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| Mapping Out: Peach Creek As A Whole; It's no longer about the school anymore | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: May 2 2010, 06:59 AM (7,084 Views) | |
| AnimatEd | Jun 27 2010, 05:26 AM Post #261 |
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It's not canon, because you can tell from the roof placement that it would have to be on the front or the back of the house, and on the right-hand side of whichever section it's on. But the right side of the front of Eddy's house is a garage and the right side of the back of Eddy's house is the door to Eddy's room.
Well, we never see them again, so they're not very official, but I guess we could say that there's a sub-level of canon where things like water towers exist in PC but are beyond the level of detail the artists are willing to actually draw. That said, it looks like this would either be INSIDE the junkyard or right outside of it, in the field. At least the smokestack should be inside the junkyard, because there's no other space for a nearby factory (Gag Factory's too far away) and 'Dawn of the Eds' suggests that there are buildings inside the junkyard that control the car compactors. These car compacting machines probably fit into the aforementioned sub-level of canon, since those feel more like the artists simply have no reason to include them than it feels like they should've never existed.
I wasn't sure what was bothering me about that background, but I think you nailed it. XD It's a ridiculously sharp curve and portions of the side of the road are missing. All the drivers get as warning is that little yellow sign. And TRUCKS are driving on it! Those truck drivers must be scared out of their minds! When I took those cliff screenshots, I was under the impression that the two left-side screenshots were the same background, but now I'm staring intently at the details and noticing that those are actually two different backgrounds, even though the artists could've easily reused the first one! Kudos, backgrounds artists! I'm gonna say that redeems them for not coloring in the possible-creek in 'Mission Ed-Possible.' XD
While I initially loved the horse picture on her wall the most (since every other horse drawing in the show has been only a silhouette), and also think her bed is really interesting, I think the most interesting discovery in her room is that poster on the top left corner of the shot with the bed. You can almost make out the design of a diva/pop star! =O Intriguing... |
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| Kirkland22 | Jun 27 2010, 04:19 PM Post #262 |
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Good point. A lot of season 1 episodes are like this - many rooms and other places are not in the canon locations as they are in later episodes.
Right. And this whole area might not even be as close as we think to the cul-de-sac - perhaps it's farther into Peach Creek? Of course, it can't be too far away, because the trailer park can be accessed sorta close to the area.
Hmm… that's an interesting thought. Perhaps that smokestack is from that factory-type thing in the junkyard.
Yeah, really, and I'm surprised that the truck was going at the speed it was… wouldn't it be just a tad bit more logical to go slower…? XD But cartoons are like that - safety isn't really a priority. XP
Interesting! I didn't notice this at first either.
=O Fascinating… XD Edit: Also, just out of curiosity, how many times has Kevin's Bike been destroyed in the series? I remember in 'My Fair Ed', 'Pain in the Ed', the Boo Haw Haw, and the movie, but weren't there several more instances where it's been destroyed? |
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| AnimatEd | Jun 27 2010, 06:37 PM Post #263 |
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Pffft, this made me realize how silly it is that Kevin's chase with the Eds in that episode went from inside Jonny's house all the way to the junkyard between 2 shots. XD I don't know how much farther it could be... Everything's far away when characters are IN the locations, but when seen from overhead the junkyard's pretty close.
I don't think we've seen a factory in the junkyard, though. =O I drew two buildings in my map of it to explain there the compactor machines came from, but I don't think we ever saw any actual buildings in there. Are you thinking of the factory behind the cul-de-sac again?
Haha, a normal car would have to go slow, but a truck should barely MOVE along that! XD Guess it was a skilled garbage truck driver. A professional!
I've been meaning to look into that, because it does feel like there's more, but those are usually all I can think of. It takes some damage in a few 'Quick Shot Ed' scenes, crashing into trash cans and falling into the garbage truck with Kevin, and I'm sure there's some other episodes with undramatic damage like that.. I think it gets ruined off screen in 'Scrambled Ed' because of Edd's sleep-deprived instructions for bike chain care. |
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| Kirkland22 | Jun 27 2010, 08:48 PM Post #264 |
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Haha, yeah, that is quite silly, but you do have to remember that only a FEW things in season 1 are canon. XD
I think so… Here's a screenshot of what I am talking about (you mentioned this could be the Lemon Brook Gag Factory, I think): Posted Image And sorry, that image turned out to be a lot larger than I thought.
In real life, I don't think trucks are permitted to go on tight roads like this anyway… XD
Oh, and also, it could have been destroyed in 'Rambling Ed' when Rolf was yelling "The burden of hospitality is too great for Rolf!", and Kevin was distracted, thus crashing into the hydrant. Any more you can think of? |
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| Berb | Jun 27 2010, 10:17 PM Post #265 |
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Ah-hem! 'Shoo-ed' , I thought you guys caught that one! "Hey Kevin, I'm the bike pixie - catch me if you can! ...." XD Thought it was 'Pain in the ed' for a second but, realized you had that one.There is also 'Mission Ed possible', Edd takes the bike and it gets destroyed, We actually see the after math, Oh shoot thought I could think of more. @ AnimatEd : Yeah, still waiting on the tally. lol been curious myself . I'm guessing half a dozen at least! |
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| AnimatEd | Jun 27 2010, 10:54 PM Post #266 |
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Yeah, the gag factory is the factory behind the cul-de-sac, and I think that may have been an early idea for what the factory looks up close up, but it could be a closer factory, I suppose, hidden behind the junkyard or something... It seems more logical to say these are locations that we've actually seen existing, though. Not sure how many things we can cram into the woods before it becomes ridiculous that people would set up business there. XD Speaking of things hidden in the woods, when I was watching 'If It Smells...', it occured to me that the ramshackle shed in the woods could've been something Eddy's brother made as a hang out, back before the woods next to the cul-de-sac were mowed down to make room for the construction site. I imagine him getting a lot of use out of these woods, since they weren't always a developing cul-de-sac.
My dad drives trucks so I overhear a lot of his online trucking tests, and yeah, that's would NOT be a smart place to drive a truck, and I think garbage trucks drive slow anyway.
Oh yeah! And I think it was wrecked more than once in 'My Fair Ed', but you already mentioned that episode. OH OH OH! It was destroyed in 'Mission Ed-Possible'! Can't think of anything else... EDIT: Nazzie beat me to that last example and 'Shoo Ed' was a good one to remember! Can't think of anything else. >: |
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| Kirkland22 | Jun 28 2010, 02:53 AM Post #267 |
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Oh, hello there, Nazzie. :)
I really have a hard time believing that that's the gag factory. I mean, I know we talked about it earlier, but I just keep telling myself that that factory we see in the screenshot I posted is different. XP
Well, if it was made by Eddy's Brother, then I think Edd and Eddy would have addressed it differently than "that shed". They made it seem like it was their first time knowing about the shed, you know.
Really? Huh, well, even one without much knowledge of truck driving could easily tell that this is not a very good place to be driving a truck. XD
Ah, yes, how could I forget those? XD Thanks, guys, I was just curious about it. Oh! Oh! And then I think the bike gets destroyed offscreen in 'One of Those Eds' when Kevin is trying to remove the quarter by latching a hook onto the quarter while moving the bike. |
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| AnimatEd | Jun 28 2010, 04:13 AM Post #268 |
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Yeah, while I firmly believe the Gag Factory is the one behind the cul-de-sac, when I looked at that again after our discussion, I'm kinda thinking this factory isn't the factory behind the cul-de-sac at all. Guess it could be a third factory that's in the aforementioned sub-genre of canon?
I never said Bro told anyone about it. He probably just wanted to drink and smoke in a cool private place. Eddy wasn't nearly as involved in Bro's life as Eddy claims to be. XP
Oh yeah! And the bike may have been damaged by Eddy's digestive system or by Ed tossing the bike in 'Don't Rain on my Ed'.. |
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| Berb | Jun 28 2010, 04:53 PM Post #269 |
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I almost put "One of those eds" but wasn't sure to count it. What about "See no Ed" ... He pulls the bike while falling, would that count since it bounced away? |
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| AnimatEd | Jun 28 2010, 06:15 PM Post #270 |
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That might count... He also gets knocked off the bike in 'Read All About Ed' and we don't see what happens to it as a result of it being driverless. Ummm... I want to stay on the mapping topic, but I can't think of anything right now... xP |
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| Kirkland22 | Jun 28 2010, 07:56 PM Post #271 |
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Yes, I kinda figured it was a third factory. But it almost doesn't make sense if Peach Creek is mostly a residential town, why would there be three, possibly more, factories in the area? XD Maybe it's more of an industrial town! =O
True, true. I need to watch 'If it Smells Like An Ed' again soon, I can't remember too much of how the inside appeared. I think it was mostly empty. And yes, the See No Ed bike-crashing would definitely count. I was thinking about the 'Read All About Ed' one, but when I came to post it, I realized AnimatEd already mentioned it. XD Hmm… I can't think of anymore as much as I try to think. Let's tally up all the destructions and possible destructions of the bike now, shall we? |
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| AnimatEd | Jun 28 2010, 10:22 PM Post #272 |
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Well, there's the LEMON BROOK Gag Factory, and the jawbreaker factory is in the town on the other side of Peach Creek, so PC is the only town in the area that's missing a factory. This is interesting! =O I wonder what this factory does... And if it's related to the construction site company... Have we decided that this factory is hidden in the woods next to the junkyard and that's why we don't see it?
There was a desk with a roll of toilet paper on it, a table with an "XXX" bottle on it, and a light... I think that was it. And all the "DOOM" and "DANGER" etchings in the shed fit in with the weird labels in Bro's room, like "Decay."
I think we're up to 12 episodes (including movie)... I might have missed one or counted one twice because we keep bringing up the same ones and some of these have it possibly get destroyed more than once. |
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| Kirkland22 | Jun 29 2010, 03:02 AM Post #273 |
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Hmm… I don't really know. But what I do know is that it's some factory with some unknown purpose. I guess that's all we'll ever find out?
One can only imagine what the "XXX" bottle contains. =O But yeah, it does seem like an ideal retreat for Eddy's Brother, all hidden from everyone else there in the woods.
Well, true. 12 sounds about right, though I'm sure we are missing several more. Let's stay on this subject, and when we continue to watch the episodes in search of things to map out, we can also look for bike-destroying instances. |
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| AnimatEd | Jun 29 2010, 05:44 AM Post #274 |
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It looks like it has junk piles around it, so I guess it could be associated with the junkyard. I used to confuse the construction site and the junkyard because they both have piles of dirt/refuse everywhere. XD Probably not enough evidence to say that a junkyard-related factory is related to a construction site company, though.
It means that it's a bottle of moonshine. The XXX is a designation of its alcohol concentration, and which I think they refer to as "triple mark" or something along those lines... ...I can't think of anything to map out. D: |
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| Kirkland22 | Jun 29 2010, 04:52 PM Post #275 |
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Right. I think it does have something to do with the junkyard, on account of it being placed right behind the junkyard. What else could it be? I'm sure it's some type of trash compacting/processing plant, don't you think?
I see. Interesting. =O
You're not alone. And the fact that my computer is getting slower and slower doesn't help much. Whenever I try to do things like watch YouTube videos, it lags and lags and I'm never able to watch the video without it pausing. :/ Time for a new computer. I guess we could talk about the path to the ramshackle shed. We talked a bit about it many pages back in the thread, but I don't think we ever mapped out the path leading to it. Shall we give that a shot? |
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| AnimatEd | Jun 29 2010, 05:15 PM Post #276 |
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Makes enough sense for me! But it doesn't have to be behind the junkyard anymore, because that was back when we thought it was the factory behind the cul-de-sac. Now that we're free of that crutch, this could be placed much closer to the junkyard, maybe in the woods next to it, which is across from where I place the school. =O
Well, it seemed to be a branch of the lane, in one of those not-entirely-canon moments where the lane only has one row of fences. I guess it would just be a winding path through the woods behind the playground or behind Jimmy's house at the furthest. I wonder if that was a non-canon part of the creek that was going through the woods, or if that was a different body of water... |
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| Kirkland22 | Jun 29 2010, 08:29 PM Post #277 |
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Hmm… I wouldn't think a factory would be placed next to a school. XD I really don't think it's near the school at all, I mean, it appears it's just right there next to the junkyard. Not in woods or anything else.
Hmm… maybe this is a different lane? It's possible, and maybe the woods next to it are different than the woods near the trailer park? Do we ever see much of what's behind the ramshackle shed? Is it just more trees, or is there something else to sight? |
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| AnimatEd | Jun 29 2010, 09:54 PM Post #278 |
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Ohhh, are you suggesting that it's part of that sublevel of canon from before? I don't include many big things like that in there, but that would make it a lot easier to accept how it's able to be in there with so little room. XD
The woods behind the trailer park are different from the playground woods because they're separated by the creek, and there's also a big treeless space around that part of the creek. The way they set up the area outside of the lane makes it feel like the cul-de-sac's lane on the playground's side, as does the Chimp Wurld scam, but now that you mention it, these could be a completely different lane next to some woods. That'd explain why there's so many inconsistencies in episodes with this area. And yeah, I think it was just trees behind the shed. I've been rewatching BPS, and noticed that something I hate about the playground was fixed! Posted Image They put a fence in front of the woods! And now the whole fence is more realistic, because it has multiple entrances for people to walk through, and the path is now a bit more defined in where it's leading people. Still no lane entrance, though, and lots of the attractions are missing. Also, Part of me thinks it's possible that the path leading into the woods COULD've been the lane in the woods in 'If It Smells', but I guess the "different street" idea makes more sense... I also included the wider shot because I love how much it includes: mostly correctly detailed cul-de-sac, playground, various woods, construction site, creek, trailer park, both dumps, electrical towers.. And in a somewhat new subject, I'm interested in mapping out BHH and figuring out how exactly the path in this map takes the Eds back to the cul-de-sac: Posted Image (screenshot by T3E's GabbyLogic) |
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| Kirkland22 | Jun 30 2010, 02:49 AM Post #279 |
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What sublevel of canon do you mean? *is confused*
Right. It's likely that it's in some other part of town.
Wow, you're right! The fence is blocking off not three-fourths of the playground but all of it! Hmm… fascinating. And the playground seems to be lacking a lot of things that we see in "Who Let the Ed in?".
Yeah! We can really see a lot in that shot. With that in mind, do you notice that fenced-off area behind the trailer park woods in that shot? What is that… part of the junkyard?
Ohh! That map might be interesting to think about… What can we determine from it? It doesn't seem to be REALLY clear… |
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| AnimatEd | Jun 30 2010, 04:31 AM Post #280 |
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The one where the PC water tower can exist next to the junkyard without the artists needing to draw it in more than one episode. We accept that it's there because it's never been shown anywhere else and because it's a pretty important feature for the town to have, even though it's only been drawn in one episode.
I like how it's more professional/realistic in how they designed the fence, but less realistic in how more than half of the attractions we've seen there previously are missing. XD Playground equipment is annoying to draw, though, so I can't really blame them for not wanting to include so many things in a really small drawing of it. BUT GEEZ, IT LOOKS SO EMPTY! Most of the rides are pushed to the back of the park and the front part half pretty much nothing, save one bench and one lamp.
That's the main junkyard, the Eds hardly ever use the one without a fence.
Well, I wasn't really suggesting that we try to make something out of Bro's drawing, it's mostly just tells you what order things are in, so it basically just sums up the episode. XD My basic idea is that the Eds got about 2 blocks away from the cul-de-sac to the wealthy houses where Nazz was trick-or-treating, and then wagoned down that street (in the direction of the right of the cul-de-sac), into the abandoned hearse, which would be at the end of the road to the right of the construction site. Then behind that road would be all that BPS stuff, from the cliff, to the big oak tree, to the PC swamp (as opposed to the nameless town's swamp in BPS), to the area with a weird boulder balancing on top of a thin, tall rock, to the small gorge before the giant boulders where Rolf collected mushrooms. I think around this area, the path would start getting close to the cul-de-sac again, with the boulders being right behind the street to the right of the construction site. The wooden bridge went over another creek and the woods after that somehow connected to woods leading to the cul-de-sac... In my old BHH map, I tried to make sense of this by having the woods cross back over this new creek, lead into woods on the street next to the school, into the woods around the junkyard/the trailer park woods, into the woods behind Jimmy's house, and out into the circle of the cul-de-sac. Along this route, they'd have to cross creeks and streets, but I think it's plausible enough. |
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