. See the label on the bus? It says Peach Creek HIGH SCHOOL, not Junior High.

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The bus first starts here at the school, as detailed in this shot:

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We get to see a little of what's across from the school in this shot too! It's not entirely like the other depictions we've seen, but it's vague enough to still fit into those two other instances.

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I think that the bus turned on that road that forms a T-shaped intersection with the main Peach Creek road.


I like to think that too, because as a driver myself, it annoys me to see EEnE's buses having such perfect straight paths to drive down. XP There've gotta be SOME turns, offscreen or otherwise!

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And as a bonus, I found this shot interesting. See the label on the bus? It says Peach Creek HIGH SCHOOL, not Junior High.

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I've been saying that. XD I think it's a canon reference to the PC High School and that PCHS lends the JH its buses since the PCHS kids further from school than the PCJH. They were able to edit the school bus model for the Lemon Brook bus design, so I think they could've fixed the PC bus if they wanted to.
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We get to see a little of what's across from the school in this shot too! It's not entirely like the other depictions we've seen, but it's vague enough to still fit into those two other instances.


You're right, and we also see the bus turnaround with the sign at the front of the school toward the right side of that screenshot. You can also see a little bit of the stands surrounding the football field, but the bus side mirror covers up most of it.

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I've been saying that. XD I think it's a canon reference to the PC High School and that PCHS lends the JH its buses since the PCHS kids further from school than the PCJH. They were able to edit the school bus model for the Lemon Brook bus design, so I think they could've fixed the PC bus if they wanted to.


Yeah, I just wanted to point that out. XD I think I'm going to skim through several other Season 5 episodes tonight to look for more shots of the buses.
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You can also see a little bit of the stands surrounding the football field, but the bus side mirror covers up most of it.


That's actually the athletic field, which supports the map I made of the school on the previous page. The athletic field has different bleachers than the football field. The football field has metal bars holding everything up and long wooden boards to sit on, while the athletic field has its seats set up more like complete stairs (like, you wouldn't be able to see underneath the bleachers if you were to look between your legs while sitting) and these stairs are supported by what seem to be large boards on the sides and back rather than bars (this is visible in your screenshot).

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Yeah, I just wanted to point that out. XD I think I'm going to skim through several other Season 5 episodes tonight to look for more shots of the buses.


I'm pretty sure the only other season 5 episode with a school bus is 'All Eds Are Off'. I don't think buses make any appearances unless the kids are riding in one, aside from the first shot of HPH.
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That's actually the athletic field, which supports the map I made of the school on the previous page. The athletic field has different bleachers than the football field. The football field has metal bars holding everything up and long wooden boards to sit on, while the athletic field has its seats set up more like complete stairs (like, you wouldn't be able to see underneath the bleachers if you were to look between your legs while sitting) and these stairs are supported by what seem to be large boards on the sides and back rather than bars (this is visible in your screenshot).


Ah, you're right. Also, the road that the bus is on is the same road in this shot that you posted, right?

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Yes, I'm thinking that the bus made a left where Kevin made a right, and then made another left so that it would go down to the candy store street.

...I wonder who's in the school during summertime in BPS, it looks like someone opened a window and turned the lights on. =O
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Sorry for that short post. XD

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...I wonder who's in the school during summertime in BPS, it looks like someone opened a window and turned the lights on. =O


It could just be the principal or the teachers either preparing for the next school year or cleaning up after the last school year, or it could be… …other things.

So I watched "Tight End Ed" and I found some shots of the Lemon Brook bus:

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As you can see from these shots, the Lemon Brook buses say "Lemon Brook Jr. High" unlike the ones for Peach Creek which just say "Peach Creek H.S". Maybe Lemon Brook is a lot larger of a town that Peach Creek, therefore requires separate buses for the middle and high schools?
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Kirkland22,Jun 3 2010
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It could just be the principal or the teachers either preparing for the next school year or cleaning up after the last school year, or it could be… …other things.

Yeah, I guess I'm just wishing I knew what happened in schools during the summer. XP

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As you can see from these shots, the Lemon Brook buses say "Lemon Brook Jr. High" unlike the ones for Peach Creek which just say "Peach Creek H.S". Maybe Lemon Brook is a lot larger of a town that Peach Creek, therefore requires separate buses for the middle and high schools?


I mentioned that earlier too, when I first brought up the PCHS buses. XD That's the conclusion I draw about it too, although I suppose it's also possible that it could be a reverse of the PC system, making it so that the high school is closer to the students, reducing their need for buses, while the junior high is further away and its students require buses to get there. I wonder if the LBJH doubles as an elementary school the same way PCJH does...
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Yeah, I guess I'm just wishing I knew what happened in schools during the summer. XP


I dunno… Maybe It's a good thing we don't know. XD

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I mentioned that earlier too, when I first brought up the PCHS buses. XD That's the conclusion I draw about it too, although I suppose it's also possible that it could be a reverse of the PC system, making it so that the high school is closer to the students, reducing their need for buses, while the junior high is further away and its students require buses to get there. I wonder if the LBJH doubles as an elementary school the same way PCJH does...


Aha, good point. Either way, I still think Lemon Brook is larger, not sure why, I just imagine Lemon Brook is a larger town than Peach Creek. I guess we really will never know which one is larger.

And yeah, I also wonder if LBJH doubles as middle and elementary. I guess we'll never know this either. XD

Well, you can probably tell that I'm really curious about Lemon Brook. I'm sure you've tried mapping it out, I think you did mention that earlier in this thread, right?
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Either way, I still think Lemon Brook is larger, not sure why, I just imagine Lemon Brook is a larger town than Peach Creek. I guess we really will never know which one is larger.


I originally got the feeling that Lemon Brook would be creepily similar to PC, like how Shelbyville is creepily similar to Springfield on The Simpsons. But now that we've seen part of Lemon Brook, it seems like it has a much more natural setting, at least on the south end the kids went through. It seems like LB would have a smaller area for the actual developed part of town, since Peach Creek is developed all over, but half of LB (if it's the same size as PC) is the waterfalls, rivers, forests, and one factory, which is about half of the room that PC's development takes place. Unless LB stretches far north, further than PC's border, it's probably the same size with less development.

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Well, you can probably tell that I'm really curious about Lemon Brook. I'm sure you've tried mapping it out, I think you did mention that earlier in this thread, right?


I'm really curious about it too. I was really excited when they introduced it in Tight End Ed and I would've been so mad if it wasn't brought up in the movie. I've only been able to map out the parts of Lemon Brook that were seen in the movie, I don't want to make things up. XD
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I originally got the feeling that Lemon Brook would be creepily similar to PC, like how Shelbyville is creepily similar to Springfield on The Simpsons.


I wouldn't know this, the only thing I watch on TV is Ed, Edd n Eddy and occasionally the news. XD

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It seems like LB would have a smaller area for the actual developed part of town, since Peach Creek is developed all over, but half of LB (if it's the same size as PC) is the waterfalls, rivers, forests, and one factory, which is about half of the room that PC's development takes place. Unless LB stretches far north, further than PC's border, it's probably the same size with less development.


Well, Peach Creek isn't developed ALL over, but you're right, mostly. Yeah, Lemon Brook does consist of an assortment of geographical landmarks such as waterfalls, thereby taking up the space that would otherwise be used for development. However, I do think Lemon Brook probably does stretch past Peach Creek's border; no reason why, just because I think so. XP

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I'm really curious about it too. I was really excited when they introduced it in Tight End Ed and I would've been so mad if it wasn't brought up in the movie. I've only been able to map out the parts of Lemon Brook that were seen in the movie, I don't want to make things up. XD


Yeah, it's fun to make things up, but I think we'd both rather have a real map of Lemon Brook. The closest we get into Lemon Brook is in the BPS, I guess.
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Looking at the pieced together pic in Kirkland22's post there appears to be a lane next to a Deli, does anyone think this is the lane behind the Candy Store (discussed a page or two back)?

Also is the red building next to that lane a plain dwelling or a store (I can see a sign-like thing on top of the building's garage and what appears to be a letter 'C')?
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Looking at the pieced together pic in Kirkland22's post there appears to be a lane next to a Deli, does anyone think this is the lane behind the Candy Store (discussed a page or two back)?

Also is the red building next to that lane a plain dwelling or a store (I can see a sign-like thing on top of the building's garage and what appears to be a letter 'C')?

I think if you make a left on that street and then make another left, and then you'll be on the street that heads to the candy store, which is on the other side of Peach Creek (apparently right on one of its borders, according to a sign in 'Run Ed Run').

The red building says P.C.F.D., it's the local fire department.
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The red building says P.C.F.D., it's the local fire department.

Oh so that was the Fire Depot. My bad.

Now that I look at the street across the school does anyone else think that that street could be the 'Lih's Supply Co.' street? The street next to the supply shop was likely to be a 'T' shaped street which is also how the street is according to the pic. I know that there's a red car in front of the building but I'm a bit curious if that street at least connects to the Lih's Supply Co street (I probably should've said that earlier :P).
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The red building says P.C.F.D., it's the local fire department.

Oh so that was the Fire Depot. My bad.

Now that I look at the street across the school does anyone else think that that street could be the 'Lih's Supply Co.' street? The street next to the supply shop was likely to be a 'T' shaped street which is also how the street is according to the pic. I know that there's a red car in front of the building but I'm a bit curious if that street at least connects to the Lih's Supply Co street (I probably should've said that earlier :P).

Do you mean directly across or if you make a left? Judging from the few other episodes that show directly across from the school, that purple store would have to be the only one there because the series seems to insist there's trees and a hill on the other side. But if you mean after making a left, I can totally see that working! I like that idea a lot actually... I kinda doubt THAT is the exact T-intersection, but maybe there's another one further down to the left (the one where I proposed someone could make a left to go to the candy store?).
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Do you mean directly across or if you make a left? Judging from the few other episodes that show directly across from the school, that purple store would have to be the only one there because the series seems to insist there's trees and a hill on the other side. But if you mean after making a left, I can totally see that working! I like that idea a lot actually... I kinda doubt THAT is the exact T-intersection, but maybe there's another one further down to the left (the one where I proposed someone could make a left to go to the candy store?).

Neither actually, lol.
I don't think it's the exact one either, but I do think that it connects to Lih's street somehow further away. The school's street doesn't have the same types of streetlights or the stop sign visible in the shots I posted a few pages back, but if the lane next to the Fire Depot leads to the Candy Store then it'd make sense if the street was there. Plus having a store like Lih's Supply Co. near a school wouldn't exactly be a bad thing would it ;D?
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