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Mapping Out: Peach Creek As A Whole; It's no longer about the school anymore
Topic Started: May 2 2010, 06:59 AM (7,078 Views)
AnimatEd
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I hate to double post, but it just occured to me yesterday that there's fairly canon evidence in the show supporting my belief that the cul-de-sac is actually pointing to the east rather than north. The sun rises in the east and sets in the west. In 'A Town Called Ed' (and I'm sure other episodes), the sun rises from behind the factory (which I've been saying is how the Eds reached the east coast in the movie). In 'Cool Hand Ed', the sun sets behind the mountains in the opposite direction of the factory. So heading towards the circle of the cul-de-sac would be going east and heading away from the circle is west. : D Also, the sun rises behind the school in 'Too Smart for His Own Ed', so the school's east, which agrees with the Eds' paths to/from school in 'Mission Ed-Possible' and 'A Town Called Ed'. YAY! 8D

Now, granted, I'm sure there's a lot of contradictory scenes since the sky is so interchangeable and the sun will go anywhere if it helps the scene artistically. The Eds walk into the sunset after Edd and Eddy's fight in the movie, even though they're heading to the east coast, for example. XD And for the sake of a "time is passing" joke, they're likely to have the sun and moon go straight up and down. But the examples I've listed above seem unimportant enough that they could be canon, especially since they all work out so well (characters aren't doing anything dramatic that requires the sun, and the sun's just there for setting purposes, not a joke).
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I hate to double post

Don't, this thread's on life support. It'll need all the posts it can get :lol.

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It just occured to me yesterday that there's fairly canon evidence in the show supporting my belief that the cul-de-sac is actually pointing to the east rather than north. The sun rises in the east and sets in the west.

That's great. But if what you're saying is true then is the school located east of the Cul-De-Sac?
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Yeah, it should be to the right of the junkyard, beyond the giant purple woods (based on most of the episodes that show the kids going home from school).

I think I had more ideas to post recently, but I can't think of them now... ):
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The Kankers are supposed to past the woods, right? In some episodes, the Eds don't even go through the woods...or across the creek, perhaps?

Oh, and where exactly is that old shed from, 'If It Smells Like an Ed'?
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It depends where you're coming from. If you mean what surrounds the trailer park, there's some woods behind the trailer park, but surrounding the rest of it is the creek and the construction site. There's a lot of woods in the area, so you'd probably pass SOME form of woods, but I don't think the Eds would really have to walk through woods to get there unless they were coming from the junkyard or the school.

The shed is most likely in the woods behind the playground, or the woods behind Jimmy's house. It may be more likely that it's behind Jimmy's house, though, because I think that'd more likely have the creek run through it and the kids were running long enough to get there.

HEY, I found some lost backgrounds/concepts from the movie that should be fun for mapping! =D

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A bg that didn't make it into the peach orchard scene. It looks as though Kevin would've biked across a bridge over the creek, validating where I placed it on my map and aiding our theory that the swimming hole could be in those woods before the peach orchard somewhere. : D

The rest of these are locations left out of the movie entirely.

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Some strangely minimalist woods! (possibly an early idea for the woods around the Gag Factory)
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A caaaave! (I'd theorize that this was by the waterfall)
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WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IN THE CITY!!!
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MORE OF THE CITY!!!
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A RUN-DOWN DRIVE-IN THEATER POSSIBLY IN THE CITY!!!
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I hate double posting but I think about the map so much that no one can keep up. XD

A while back we were discussing where the cafeteria was in the school, and we were focusing on 'A Fistful of Ed'. I felt like it looked as though the cafeteria was on an higher floor because of how they drew the field outside the window, the tree's placement, and how far it seemed like Jonny fell. But I just noticed that when Ed tunnels out of the room, there's dirt below the floor... And I also remembered that Sarah corkscrews through the floor earlier in the scene. So I guess the cafeteria is on the first floor, away from the boiler room or any other basement rooms?

When Rolf threw the cupids out the caf window in HPH, it seemed like they were high up then too, but I guess all those window shots could easily be misleading...

So if this is at ground level, that causes some confusion with the gymnasium... The gymnasium seems to take up most of the bottom floor of the bigger building, and the smaller building doesn't seem to actually have many rooms on the main floor. The actual classes and hallways in the small building are both up a flight of stairs and down a flight of stairs (confusingly, 'Out With the Old...' has a sign claiming the gym would be in the back of this lower floor, even though that would make it partially underground...) I guess if the gym is in the big building, then the caf can be somewhere in the lower floor of the small building...

Now I can't figure out how the small building works. Maybe the lower floor is ground level and the main floor is raised up a bit because of how tall the entrance stairs are? I dunno, I guess the school just doesn't make sense.
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Maybe the school isn't meant to make sense. The series started out as three boys having fun during their summer break, I don't think the school was meant to be anything more than a gag (which I find a shame since it's one of my favorite aspects of E,EnE).

For the times that the outside of the cafeteria have been seen they didn't seem that high up to me. I thought that the artists just made it seem like Jonny fell a great depth to make it look like he got injured very badly and in the case of the cupids, again I thought that the artists were just making it seem more painful.

I was wondering about what takes up the big and small buildings. I always thought that the gym and shower rooms took up a majority of the first floor of the bigger building and on top of it was the library and eventually the rooftop where the Eds & Jonny were making their plane to escape. But then again I think in Cool Hand Ed when Jonny goes into the school at the beginning we see classrooms on the first floor of the bigger building... :facewall.
In any case I think that a majority of the classrooms are within the smaller building as well the nurses office, cafeteria, janitor's room, Principal's office (if there is one), teachers lounge, the front desk (or whatever was seen in No Speak Da Ed) and possibly the lost and found.
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Maybe the school isn't meant to make sense. The series started out as three boys having fun during their summer break, I don't think the school was meant to be anything more than a gag (which I find a shame since it's one of my favorite aspects of E,EnE).


Yeah, it really isn't, just like all the other building interiors in the show... But many pages ago, Kirk and I were trying to figure it out anyway. XD

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I thought that the artists just made it seem like Jonny fell a great depth to make it look like he got injured very badly and in the case of the cupids, again I thought that the artists were just making it seem more painful.


I s'pose that's an acceptable explanation! It wouldn't be the first time their world was distorted to convey an idea.

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But then again I think in Cool Hand Ed when Jonny goes into the school at the beginning we see classrooms on the first floor of the bigger building... :facewall.


That was actually the smaller building that we saw first floor classrooms in. It doesn't contradict your understanding of the big building (although 'Out With the Old...' does, because of a sign on the lower floor of the small building) but it does contradict how 'Out With the Old...' claimed that none of the classes in the smaller building should be on the first floor. There's a main lobby on the first floor, and then a staircase leading up to some classes, and a staircase leading down to some other classes.

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In any case I think that a majority of the classrooms are within the smaller building as well the nurses office, cafeteria, janitor's room, Principal's office (if there is one), teachers lounge, the front desk (or whatever was seen in No Speak Da Ed) and possibly the lost and found.


I think I remember the nurse's office being in the same hallway as the entrance to the gym. The janitor's closet is next to the library in the big building and his boiler room is in the basement below the lower floor of the small building. The principal's office was seen partially in 'No Speak Da Ed', from the front desk. It was a yellow room with a big arm chair and a blank photo on the wall behind the chair. There was probably a table too but I don't remember if it was visible in the shot. The lost and found is on your right when you enter the small building.
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I think I remember the nurse's office being in the same hallway as the entrance to the gym.

Speaking of that entrance, do you suppose it could be (one of) the doors which connects the bigger building to the smaller (if my theory on how the gym occupies a majority of the bigger building is correct).

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The janitor's closet is next to the library in the big building and his boiler room is in the basement below the lower floor of the small building. The principal's office was seen partially in 'No Speak Da Ed', from the front desk. It was a yellow room with a big arm chair and a blank photo on the wall behind the chair. There was probably a table too but I don't remember if it was visible in the shot. The lost and found is on your right when you enter the small building.

Wow, we might have enough to create blueprints for the school's floorplans.
Where do you think the vending machine seen in "A Fistful of Ed" is? Also where do you think the happy clucker's club room and school newsroom are?
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Speaking of that entrance, do you suppose it could be (one of) the doors which connects the bigger building to the smaller


I think that must be a hallway that connects the two buildings. It's hard to prove that since there's little canon to how things are arranged in the school, but I believe there's a hallway exposed on that floor when the small building flips over in 'Look Before You Ed', and there's a few episodes where you can see the bigger building through hallway windows, suggesting that the next visible hallway is inside that building.

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Wow, we might have enough to create blueprints for the school's floorplans.
Where do you think the vending machine seen in "A Fistful of Ed" is? Also where do you think the happy clucker's club room and school newsroom are?


I'd attempt it but I feel like my brain would eventually explode from the contradictions. XD

The happy clucker's club was the science lab, and that's implied to be next to the nurse's office, since Eddy sneaks into the next room in 'This Won't Hurt an Ed', and then Ed says he found Eddy hiding in the science lab. However, Ed walks from the direction of the gym, so maybe Eddy ran from one classroom to another to find better hiding spots. It is most likely on the first or lower floor of the small building. One vending machine was outside the cafeteria, I don't know if Kevin's vending machine could've been the same one... There seem to be vending machines scattered throughout the school, the only ones with official placement being visible from the entrance of the smaller building. I remember some on the 2nd floor but don't remember if there were also ones in the lobby.

I don't remember any real evidence for the school newsroom's placement... I don't think anything in that episode was really a familiar part of the school.
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The photography club room and art room then?
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The Photography club was the Art room. That's apparently on the opposite wall from Eddy's locker, and at the end we see Eddy throwing bags of the photos out of that room from a second story window. I'm pretty sure it's against the back of the 2nd story of the smaller building, then.

The Music room is in the little area that Jimmy was doing math homework in, in 'Too Smart...' I sometimes think the Art room is in there too, but I'm pretty sure I checked that earlier in this thread and it wasn't there.
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Heyyy... I might as well reveal a secret project I've been working on.

I made a wiki to detail my thoughts on EEnE's world map in an organized manner. http://peachcreek.wikia.com/wiki/Peach_Creek_Wiki

There'll always be more for me to add, but I want to be clear that I intend this to be more like a website than a wiki. I've locked most, if not all, of the pages so that only admins can edit them. I just really want to make sure that my clear understanding of the show is left in tact, because I feel like the EEnE wiki has too many edits from poorly-informed fans. They didn't even know Scoot had a name, who Scoot and James were caricatures of, or that Eddy's brother had a teddy bear with a noose around its neck!
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AnimatEd,Jan 11 2011
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Heyyy... I might as well reveal a secret project I've been working on.

I made a wiki to detail my thoughts on EEnE's world map in an organized manner.  http://peachcreek.wikia.com/wiki/Peach_Creek_Wiki

There'll always be more for me to add, but I want to be clear that I intend this to be more like a website than a wiki.  I've locked most, if not all, of the pages so that only admins can edit them. I just really want to make sure that my clear understanding of the show is left in tact, because I feel like the EEnE wiki has too many edits from poorly-informed fans.  They didn't even know Scoot had a name, who Scoot and James were caricatures of, or that Eddy's brother had a teddy bear with a noose around its neck!

Nice to have a relieable wiki out there.

I myself have been interested in the school.

Wasn't the news room like the plant room. really no distinctifying location only being on the inside of the building.
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Thank you. : >

And yeah, I don't think they ever clarified where either of those places were. The news room was next to a hallway that had a big picture of a graduating student, which could've helped us figure out where it was, but I don't think the hallway with that picture appeared in any other episodes.
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Upon learning from a background poster that Peach Creek has a shore, I felt the urge to map out the county and its roads. Featured here are, from left to right, the unnamed Jawbreaker Factory Town, the Desert, Peach Creek, Lemon Brook, the unnamed Swamp Town, and the City. I made a few assumptions for PC's streets and some areas' woods, but otherwise it's all stuff we've seen in episodes.

I would've made a key to explain what certain markings are, but I'm lazy. I might explain what everything is later, but hopefully you'll recognize it.

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Here's a swf so you can right click and zoom in on the details: http://www.swfcabin.com/open/1297115805
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The unnamed swamp town? Is that the area where Kevin and Nazz ended up before Nazz was kidnapped by the Kankers in BPS?

Also, on your map above, do the Eds go north or south of the desert to get to Eddy's Bro?
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Yes, and where the Kankers captured Rolf and where Edd and Eddy had their fight and where Kevin got kidnapped by the Kankers.

The Eds get lost in the desert because everything looks the same and end up going back north of the cul-de-sac through Peach Creek to get to Bro in the city's downtown area. Sarah, Jimmy, Kankers, Kevin, Nazz and Jonny were all shown going north of the cul-de-sac to get to Mondo (and the locales seen after the desert all look like more thought-out versions of the field and factory we usually see behind the cul-de-sac), while the Eds (and Rolf) clearly went south of the cul-de-sac to get to the desert, so we've gotta make some excuses about how the Eds got back north. : P

It's about time this thread came back to life. XP
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Looking at that map, the desert appears surprisingly small. As I remembered it in the BPS, it stretched on for miles (Eddy mentions "only rock for miles" also, which suggests that the desert is large). For some reason, when I look at that map I think, "Jeez, the desert should stretch much farther outwards." Then again, maybe I'm wrong.

Maybe this observation can be aided if there are other shots of the desert. Was it in any other episode besides the BPS? Because I think I vaguely remember something… or perhaps I'm just getting mixed up with the BPS footage. : P

Also, yes, it was about time this thread was revived. Been back from a long EEnE-lacking six months or so. Lots of things have been keeping me away for a while, yet I still find time to come back here every day but not post in this thread. I get distracted by the rest of the forum and forget about this part, I guess. :/
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Looking at that map, the desert appears surprisingly small. As I remembered it in the BPS, it stretched on for miles (Eddy mentions "only rock for miles" also, which suggests that the desert is large). For some reason, when I look at that map I think, "Jeez, the desert should stretch much farther outwards." Then again, maybe I'm wrong.


I dunno, the desert's already about the size of Peach Creek turned sideways, so I'd say that's miles and miles. And I didn't draw where it ends to the left either. XP Not that we can take Eddy's word as fact anyway, he's just guessing.

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Was it in any other episode besides the BPS? Because I think I vaguely remember something… or perhaps I'm just getting mixed up with the BPS footage. : P


Haha, wow, it's been so long since you were in this thread that you've forgotten they never went out of Peach Creek before BPS other than 'Run Ed Run'; no we never saw the desert before. XD A more cliche desert was seen in the comic 'Eds on Wheels' and Ed has pictures of such a cliche desert all over his house, but it's unknown if there canonly is one nearby, if it's close to the BPS desert, or if it's in the BPS desert.

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Also, yes, it was about time this thread was revived. Been back from a long EEnE-lacking six months or so. Lots of things have been keeping me away for a while, yet I still find time to come back here every day but not post in this thread. I get distracted by the rest of the forum and forget about this part, I guess. :/


Well, glad to have you back!
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