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| Mapping Out: Peach Creek As A Whole; It's no longer about the school anymore | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: May 2 2010, 06:59 AM (7,073 Views) | |
| RTCombo | May 2 2010, 06:59 AM Post #1 |
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I was bored the other day and decided to watch a few E,EnE episodes. Mostly season 5 episodes and I got interested in trying to map out Peach Creek. Starting with the school, I made this thread since I'm curious how everyone thinks it connects to the main Cul-De-Sac and to share a few of my own findings. One route I've found from the school to the Cul-De-Sac is this: Posted Image Go through the football field fence to the forest. Posted Image Walk through the forest to the junkyard. I forgot to take screen-caps for the rest, but it's basicly going through the Cul-De-Sac that's under construction then either through the park or lane which'll lead to the house next to Kevin and across the street from Edd. To my memoy this route is taken in the episodes Mission Ed-Possible and A Town Called Ed if you want to check. Now there seems to be another route the kids could take. Posted Image I'm not sure how, but appearently you can take the street next to the parking lot (which itself is next to the basketball court seen in Truth or Ed) which should actually be the opposite direction of the Cul-De-Sac, since the parking lot is on the (when looked at from the front) right side of the school. The back side of the school is facing the Cul-De-Sac (and to a lesser extent, the Pit), shown here. Posted Image I'm guessing that the street shown below (right next to the parking lot) leads to the candy store lane/street. Posted Image Kinda odd though since Eddy and Ed walk home on this street here (in Pick an Ed if you want to check). Posted Image Anyone got any theories? |
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| AnimatEd | May 2 2010, 08:41 PM Post #2 |
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I've asked a storyboard artist about it and she admitted that they never bothered to keep track of where the school is, and I think it may have even been a joke that the school was never in the same place (to poke fun at how the school never existed before HPH). Even the locations of the school's facilities change: in your screenshot of Too Smart For His Own Ed, the track field is missing from the left side of the school, plus the parking lot has been expanded and the Truth or Ed basketball court is missing (it should be behind the parking lot with a concrete handball wall behind it, not to the left of the lot as seen in that pic). Also, you can see in that screenshot and in most episodes, the bus round-about in front of the school is its own cul-de-sac-esque road, but in episodes like 'Pick an Ed' (in your pic for that ep) and possibly 'Run Ed Run' (can't remember) it is an entire street and the buses could immediately get back to the street. Also, now that I think about it, the way the bus uses the round-about in HPH... wouldn't it have to be driving on the wrong side of the road for that to work? XP Most episodes suggest that the candy store is to the left of the cul-de-sac and the school is to the right, but the there's also a number of times where the candy store is suggested to be on the way home from the cul-de-sac, which wouldn't make any sense if they're on opposite sides. Even the episodes that do this aren't consistent about it, because 'Every Which Way But Ed' and 'Run Ed Run' have the Eds get from the school to the candy store from opposite directions (in the former, the school would be to the left of the store, in the latter it's too the right). 'Run Ed Run' is also confusing because it has a "Come Back Again" sign at the end of the store's street, implying that it's the border of Peach Creek and the jawbreaker factory and farms seen that ep are in the next town to the left (not Lemon Brook, because according to the movie, Lemon Brook is the neighboring town on the right [the movie also suggests that the cul-de-sac is really pointing to the east and that Peach Creek and its surrounding towns are longer north to south than they are east to west]). I mapped out Peach Creek, like, 4-5 years ago, focusing mainly on Mission Ed-possible (which is good, because I think most episodes that actually focus on the school's placement in relation to Rethink Ave. stay canon with the map in this ep) and Boo Haw Haw (which probably needs to be edited or just plain doesn't exist at all anymore, considering the locations in that have been added in that area since then, and it's hard to keep track of what street characters are on in BHH because they keep switching from the cul-de-sac to houses that never existed before). Other episode references are in there too, though, like Club Ed, but it's still very poorly done and makes the town look way too small in retrospect: http://animated.deviantart.com/art/Peach-C...pdated-33963365 But due to these inconsistencies, I tend to stick to what the movie shows us because it focuses on teaching us about Peach Creek more than anything else in the series has, it stays true to the most logical and canon location placements of the series, and also because it's the last official understanding of Peach Creek that we've gotten. So I made a completely new and better map in October for the movie (but keep in mind that there's indefinite numbers of houses and trees and stores so I didn't draw as many as there probably are of all those things): http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs51/f/2009/312...by_AnimatEd.swf Although I should note that I think the canon placement of the track IS on the right of the gym, but it doesn't exist in the movie and we can barely see the school in the movie, so I had to make up where everything is. XP I kinda want to make a map of just the school grounds... And the cul-de-sac across from Rethink Ave. is there because the Eds sometimes go to another cul-de-sac with houses that only exist for whatever episode the cul-de-sac is in, including the House of the Haunted (which can't be on Rethink Ave. because it would be where Eddy's house is on the cul-de-sac). And before anyone argues about how the "desert" is south of the cul-de-sac, but the field is north, and other things I've placed north, Sarah and Jimmy are DEFINITELY shown going north of the cul-de-sac (where the trailer park is), which would imply they saw other kids going this way. Rolf is the only person who follows the Eds into the desert, and since no one else hit the desert, that would ALSO mean that it's most likely that everyone else went in the opposite direction. And the Lemon Brook Gag Factory is the mysterious factory that has been behind the cul-de-sac for the entire series (you can kinda see its silhouette behind the junkyard in your A Town Called Ed screenshot, but it's more obvious in the shot of the cul-de-sac at the end of that scene). SORRY FOR MAKING MY POST THE LENGTH OF A BOOK. DX |
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| RTCombo | May 3 2010, 05:14 AM Post #3 |
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It's okay, your posts make an interesting read.
So it wasn't an electrical power plant? Then what was the green building seen behind the Eds in Dawn of the Eds before they go into the sewer pipe? Plus it was green in Once Bitten, Twice Ed (coarse E,EnE lacks continuity in that sense).
Glad you caught those ;D. Yeah, the school changes alot. In my screen-shot of TMFHOE there's one basketball hoop seen yet not a full court. I have other screen shots proving there's a full one but there was a limit as to how many images you could put up and had to leave them out. I remember some episodes having the track where the football field is (vice versa), I'll have to look at Cool Hand Ed again.
Don't worry, this is thread for mapping out the school. Not the route(s) the kids take in the movie ;). Though TBH, I'm not sure if the street connecting Rethink to the main street is a cross. Posted Image BTW, where do you think the building behind Eddy (and one seen as a silhouette beyond the yellow car) is? I thought it was just another random house in Peach Creek, but I do see a Cul-De-Sac beyond it. This one confused me most of all probably. Since it could be Edd's house, but it's little small compared to the one seen on the "Official" map. Posted Image Posted Image |
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| AnimatEd | May 3 2010, 07:25 PM Post #4 |
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That was the gag factory as well (note that it's just as broken down in Dawn of the Eds as it was in BPS, you just don't see the front side of it aaaand season 1 really had no definite background colors, the cul-de-sac was rarely colored correctly and the pipe to the junkyard never existed after that anyway..). Of course, you need to take into consideration that they likely had to change its design a little when they found out they were actually gonna focus on it, but it still has the No Trespassing sign, is broken down, and is at the end of the electrical towers (even in the movie, despite the movie clarifying that it was not a power plant; I guess the towers were just put in place to power the factory, especially considering there seems to also be a JAWBREAKER factory on the opposite end of the towers in Run Ed Run). They show the Gag Factory as a silhouette numerous times, though, which I take as a homage to how the factory USUALLY appears in the series. The official story is that they wanted it to be the factory behind the cul-de-sac, but they couldn't think of a way to explain where all the farm stuff came from between the two locations so they didn't bother to specify. Raven M. (storyboarder) and I are content with believing that the factory has actually been very far away this entire time, and is just big enough to be seen in the distance from the cul-de-sac.
I remember that too, but I'm pretty sure Cool Hand Ed is actually one of the episodes that correctly places those two fields.. The REAL confusion of that episode is: why is the cul-de-sac now BEHIND the school? The school's still behind the cul-de-sac (and, oddly enough, seems to be replacing the junkyard in that episode), but in order for the cul-de-sac to ALSO be behind the school, the school would need to be placed on the left side of whatever street it's on, which is impossible because the kids always arrive at it from the right. XP
Yeah, sorry, I got a little off-topic, but people always try to prove me wrong so I need to say ahead of time that I really did my math on these things. XD
It always changes. Like... even between two shots in the same scene, it'll switch between a cross street and nothing. Usually the rule is that it's a cross street when shot from above, but it's just a row of houses when shot from ground level (simply because it's easier to draw). I decided to compromise by not making it even with the cul-de-sac (kinda like the oddly placed cul-de-sacs we see in Run Ed Run, which I now think are in a different town since they don't match up with Rethink Ave. and the construction site) and by making it another dead-end. The movie is surprisingly consistent with it being a cross street as well as the colors of the houses on that street, and I suppose if I were following the movie more closely, I should've made it a normal street instead of a cul-de-sac, but I don't know where else the haunted house/nondescript season 1 cul-de-sac would be then. Posted Image Uploaded with ImageShack.us
I have been bothered by that too, but I don't think that's another cul-de-sac. That looks like the usual "row of houses" silhouette thing they do. If I remember correctly, another shot shows a bunch of fenced up trees, which I believe are often seen on the streets surrounding the construction site, so my theory is that Eddy was down the street to the right of the construction site, so we were kinda seeing that location from the opposite angle of how we usually see it. As for that house behind the car, I'd say that's either the house in the previous screenshot, a house a little further back on that street (since Eddy needed to make a left turn from the school's street to the street with that house), or even a nonexistent silhouette house. They've put in those filler houses pretty often... Season 1 is just overflowing with them, because they'll places houses behind the cul-de-sac houses, on the other side of the lane, which would get rid of a lot of the neighborhood's woods and fields, as well as completely replace the construction site and playground. Sometimes it's easier to just accept that it's a cartoon and the background artists probably didn't think it'd matter how they drew an imaginary town 10 years later. XD |
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| RTCombo | May 4 2010, 01:04 PM Post #5 |
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It would be easier, but you know as well as I do that that won't cut it ;D.
I see. If a staff member's saying so, there's no going beyond it then :sweatdrop.
Well in that case, I suppose I'll leave it as a cross. The only reason I used a screenshot from Jimmy's dream was that it was one of the few times the houses on the other side of the street is seen.
You mean the trees above Jimmy's head? Posted Image (Notice the Popeye reference, lol) I was thinking it was another cul-de-sac (or another street now that I look at it), that could also be where the "nondescript" houses (like the one with the dog that bit Edd's sock?) could be. Edit: (As a desparate attempt to continue the discussion :sweatdrop). Where do you think the Peach Creek Community Center (pool) is or how far do you think it is from the school itself? |
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| AnimatEd | May 4 2010, 05:40 PM Post #6 |
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Yeah, that's exactly what I was talking about. Looking at your screenshot, I had forgotten the further evidence that supports this being the street by the construction site: Just beyond Jimmy, you can see what appear to be piles of purple and grey dirt, just like the ones at the construction site. And while that house with the dog would be on the other cul-de-sac I'm talking about, I don't think that would be the area with the fenced up trees. That street seems to have fancier houses (and a lot of houses at that) and I don't think there'd be room for a little forest on their street. Peach Creek has a surprising amount of streets that are nothing but fenced up woods, though. XD
I've been trying to figure this out for a while... Well, you know that street next to the school that Kevin makes a right down and then a left to go to the peach orchard? I think the most sensible route would be for it to be a lot further down that street Kevin made a right on. Because the bus taking them back to school went from the left of the Community Pool to go back to school, meaning it should be on the school's right from some angle. And I figure it should be pretty far away since the bus passes so many houses and trees but doesn't reach the school before the scene ends (and the bus didn't seem to make any turns [though this is probably just because nobody wants to animate a vehicle turning] or stops, so that means the bus was making as fast a run as it possible could). The bus in 'Run Ed Run' didn't make any seen turns either, but I think that one must have made some turns off-screen. Kinda off-topic, but it's occurred to me that there's no stoplights in Peach Creek (other than Sarah XD) but 'Urban Ed' suggests that there's stoplights in the city... I wonder if this is an oversight on the artists' part (since there's rarely ever any stop signs either; the only real stop sign I can remember seeing is in BHH) or if Canada only uses stop lights in its cities while the suburbs don't have them.. |
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| RTCombo | May 5 2010, 08:08 AM Post #7 |
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I forgot how the other houses looked on that street (I'll have to look at it again), but if they're all fancy I'm guessing that the owner of the fancy car that Eddy was polishing in Sir Ed-a-Lot lives on that street. But I think the writers replaced the streets with woods with houses depending on the plot (all those papers in Read All About Ed must've gone somewhere). Plus I'm still stuck whether the hill from the Cul-De-Sac to the Candy Store is connected to another street (the one with the houses which had it's windows and mailboxes destroyed) before reaching the Candy Store street.
Well the bus must've made a turn after it disappeared from the street the Eds are on. Posted Image
I think I remember seeing a stop sign in Laugh Ed Laugh or whatever the sign Eddy wrapped his tongue around. And I think I remember seeing a street light in Big Picture Show (I'll look at it again). Also off topic, but have you considered how the hill and curved street in Quick Shot Ed (the one that made the Eds fall into the sewer and Kevin fall into a garbage truck) actually connect to the Cul-De-Sac? (Sorry if these are testing your patience). |
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| Kirkland22 | May 5 2010, 01:19 PM Post #8 |
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Hope you two don't mind me jumping in on this discussion. Well, if you recall, the Eds passed that curved street and landed on that tire in the sewer, which eventually floated underneath the trailer park. So, because the trailer park was very close by, I would say that this curved street might be beside Park 'n Flush, perhaps leading toward the junkyard. Because Kevin ended up biking into the garbage truck, we can assume that the junkyard might be close by, and according to that map of Peach Creek on Edtropolis.Com, Park 'n Flush is southeast of the junkyard. So, I'd say it is likely that this curved road is somewhere off to the side of Park 'n Flush. |
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| AnimatEd | May 5 2010, 07:46 PM Post #9 |
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Glad to see this isn't a 2-man thread anymore. XD I generally take that as one of those "season 1" moments where they make up new locations whenever they want. The hill Kevin was chasing them down was piles of junk in the junkyard, but I do try very often to wrap my head around where this whole cliff/sewer area is. There are sometimes little pathways around the junkyard, but they're usually un-outlined purple paths similar to the lane. Still, I'm willing to accept that this street could be a more detailed version of those. The movie actually gives some merit to this, though, by showing there's a bit of a raise in the land between the woods behind Jimmy's house and the junkyard, creating a two small cliffs by the junkyard that are separated by the creek. Since Eddy made it pretty clear that this water stunk and the creek's never smelled bad before (never heard of a sewer that wasn't underground, though), I'm content with saying there's some kind of fork in the creek where the Eds were able to make a turn into a more foul-smelling pipe rather than continuing down the creek like they normally do, and the pipe took them underneath the trailer park. But again, season 1 really had no official concept of the junkyard. The episode we're talking about shows a water tower next to the junkyard, even though we'd totally see that from the many aerial shots we've seen of the junkyard. And in the junkyard's introductory episode, there's somehow a pipe that leads from way beyond the Gag Factory, towers above Peach Creek, and then ends abruptly over the junkyard... This doesn't make sense because we'd be able to SEE this pipe in aerial shots, aaand it sounds more like gigantic playground equipment than something the town's adults would have a use for... And as for the hills Driveus mentioned, I think those are just non-canon plot devices and/or ways to simplify the process of animating someone running from one location to another. The hill allows them to hide important details on what streets lie between one location and another, so they don't need to worry about keeping up with this in the future. And if they got rid of the hill trick, it'd be really difficult to make it clear how they were running somewhere, because they could no longer show the destination from overhead and it would have to be a barely visible flat surface in the distance (which they'd also have to animate getting closer to/further away from the character). And sometimes it's just for the sake of humor, because in 'Keeping Up With the Eds' they lost control of Victor because he started rolling down a huge hill, even though they were only moving him from Ed's house to Rolf's house (which would just be moving him across the street diagonally). I don't even wanna try and figure out how Boo Haw Haw's intro (which includes a mystery hill) would possibly fit into the official map of Peach Creek.. It starts out similar to 'A Town Called Ed's route, but then they start running along streets, which I guess makes it more like 'Mission Ed-Possible's route-- OH GREAT, NOW I'M TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT ANYWAY. XP |
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| Kirkland22 | May 5 2010, 08:28 PM Post #10 |
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That is true. There were several noticeable location misplacements in season 1 that totally contradicted the later episodes. Also, I'm trying to figure out where the Swimming Hole is located. As you know, it has appeared in the episodes Hot Buttered Ed and Every Which Way But Ed, and from what I can tell, it seems to be a tributary coming off from the creek, but that may not be the case. In Hot Buttered Ed, When the Eds were leaving Ed's backyard after camping overnight, they appeared to be going in the direction of the creek or the trailer park. So, this leads me to believe that perhaps the Swimming Hole is somewhere in that area. But what are your thoughts on this? Also, I was wondering about the Waterfall. We see it appeared in the Big Picture Show, yes, but if you recall, it is also seen in Gimme Gimme Never Ed, when The Eds floated down to it from the creek (or possibly some other tributary). Are these the same waterfalls, or could they both be different? |
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| AnimatEd | May 5 2010, 09:22 PM Post #11 |
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I've been trying to figure it out for so long, and honestly think there's no way it fits into the official map. XP Like you said, we can get some idea of where it is from how they left Ed's backyard. If that episode's got anything to say about it, then it's most likely somewhere in the field, a little bit past the junkyard.. You can see a farm fence in some scenes, though, which I believe to be the borders of the cow pasture in BPS. But from what I've figured out, there's now a street between the field and the cow pasture (this street is to the left of the school and would most likely be how the bus got to the candy store in 'Run Ed Run'), and from a number of episodes we can hazard a guess that there's multiple creeks throughout Peach Creek. The official map has the main creek end at the construction site by going into a pipe (not the same pipe as in my 'Quick Shot Ed' theory) and I believe Kit (the owner of this site) has said that it's possible for creeks to be diverted underground to allow home development, so I like to think that the creek is diverted under numerous streets and pops up all over the place (in 'Will Work For Ed', as well as a few other eps I believe, there's a creek behind the candy store), eventually branching off into the watering hole somewhere alongside the cow pasture. The same BPS shot that shows the street I've placed between the field and the pasture also shows two ponds, though, and I believe one of them looked kinda like a miniature watering hole (it had a small beach). That kinda suggests that the watering hole could possibly be further past the school, but I think it makes more sense for it to be alongside the pasture somewhere. I have similar problems with where the frog pond was in "Thick as an Ed" but I think that's a little easier to accept as just being a wider segment of the creek, where it runs through a small woodsy area.
Those are definitely different waterfalls, and the Gimme Gimme Never Ed one totally doesn't exist at all (think of it as another non-canon plot device). In GGNE, they float down the creek alongside the construction site (first of all, that goes against the official map's ending point of the creek at the construction site). The way they're going down the creek would mean they were headed for the street. In order for the waterfall to be there, there would need to be just a GIGANTIC waterfall either in the middle of the street, or right on the street's edge, with the water running underneath the street. No matter how anyone tries to excuse it, though, it's just realistically impossible and would be noticeable in every single aerial shot of the estates if it were canon. The BPS waterfall is on the opposite side of the map, just past the Gag Factory (which would also suggest that this waterfall and stream are related to Lemon Brook's titular brook). If you check out the BPS map I posted earlier you can see the location I've determined for it. |
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| Kirkland22 | May 5 2010, 09:39 PM Post #12 |
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Okay, yeah, I kind of figured that the waterfalls were different. You're the most EEnE-knowledgeable person I've seen online, by the way. Just thought I'd point that out. Sorry to change the subject once more and to make you write such large responses, but there was something that puzzled me from the episode No Speak Da Ed. After Ed sees the chicken and gets grabbed by Rolf, he is taken to Rolf's property. The Eds are right outside the candy store at this moment, and when Edd and Eddy try to follow the kidnapped Ed, you can clearly see that the lane is located right across the street from the main street the Candy Store is on, and Rolf's house is just down the lane from here. I always thought that the Candy Store was a lot farther away from the cul-de-sac, because in Don't Rain on My Ed, the Eds barely were able to arrive there in 10 minutes. But since the candy store was so close to the cul-de-sac in No Speak Da Ed, this confused me as to where exactly the candy store location was. Don't Rain on my Ed also showed us that the trailer park and the construction site were in the path to the Candy Store. But isn't the candy store supposed to be on the west side of the cul-de-sac, not the east side? |
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| AnimatEd | May 5 2010, 11:24 PM Post #13 |
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Haha, thank you, it's my gift and my curse. XD
Don't worry, my posts are always huge. XP I'm gonna start by saying that 'No Speak Da Ed' messes with the candy store street in a lot of ways. The buildings next to the candy store are removed, so you get to see another lane behind the candy store and the side of the store, which has a poster on it that includes the Candy Store's logo (I just find it interesting that they copied the exact way they draw its sign for how they wrote it on the poster). In place of these missing buildings is the bus stop, which should be on the opposite side of the street. Onto your actual question: My first response is that a similar shot is used in 'Take This Ed and Shove It', where the lane around Rethink Ave. has stores across from it rather than houses or trees. After trying to figure it out a few times, I've decided that the lane is just WHEREVER the artists want it to be. The lane exists to transport the Eds whereever they want to go without actually paying attention to the map. The lane constantly changes shape and size, gains dead ends and exits, switches between having two rows of orange fenceboards, having one row, and sometimes even having a row of fence like the one around the playground (whether or not they're near the playground). And as if that weren't bad enough, EVERY STREET HAS A LANE. So then the Eds could effectively be on ANY street in Peach Creek when you see them running around in a lane. Also, 'Don't Rain On My Ed' has absolutely no sense of direction. XD It is one of the guiltiest episodes when it comes to making several contradictions to the design of the lane. First off, the Eds shouldn't've gone into the lane at all, because they were basically forcing themselves to run around the whole cul-de-sac A SECOND TIME, and then, like you said, they went to the construction site and continued running through that even though they'd be running AWAY from the candy store if BPS is correct. Then Eddy apparently runs BACK to the cul-de-sac AGAIN (and he may have also run through it again, I don't remember the shots in that part exactly), and Jimmy's house jumps from the being the farthest house from the street, to being right on the corner. Then the Eds go through the lane AGAIN, and suddenly the lane disappears and they're running down a street full of houses, which leads to the candy store's street. I think it'd be worth an episode to just have the characters get trapped in the ever-changing labyrinth that is Peach Creek. XD |
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| Kirkland22 | May 5 2010, 11:51 PM Post #14 |
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Yes, I do notice that the lane is in different places in different episodes, indeed. And in Urban Ed, it becomes really wide to fit the Eds' city of Edtropolis. But in most episodes, it is a narrower lane. Also, in 'If it Smells Like an Ed', I wonder where exactly that mysterious and abandoned shed was. The Eds cross that log over the creek and then stumble upon that shed. Is it in the woods? But in the episode 'An Ed in the Bush' and other episodes that take place in the woods, we don't see this mysterious shed. This leads me to believe the shed is somewhere else. Got any ideas? |
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| AnimatEd | May 6 2010, 02:40 AM Post #15 |
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Well, there's a LOT of different woods in EEnE, it's hard to tell which one the characters are in at any given time. The one with the shed was probably in the woods behind the playground, which I guess stretched far back enough in that episode to be down by Park N Flush (which is also the only way the creek could go through those woods). That episode is also one of those instances where the playground is rendered nonexistant by a simpler two rows of orange fenceposts. So these woods be on the right side of the cul-de-sac. In 'An Ed is Born', it looked like they went into the woods behind Jimmy's house. An overhead shot shows the factory in the distance, so that seems to confirm that it'd be directly behind the cul-de-sac. There's also the point that they could just be in a different neck of the woods than the shed. |
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| TrapEds | May 7 2010, 04:20 AM Post #16 |
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Wait, what? I always thought that was the jawbreaker factory. :huh: If they can really just barely see it that's a pretty big factory, or they live in a really flat area... *chuckles nervously* I'm impressed-this is all far too much for me to grasp. I tried, really, but I can't remember that many details anyway and I just keep thinking: this stuff is drawn completely by hand, they can't or don't want to be consistent with everything. o.O But don't mind me..heh-heh... I still want to know how that mysterious factory behind the cul-de-sac could be the gag factory though, ya know besides the obvious "the creators made it that way". :lol |
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| RTCombo | May 7 2010, 10:29 AM Post #17 |
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Wow, this thread became so big that I should've created it for mapping out Peach Creek and Lemon Brooke as a whole than just the school (which hasn't been talked about since like the 3rd or 4th post :sweatdrop).
I thought that was moved to a new location. Since there's another pipe seen in Eds-Aggerate (though one end suddenly finds itself getting smaller though). Or is this another non-canon prop? |
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| AnimatEd | May 7 2010, 02:31 PM Post #18 |
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The jawbreaker factory doesn't look anything at all like what we've seen of the factory behind the cul-de-sac. It's brighter, happier, cleaner, doesn't have waste barrels outside or broken windows, and it's completely different shapes. The gag factory factors in all the major characteristics of the factory behind the cul-de-sac: part of it has a roof with three points jutting out, there's more than one building to it, it's got smokestacks and one really tall building. And if that's not enough, most of the times that we see this factory, it's a silhouette, shaped exactly like the silhouette of the factory behind the cul-de-sac.
That pipe was on the ground and in the construction site, not the junkyard. That was most likely a non canon pipe, too, though, unless it's the pipe the creek goes into and the creek was drained that day, somehow. XP |
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| RTCombo | May 8 2010, 03:40 PM Post #19 |
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Have you ever tried to pinpoint where the railway is? My guess is that it's on the right of the construcion site. Although I'm not sure where the mountain Rolf and Eddy jump off is (or if it's canon) but I do consider some parts of the railway (such as the siding Eddy and Rolf go into) part of Peach Creek. In the siding's case I do recall a small pond near it, plus you're statement earlier on how creeks and ponds appear all over the place. Posted Image
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| AnimatEd | May 8 2010, 05:28 PM Post #20 |
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I think that's all on top of one of the mountains from 'Cool Hand Ed' (like, they jumped off a higher peak and the railway was on a lower peak). You can see the cul-de-sac in the distance at an angle that supports this 'Cool Hand Ed' location and makes it impossible for it to be at the construction site. I kinda doubt that this is a legitimate railway for Peach Creek, though, because it uses a terribly outdated type of train and also seems like it may just be for Urban Ranger purposes (since both the outdated train and the thing they fell into next to the train had their insignia on it). I totally think it's canon, I just don't think that's the town's current train station (especially because it'd be difficult to get on the mountain just to take a train XD). Posted Image (if anyone's unfamiliar with the characters' official house colors, the houses shown here are [starting clockwise from the bottom left] anonymouse house between Edd and Rolf, Rolf, Jonny, Nazz, Jimmy, Ed, and anonymous house between Ed and Eddy). I'm guessing your construction site theory is just because of how fast Ed, Edd, Jimmy and Jonny were able to catch up with Rolf and Eddy's flight back to the construction site? I'd say the artists just wanted everyone present for the landing, whether it made sense or not. Edit: I try not to talk about what behind-the-scenes stuff I know about the movie, but I suppose it's not too revealing to say that they had tossed around the idea of having the Eds pass a more legitimate railway in the movie. I'm not sure where they were considering putting this, but I feel like it would've fit in well on that long stretch of road the Eds were walking on at night. Also, on a much less canon note, the 'Scam of the Century' game places a few train tracks through the field behind the cul-de-sac (as well as a road through the entirety of it for Edd to run on). |
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