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| Mapping Out: Peach Creek As A Whole; It's no longer about the school anymore | |
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| Kirkland22 | May 14 2010, 07:13 PM Post #41 |
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That's a good point, but the reason I didn't think it was part of the lane, or a dead-end part of the lane was because it seemed too wide. The lane isn't quite that wide, so it led me to believe that it's separate from the lane. But this is just an observation, nevertheless. Yeah, seeing the dead-end to the lane in 'Ed, Ed, n Away' was a little surprising, because we'd think the lane kept going until it reaches the street. But you're right, this sis probably a non-canon addition just to spice up the areas in the episodes. |
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| AnimatEd | May 14 2010, 07:29 PM Post #42 |
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Its width changes constantly. If they're just walking through it, then it's thin, but it can expand itself so they can set up a tennis/volleyball court, a ramp, a city, the old west, and so on. I'm not sure what good a lane would be, especially with dumpsters in it, if it wasn't a garbage truck path. The dead-ends are generally used as obstacles, so it's weird when they exist for no clear reason in episodes like 'See No Ed'. XD |
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| Kirkland22 | May 14 2010, 07:53 PM Post #43 |
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That's true. Also, in the episode 'Ed or Tails', you can see the lane parallel to the creek as the last jawbreaker is rolling on the fence. Now, I think in most episodes, the lane and creek aren't parallel, so this also stunned me a little. I guess it's another non-canon thing, but it is interesting to point out. |
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| AnimatEd | May 15 2010, 12:03 AM Post #44 |
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That whole competition they were doing was on another street (either the street across from the playground or on the other side of the construction site), actually, which calls into question why the Eds were able to run through the stranger's house and why Jonny and Plank were playing football there. You can also see another street behind the one they're on, so I don't even know where this lane and creek were, unless Eddy's head knocked the jawbreaker back to the cul-de-sac's lane.. Surprisingly, I can actually think of a way the artists could cheat and make the creek run parallel to the lane, because they're not too far away from each other in at least one part of the creek. Fun-fact we learn from that episode, which I never fully thought out before: Rolf was walking home with groceries from the right side of that street, which means the local supermarket would ALSO be somewhere past the right side of that street. But more importantly and more definately, the supermarket is to the right of the cul-de-sac, placing it in the vicinity of the Community Pool. THIS THREAD IS SO MUCH FUN FOR MEEE. XD |
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| RTCombo | May 15 2010, 01:10 PM Post #45 |
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Yeah I was talking about all of the different stores lol. Have you got a list of the stores on that street? I've tried gathering up all the store names other than the Candy Store and the store Ed had a back-to-school coupon for. Though a majority of them are basicly the staff's last names to some random item. Also, do you know what 'Corner Store' Eddy was talking about in season 1? |
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| AnimatEd | May 15 2010, 07:36 PM Post #46 |
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In my first map, I decided that street they were on for Lih's Department Store (Ed's coupon) was the next street past the candy store street (which I refer to as Main Street). In my second map, I decided not to map the stores out too seriously because the building locations usually change other than the ones immediately located around the candy store (which is usually The Kitchen Store on the left, Wootie's Cafe across [changed to Toomey's Tattoos in the movie because Wootie left], Danny's Meat Shop and AKA Shoes somewhere else across the street), and even then the placement of that street itself is always changing. I coooould map out the movie's locations, because it makes some interesting revelations (there's apartments on the street behind Underwood's Pet Shoppe, the buildings under the highway are much larger and... fancier, I suppose, than the usual buildings in the show, kinda like city buildings), but I think it kinda goes against the canon locations because the bus stop is usually next to Wootie's Cafe/Toomey's Tattoos, but this one is next to Underwood's Pet Shoppe, which is still somehow across the street from the candy store. In 'Who Let The Ed In', we see another bus stop that is by houses, but I don't want to use that as an excuse to say the movie's one is a different bus stop than usual because other than the Pet Shoppe, it's consistent with the show's appearances of the bus stop. Assuming Ed's bench in 'The Ed-touchables' was the bus stop bench, then the corner store is probably Wootie's Cafe, since that store is normally on a corner with a bus stop and bench next to it. The other stores around the candy store didn't exist until season 3, though. Fun fact: the candy store didn't appear at all in season 2 and only made two or three appearances in season 1, and only the eeearly episodes, none of the later season 1 episodes. So until season 3 they had no reason to show the other stores. I made a list of every sign in the movie that includes the store names seen in the movie. I haven't gone as far as to make lists for every one in the series, though. PC Main Street: • “PRINT SHOP” • “COST-LESS FURNITURE” • “YOGA” “DANCE” (stickers in windows above previous store) • “Est. 1955” • “CAFE” • “SHOES” • “TOOMEY’S TATTOOS” • An image of an arrow through a heart with “MOM” written on it (in window of previous store) • “SALE (illegible scribbles)” “(illegible scribbles) 1 lb.” (in window of next store) • “Danny’s Meat Shop” • “The KITCHEN Shop” • “SALE” “SUPER SWEET” (window of next store) • “Candy” • “GARCIA’S ANTIQUES” • “UNDERWOOD’S PET SHOPPE” • “E-Z- SCOOP (image of some form of animal waste to scoop and a description blocked by Plank)” (billboard on the side of the previous store) • “BUS” (bus stop sign) Here's the T3E thread with my full list of signs in BPS: http://the3eds.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=24764 |
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| RTCombo | May 16 2010, 04:16 AM Post #47 |
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Do you mean left or right of the Candy Store street? Since in season 1 the right of the Candy Store street appearently leads to a long stretch of road (the street the Eds are chasing their jawbreakers on).
Wow, you sure like listing things :). I recall a few other names being seen in Out With the Old, In With The Ed and a few season 3 & 4 episodes. I'll try and list them later.
Do you suppose it's a different bus line? The one in WLTEI was Bee-Line (if memory recalls), the one in Big Picture Show is uncomfirmed. |
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| AnimatEd | May 16 2010, 04:29 AM Post #48 |
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I mean the street behind Main Street. Like there's more than one street with stores on it.
Yeah, there's a lot of other stores. I'd list every sign in the entire series if that didn't mean spending days watching ever single episode. XD I was able to do the movie just because that was only ONE thing. I can't really remember the other stores on Lih's street, but I think there was a "SHOP" and a "CAFE." One of those, probably the Shop, had a sign that said "Since 1998," confirming that the show takes place sometime in the 2000s (prior to the movie's several references to the present). I think that Shop is different than the Supermarket, though.
Hmmm... maybe! I hadn't thought of that. The bus in 'In Like Ed' is Dander Hound, a parody of Greyhound. I'm not sure what to call the bus in BPS, though. Quite frankly, I was sad it wasn't the Dander Hound. XD |
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| RTCombo | May 16 2010, 05:42 AM Post #49 |
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Upon further study of OWTO,IWTE (I haven't gotten around to analyze the season 3/4 eps yet) it seems that next to the Supply Co. shop is a 'T' shaped crossing with other buildings on the other street. Posted Image And yes there is a 'Shop' and 'Cafe' though the pics are blurry so I can't seem to find a "Since 1998" lettering on it. There also seems to be a few newspaper booths in front of the Shop. Posted Image The rest of the Cafe street appears to be an unknown purple building, a green building and what I think is a movie theatre along with a few other buildings and either another forest/woodsy area or a really tall building (kinda hidden in this shot by Edd's hat). And possibly another 'T' or 'L' shaped crossing at the end judging by the unidentified houses/buildings barely seen next to Edd's hat. Posted Image
I forgot to mention this in my previous post, but I thought that the corner store was the Supply Co. shop since it's on a corner and it makes more sense to call that a corner store than a cafe (to me anyway, lol). Posted Image
Oops, lol. Bee-Line (or something like it) used to be a busline that passed through my town back when I lived in NY, silly me :sweatdrop. Must've got them mixed up. |
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| AnimatEd | May 16 2010, 07:41 AM Post #50 |
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Hey, look, it's a stop sign! That solves our earlier discussion about whether or not there's ever been a stop sign outside of Boo Haw Haw. : D
"Since 1998" is on the gold banner design under "SHOP," the writing actually still looks pretty clear to me. The newspapers are the "Daily Kazoo" and either the "Morning" or "Evening Post." And the word under "Cafe" is "Fondue," meaning it's named "Cafe Fondue." Arrrrgh, there used to be AMAZING high quality screenshots of this episode that I would look at constantly, but the domain for those has since expired... There ARE names on those buildings. I think the purple one says Laundromat, the green one looks like it has "Hut" as its second word, and the red one may say "Deli" (as if there aren't enough Deli's in the show already, though). More importantly, I believe I recognize that red building as one of those tall buildings I mentioned earlier as being under the highway in BPS! So I guess that could help us figure out where this is, though it probably isn't a perfect theory since the highway clearly didn't exist in the artists' minds prior to the movie. I really like this street, by the way. It's impressive how developed it feels, despite only appearing in this one small scene. This is probably the point where Peach Creek started feeling real to me, like enough effort was being put into it for me to care about it, despite its many inconsistencies.
That does make more sense, but there's no benches there as far as I can see, and in the real world, this street wasn't imagined until about 5 years after Eddy said that line, so it was probably referring to the street the Candy Store's on, since that existed in that episode, even though the other buildings had not yet been fleshed out. Lih's street also feels like it would be out of the Eds' way since they've only gone their once out of necessity and if my highway theory is true, Jonny only went through there in the movie because he was on a bus. Honestly, my initial response to Eddy's line is that the Candy Store IS the corner store, even though that makes even less sense. I don't think it's really meant to be looked into, though. "Corner store" is just the kind of word you hear kids say in cartoons (although I feel it's more a characterization of kids in the 1950s). Side note: I'd just like to apologize for not using screenshots more often. I'm often putting off something else when I write these posts (right now, that thing would be sleep), so I feel I shouldn't make things worse for myself by looking for the episodes, making screenshots, and going through the long process of uploading them to imageshack. If I wasn't always stretched for time, I'd totally be covering these posts in pictures of the places I talk about, like the highway buildings. As a consolation, wrap your mind around this: the street Jimmy's ambulance makes a right turn onto in 'One Of Those Eds' would be the cul-de-sac, judging from all the other shots in the episode. Why did it turn there? Was it escorting Jimmy home because it was a minor injury, was it using the cul-de-sac to make an easy u-turn so it'd be able to go to a hospital to the right of the cul-de-sac, or was it just an inconsistency? YOU DECIDE. |
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| RTCombo | May 16 2010, 10:47 AM Post #51 |
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Do you mean me or someone else, lol? I'll have to rewatch that episode, in the meantime I hope Kirkland22 comes in here to answer that, lol.
I'm not sure if the high way really is above this street (since I don't see anything above this street). But the Eds (or any of the characters for that matter) probably don't go here either because it's not as simple to access as the candy store street or they simply have no business being here (which I personally think is the reason). I think a majority of the kids would rather be spending their time at home than just wandering around on a street with stores that they can't afford to go into.
Since the Eds starting getting out the Cul-De-Sac to places like the school and jawbreaker factories the staff probably wanted to expand how far they could take the Eds. Unidentified places in Peach Creek, a community pool, Eddy's bro's place, the A.K.A. staff must've had a lot of places they wanted the Eds to find themselves in. |
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| Kirkland22 | May 16 2010, 11:37 AM Post #52 |
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Well, that is indeed strange, because the ambulance turned into the cul-de-sac. I suppose that was just a minor non-canon thing. However, what I did notice as clear as day in the episode 'One of Those Eds', is that when Kevin jumped out from a fence to stumble upon the quarter, the fenced in yard he was exiting wasn't his, it was the yard of the house next to him, or at least according to that map of the cul-de-sac on Edtropolis.com that I keep referring to. Maybe Kevin hopped the fence from his yard into this other house's yard, but it did seem a little strange. Edit: Also, question for Driveus: Some of your screenshots look really nice. Would you mind if I added some of them to the screenshot galleries at the Ed, Edd n Eddy Wiki? Not sure if there's a way to credit you, I just wanted to ask you if you were okay with having them at the Wiki. |
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| AnimatEd | May 16 2010, 07:25 PM Post #53 |
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I mean anyone who's up to the challenge of figuring out that puzzle. XD
Well, yeah, the same way that Lih's street can't be referred to in season 1 because it wasn't invented yet, the highway can't be placed over Lih's street in that episode because the highway wasn't invented until the movie. But what I'm saying is that the background artists may have decided to try and incorporate this location into the movie by placing it under the highway and retconning its previous appearance without the highway. Haha, that's a good point, there's no reason to go there if you don't got cash. XD Here's a screenshot of the buildings I'm talking about: Posted Image Looking at it again, I think I was wrong and that these are much bigger than the Lih's street buildings. I wonder what these big buildings are.. the orange one on the left looks like it could be a hospital... Also, it was difficult to match these shots up because I think it zooms out as it pans up, so I had to stretch the top screenshot a bit so it would fit. XP Posted Image And here's a screenshot of the bus stop as the bus leaves. I thiiiink that looks like the candy store in the distance on the right, but it's hard to tell. I get the feeling the main street scenes were shot at weird angles specifically to make it impossible to track.
Indeed indeed.. That's the only explanation I can come up with for it. Kids just jump into other people's backyards in the Eds' neighborhood. The Eds were also in that house's backyard in Boo Haw Haw when Ed fought Sarah. |
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| RTCombo | May 17 2010, 02:28 PM Post #54 |
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TBH I can't really find a connection to Lih's street to the street under the highway. At least not while I can't see the roofs, lol. Though for a split second I thought that the purple building in your second shot (thanks for the taking the time to put these up BTW) was the 'Laundromat' on Lih's street, lol. For some reason I keep thinking that yellow sign-like thing (the one further up on the street on the left) is a traffic-light (the kind made for sidewalks). In the end, the street below the highway kinda looks like another random street. It feels like the A.K.A. guys put some work into Lih's street, I'm not sure if they'd waste it for a 2-sec scene (coarse they only made it for a small scene in the series so far though, lol).
Sure as long as you don't mind some of them being blurred to the point where you can't even read the signs, lol. |
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| AnimatEd | May 17 2010, 05:52 PM Post #55 |
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Yeah, under my screenshot of the highway, I said I was mistaken about that. I was thinking of how Jonny passes some buildings that have a half-circle part on their roof the same way the red building on Lih's street does. If I remember correctly the buildings he passes that have that trait use that space to write what year they were established.
Me too... It doesn't have nearly enough details to be a stoplight, but I can't imagine why else it would HAVE a yellow sign there, especially the way it's not directly on top of the pole. |
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| RTCombo | May 18 2010, 02:32 PM Post #56 |
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Yeah, unless it's a sign for a store nearby. Whatever it's meant to be it sure is causing confusion. Also, going back to your ambulance question earlier. I'll go with inconsistency, unless there's a hospital on the street on the other Cul-De-Sac or further down the street. There's bound to be a few things there (the big white truck in BPS wasn't stopping there for nothing ;), plus there seems to be a house on the other side of the lane. I somewhat consider the street with this house to be the one with the haunted house and the possibly the house with the dog. Posted Image |
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| AnimatEd | May 18 2010, 05:31 PM Post #57 |
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The street the BPS truck was on wasn't the same street I made a cul-de-sac. The one I made a cul-de-sac is across from Rethink Ave. The one with a truck on it is across from the construction site's cul-de-sac. In my original map, I did place my 3rd cul-de-sac next to Rethink Ave., but judging from any overhead background in the show, there's a long (and apparently GIGANTIC) woodsy area from behind Edd's part of the lane all the way down to the gag factory, so any shot where houses are seen on both sides of the lane is a mistake. There are a lot of these in season 1. When Eddy stands on Nazz's fence in 'Pop Goes the Ed', you can see a whole other row of houses behind hers, even though series canon says that there should be woods, fields, and/or the left side of the junkyard if you walk in a straight line behind her part of the lane. Rethink Ave. is an isolated area and any time they place houses behind characters' houses, it's an inconsistency. |
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| Kirkland22 | May 18 2010, 05:49 PM Post #58 |
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Sorry to digress from what this thread is supposed to be about, but I notice that you're calling the cul-de-sac street "Rethink Ave." when I remembered it to be "Rathink Ave.", as seen on Eddy's wallet in 'Your Ed Here.' Now I also remember seeing "Rethink" on Eddy's postcard in the BPS, so I'm not sure what to call the street, considering it is named "Rathink" in one episode and "Rethink" in another. Go figure. ;) Also, not sure if you touched on this topic earlier in this thread, but where is that abandoned hearse as seen in the Boo Haw Haw? I haven't watched that episode in almost a month, so I can't remember where the hearse was placed. And do you think it was moved or towed away after this episode? Some thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated! |
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| AnimatEd | May 18 2010, 07:32 PM Post #59 |
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In Scotland, and possibly other countries, 'Your Ed Here' is aired with his wallet saying Rethink instead of Rathink, so Rethink is the official one (having appeared twice) and Rathink is presumably a typo. Very few countries have the correct version of the episode, apparently. When a Scottish member mentioned it on T3E, I dismissed it as their eyes playing tricks on them, but now the movie agrees with that version of 'Your Ed Here'. Rathink also doesn't make any sense, whereas Rethink is at least a word. If Rathink were a play on the word "Ratfink," then why would they not just write the 'f'? XP BPS also makes Eddy's "220" house number official, which I remember being a hot topic when 'Your Ed Here' came out, because his house number was 200 in 'To Sir With Ed'. Here's the T3E thread about the UK airings that read "Rethink": http://the3eds.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=162...ink+ave#p342719 Also, someone pointed out to me recently that, in 'The Eds Are Coming', there was an address on Jimmy's postcard that could be used to sync up with Eddy's address so we could figure out what all the kids' addresses are. But when we looked, the street name on the postcard wasn't Rethink at all, and the house number was all the way up in the 1000s. XP I hope Jimmy just got someone else's mail, because that's quite a weird continuity error.
My first map is mainly a map of Boo Haw Haw, but a lot of things have changed since the beginning of season 5, so I don't know where to put the Boo Haw Haw locations now. I'm afraid to add them to my new map. XD The street the Eds are on when Nazz steals Edd is no longer the cul-de-sac, and is an oddly designed street we've never seen before (I LOVE this street, it's really interesting to look at). But when the Eds ride the wagon down a street and crash into the hearse, the houses look like the end of the cul-de-sac (also, Ed runs behind one of the weird houses and ends up in the construction site, as if he had ran behind one of the houses on the right side of Rethink Ave.).. But maybe they just forgot to stick to the weird houses and the Eds were continuing down this weird street. If that is the case, this street ends at a T-shaped intersection, and the hearse was located at the top line of this T. My feeling is that it would have to be to the right of the cul-de-sac, because this section of Peach Creek is barely touched on in the series, so it's more open to the kinds of undeveloped areas seen in BHH. The left of the cul-de-sac seems to be the more congested and developed area of Peach Creek. I don't think the hearse has been towed. It seems like it's been there for years, so I guess nobody minds it being there, or the neighbors there assume it belongs to one of the houses around it. I have a whole little story in my mind about it because it appears in the fanmovie I'm making, but I don't want to spoil anything, especially since my explanatory story wouldn't actually be touched on in my movie so I don't want it to be a letdown. XD |
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| Waffles | May 18 2010, 08:19 PM Post #60 |
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I always thought Rathink was a fusion of the words 'rat' and 'think'. I think that makes sense, considering Eddy's personality. |
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