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Fmr. Congressman charged Terror Conspiracy; Mark Deli Siljander
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nuzzlebunny	Jan 16 2008, 05:36 PM Post #1
Unregistered	http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hw36mXs...1aQAmgD8U75UU83 >A former congressman and delegate to the United Nations was indicted Wednesday as part of a terrorist fundraising ring that allegedly sent more than $130,000 to an al-Qaida and Taliban supporter who has threatened U.S. and international troops in Afghanistan.<
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legitlinda	Jan 17 2008, 05:06 PM Post #2
Ruler of the Mountain Posts: 2,746 Group: Member Member #29 Joined: September 6, 2006	nuzzlebunny,Jan 16 2008 03:36 PM http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hw36mXs...1aQAmgD8U75UU83 >A former congressman and delegate to the United Nations was indicted Wednesday as part of a terrorist fundraising ring that allegedly sent more than $130,000 to an al-Qaida and Taliban supporter who has threatened U.S. and international troops in Afghanistan.< That's why I don't trust Muslims.



Culture Warrior	Jan 18 2008, 07:51 AM Post #3
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nuzzlebunny	Jan 18 2008, 09:52 AM Post #4
Unregistered	http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2008Jan16/0,4...ndicted,00.html Here is the story on FOX News... <WASHINGTON � A former congressman and delegate to the United Nations was indicted Wednesday on charges of working for an alleged terrorist fundraising ring that sent more than $130,000 to an al-Qaida supporter who has threatened U.S. and international troops in Afghanistan.> <The 42-count indictment, unsealed in U.S. District Court in Kansas City, Mo., accuses the Islamic American Relief Agency of paying Siljander $50,000 for the lobbying _ money that turned out to be stolen from the U.S. Agency for International Development.>
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Culture Warrior	Jan 18 2008, 10:51 AM Post #5
an Angry American Posts: 4,794 Group: Member Member #30 Joined: September 6, 2006	A B C D E F F this one is for LegitLinda G H - Democrats, including Minnesota�s Keith Ellison, helped raise more than $620,000 on Saturday for an Islamic supremacist front group: First Muslim Congressman Addresses CAIR Banquet. I IMO - He was once worked for the government (about 20 years ago) and he went south.....he should be tried and convicted of his crime just as ANYONE, Republican, Democrat, Libertarian, male, female, black, white, red, yellow, or whatever! And hopefully justice will run its due process and he that is guilty will be tried, proven, and convicted and justice is served.



Culture Warrior	Jan 18 2008, 10:57 AM Post #6
an Angry American Posts: 4,794 Group: Member Member #30 Joined: September 6, 2006	What is your thoughts there, NB??????? You gotta contribute more to the discussion than just dropping in some LINKY's and quotes and not say a word about it.



Toothless Dawg	Jan 18 2008, 10:58 AM Post #7
Ruler of the Mountain Posts: 4,826 Group: Member Member #22 Joined: August 25, 2006	beheading works for me ...



legitlinda	Jan 18 2008, 12:20 PM Post #8
Ruler of the Mountain Posts: 2,746 Group: Member Member #29 Joined: September 6, 2006	Culture Warrior,Jan 18 2008 08:51 AM F this one is for LegitLinda Thanks for the link CW. When I first heard about the story I thought it was going to be about Keith Ellison, but surprise, surprise, another Muslim betrays us! I knew about him calling the police on Tom Tancredo about his cigar smoking too, and I was proud that Tancredo told him what he could do with his sensitve smoke smelling nose! :lol: It's not that Ellison and Siljander are Democrat or Republican, the common denominator is that they are both Muslims with ties to terrorist organizations. After reading some of the links you posted I don't know how Ellison keeps his job. Hopefully he'll be brought down before he can do anything to bring us down! Good job on your posts....



Culture Warrior	Jan 18 2008, 06:26 PM Post #9
an Angry American Posts: 4,794 Group: Member Member #30 Joined: September 6, 2006	legitlinda,Jan 18 2008 11:20 AM Culture Warrior,Jan 18 2008 08:51 AM F this one is for LegitLinda Thanks for the link CW. When I first heard about the story I thought it was going to be about Keith Ellison, but surprise, surprise, another Muslim betrays us! I knew about him calling the police on Tom Tancredo about his cigar smoking too, and I was proud that Tancredo told him what he could do with his sensitve smoke smelling nose! :lol: It's not that Ellison and Siljander are Democrat or Republican, the common denominator is that they are both Muslims with ties to terrorist organizations. After reading some of the links you posted I don't know how Ellison keeps his job. Hopefully he'll be brought down before he can do anything to bring us down! Good job on your posts.... LL, not entirely sure that Siljander is 100% Islamofacist, but there is a good chance he is leaning that way: BUT, I do think you will find THIS an interesting read..... and in the comments, THIS interesting article: Quote: "We were the first white American Christians to speak on a Friday afternoon at the Khartoum mosque. That happened, not because we're so good looking, but because we built bridges of respect," said Siljander in November 2007. That comes from a very illuminating article in which he describes his evolution from a born-again Christian who aggressively proselytized among Muslims to a Christian apologist for Islam who sees no contradictions between what the Bible and the Qur'an say about Jesus.



legitlinda	Jan 18 2008, 08:24 PM Post #10
Ruler of the Mountain Posts: 2,746 Group: Member Member #29 Joined: September 6, 2006	That was very interesting. His name sounds like a Muslim name to me, but Debbie Schluessel said he was very much a Christian when she worked for him. Could it be he was the kind of believer that Jesus describes in the Bible as one who accepts the word eagerly but in hard times gives it all up for material wealth? Mat 13:22 As for what was sown among thorns, this is he who hears the word, but the cares of the world and the delight in riches choke the word, and it proves unfruitful. Or could it be that he was a Muslim from the beginning and just playing the part of a Christian. Either way it looks like he was a traitor. It will be very interesting to see how this turns out.



Toothless Dawg	Jan 18 2008, 08:42 PM Post #11
Ruler of the Mountain Posts: 4,826 Group: Member Member #22 Joined: August 25, 2006	LL, I also wondered if he was muslim or what??? I couldn't feel any direction according to his name ... other than being weird. IN this case I guess it doesn't matter, he's a traitor and should be executed without further delay. I agree with you ... I trust NONE of them.



nuzzlebunny	Jan 18 2008, 08:52 PM Post #12
Unregistered	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_D._Siljander <Debbie Schlussel, who interned in Siljander's office, stated that Siljander was known then as "the most pro-Israel Congressman on Capitol Hill".> <He described himself as "trained as an evangelical Christian; I was a poster boy for Jerry Falwell."> No where have I seen reference that he was Muslim On edit*** I can't really say for sure, but it appears that Siljander is a Finnish surname to me... http://www.linkedin.com/find/s/s66/s66_57.html
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gobblerblaster	Jan 18 2008, 10:57 PM Post #13
gobblerblaster Posts: 3,284 Group: Member Member #136 Joined: January 23, 2007	Toothless Dawg,Jan 18 2008 08:42 PM LL, I also wondered if he was muslim or what??? I couldn't feel any direction according to his name ... other than being weird. IN this case I guess it doesn't matter, he's a traitor and should be executed without further delay. I agree with you ... I trust NONE of them. That makes three of us, TD. It is just another indicater of the political clout and power that Muslims are gaining in Michigan and other trouble spots. Deerborn is the Mecca of America. We should really wake up, and soon.



Culture Warrior	Jan 19 2008, 07:06 AM Post #14
an Angry American Posts: 4,794 Group: Member Member #30 Joined: September 6, 2006	gobblerblaster,Jan 18 2008 09:57 PM Toothless Dawg,Jan 18 2008 08:42 PM LL, I also wondered if he was muslim or what??? I couldn't feel any direction according to his name ... other than being weird. IN this case I guess it doesn't matter, he's a traitor and should be executed without further delay. I agree with you ... I trust NONE of them. That makes three of us, TD. It is just another indicater of the political clout and power that Muslims are gaining in Michigan and other trouble spots. Deerborn is the Mecca of America. We should really wake up, and soon. Take a good look at the links I posted about Keith Ellison above, GB. When someone of this background and reputation is voted INTO CONGRESS, just how do you think he got there? We were in Minny a couple of weekends ago thru military. Upon arriving, they were ALL over the place, including the car rental. Seeing we had unit insignia on all of our clothing, they were just a little too inquisitive as to what we were doing in Minny. Kinda wished we could have given them an answer like going to a "Pork Growers Conference" or something like that, but common courtesy took over. Remember, this is the location with the "flying inmams" and the "foot bath sink" controversies among a pile of others.



Toothless Dawg	Jan 19 2008, 07:15 AM Post #15
Ruler of the Mountain Posts: 4,826 Group: Member Member #22 Joined: August 25, 2006	CW, I understand your feeling but when dealing with muslims/islamists there is no such thing as 'common courtesy' ... IMHO. You should have told them that you were part of the 'Infidel Militia' and you're on a fact-finding mission.



Culture Warrior	Jan 19 2008, 07:33 AM Post #16
an Angry American Posts: 4,794 Group: Member Member #30 Joined: September 6, 2006	Toothless Dawg,Jan 19 2008 06:15 AM CW, I understand your feeling but when dealing with muslims/islamists there is no such thing as 'common courtesy' ... IMHO. You should have told them that you were part of the 'Infidel Militia' and you're on a fact-finding mission. Yep, that kinda crossed the mind, too....but unfortunately that don't work too good when in front of a commander and your daughterand your orders don't allow you a car rental.....you're likely to be WALKING the streets of Minny rather than along for the ride. Knowing the commander, he may have been thinking on the same lines......but just came up with the courteous and slightly honest - "MEETINGS"



Culture Warrior	Jan 19 2008, 07:47 AM Post #17
an Angry American Posts: 4,794 Group: Member Member #30 Joined: September 6, 2006	BTW TD, GOOD MORNING!!! and here is some more reading on Siljander: Seeking Common Ground and THIS is the same kind of thinking that our LIBERALS try to use and a video



nuzzlebunny	Jan 19 2008, 01:05 PM Post #18
Unregistered	Culture Warrior,Jan 19 2008 07:47 AM BTW TD, GOOD MORNING!!! and here is some more reading on Siljander: Seeking Common Ground and THIS is the same kind of thinking that our LIBERALS try to use and a video Here is an interesting tidbit about Grover Norquist and his ties to radical Islam... Jihad Watch: Grover Norquist and radical Islam Some background on Grover Norquist: http://www.atr.org/home/about/ggnbio.html * Serves on the board of directors of the National Rifle Association of America. * Serves on the board of directors of the American Conservative Union. * Serves as a Contributing Editor to the American Spectator Magazine. * Serves as president of the American Society of Competitiveness. * Wrote the book Rock the House - an analysis of the 1994 elections, which has been translated and published in Japanese. In the past, Mr. Norquist served as: * A commissioner on the Advisory Commission on Electronic Commerce. * A commissioner on the National Commission on Restructuring the Internal Revenue Service. * Economist and chief speech-writer, U.S. Chamber of Commerce (1983-1984). * Campaign staff on the 1988, 1992, 1996 Republican Platform Committees. * Executive director of the National Taxpayers� Union. * Executive director of the College Republicans. <In the words of former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich, Grover Norquist is �the person who I regard as the most innovative, creative, courageous and entrepreneurial leader of the anti-tax efforts and of conservative grassroots activism in America . . . He has truly made a difference and truly changed American history.�> Are these the "liberals" you are talking about?
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legitlinda	Jan 19 2008, 01:37 PM Post #19
Ruler of the Mountain Posts: 2,746 Group: Member Member #29 Joined: September 6, 2006	Culture Warrior,Jan 19 2008 05:47 AM BTW TD, GOOD MORNING!!! and here is some more reading on Siljander: Seeking Common Ground and THIS is the same kind of thinking that our LIBERALS try to use and a video That's the problem with people who think we should just try to find the similarities between us and people of different beliefs. Concentrating on the similarities while ignoring the "differences" is a dangerous game. It's the differences that makes the "difference". In Siljanders case it sounds like he thought he had some kind of "epiphany" partly because he says the Quran doesn't say anything negative about Jesus. I admit I haven't read the Quran but I know Muslims say that Jesus was a good man and a prophet, but they deny he is the Son of God, and God the Son. They also believe that Muhammad is a greater prophet than Jesus. That's a big difference right there, not to mention how the Quran teaches it's okay to lie to the infidel and even to kill him. That's a huge difference we shouldn't overlook. :wacko: Siljander wrote a book titled "A Deadly Misunderstanding" which is apropos seeing that he is the one with the deadly misunderstanding.



Culture Warrior	Jan 19 2008, 01:38 PM Post #20
an Angry American Posts: 4,794 Group: Member Member #30 Joined: September 6, 2006	nuzzlebunny,Jan 19 2008 12:05 PM Are these the "liberals" you are talking about? NB, what is your exactly your stance on how to handle the Islamofacists? You like to just drop in a drop a turd without ANY discussion on just exactly what YOU are trying to get at. You're too chick__it to just come out and SAY what is on your mind for fear of getting banned, AGAIN... C'mon, speak your mind here, NB....just what is lurking in that mind of yours???



nuzzlebunny	Jan 19 2008, 01:49 PM Post #21
Unregistered	Culture Warrior,Jan 19 2008 01:38 PM nuzzlebunny,Jan 19 2008 12:05 PM Are these the "liberals" you are talking about? NB, what is your exactly your stance on how to handle the Islamofacists? You like to just drop in a drop a turd without ANY discussion on just exactly what YOU are trying to get at. You're too chick__it to just come out and SAY what is on your mind for fear of getting banned, AGAIN... C'mon, speak your mind here, NB....just what is lurking in that mind of yours??? Well, if I were in charge I wouldn't appoint an Islamist as director of policy for intelligence at the Department of Homeland Security, but that is just me.....from 2004.... http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,126719,00.html ----Homeland Security Appointee Under Investigation WASHINGTON � Officials at the Department of Homeland Security are investigating the reinstatement of a top political appointee to the agency who was briefly suspended for failing to disclose ties to a controversial Islamic organization, FOXNews.com has learned. Faisal Gill, director of policy for intelligence at DHS, was forced to take a few days off in March after sources close to the FBI raised flags about Gill's former position as spokesman for the American Muslim Council.----- ----Gill, 32, worked at both the American Muslim Council and the Islamic Free Market Institute, which was co-founded by prominent Republican activist and lobbyist Grover Norquist and Saffuri, who also worked as AMC's government affairs director.---- Another story from FOX on this case... http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,128743,00.html From Michelle Malkin about this guy... http://michellemalkin.com/2004/06/22/who-is-faisal-gill/ About him on Jihad Watch... http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/002573.php His bio on Wikepedia... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faisal_Gill That position (director of policy for intelligence ) is an appointment by the President.
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Culture Warrior	Jan 19 2008, 02:00 PM Post #22
an Angry American Posts: 4,794 Group: Member Member #30 Joined: September 6, 2006	nuzzlebunny,Jan 19 2008 12:05 PM Are these the "liberals" you are talking about? No NB, THESE would be the liberals I'm talking about: For starters, go back up to all the links I posted about Kheeth Ehlinmam And how about ANY of THESE liberals? Jimmah Khartar 1 Jimmah Khartar 2 Jhimma Khartar 3 HERE's a whole website dedicated to them The list can go on...and on....and on.....



Culture Warrior	Jan 19 2008, 02:11 PM Post #23
an Angry American Posts: 4,794 Group: Member Member #30 Joined: September 6, 2006	nuzzlebunny,Jan 19 2008 12:49 PM Well, if I were in charge I wouldn't appoint an Islamist as director of policy for intelligence at the Department of Homeland Security, but that is just me.....from 2004.... How about your beloved Democratic Underground Leader? Howard Dean and the Radical Inmam Howard Dean Parties - this is from Huffpo by Ali Eteraz....hmmmm a Far Left liberal website that caters to someone by the name of Ali... Young Democrats defending Radical Inmam



nuzzlebunny	Jan 19 2008, 02:18 PM Post #24
Unregistered	Culture Warrior,Jan 19 2008 02:11 PM nuzzlebunny,Jan 19 2008 12:49 PM Well, if I were in charge I wouldn't appoint an Islamist as director of policy for intelligence at the Department of Homeland Security, but that is just me.....from 2004.... How about your beloved Democratic Underground Leader? Howard Dean and the Radical Inmam Howard Dean Parties - this is from Huffpo by Ali Eteraz....hmmmm a Far Left liberal website that caters to someone by the name of Ali... Young Democrats defending Radical Inmam Last time I checked, Howard Dean wasn't President of the United States, so he is no position to give high level positions in DHS to militant Islamists. (Thank goodness)
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Culture Warrior	Jan 19 2008, 02:25 PM Post #25
an Angry American Posts: 4,794 Group: Member Member #30 Joined: September 6, 2006	nuzzlebunny,Jan 19 2008 12:49 PM Well, if I were in charge I wouldn't appoint an Islamist as director of policy for intelligence at the Department of Homeland Security, but that is just me.....from 2004.... How about voting one in for congress? HERE's a book you should maybe take a little time to read: and here's a little review on it Written by a liberal.....and the book written by a once liberal. Quote: Unholy Alliance - Radical Islam and the American Left September 7, 2005 The one thing I enjoy when there is a long holiday weekend is the time I get to spend reading books. Visiting the Blanchard's in Skaneateles, New York further forces you to read books since their lake-side home doesn't have a television. I bought a book several months ago titled Unholy Alliance - Radical Islam and the American Left, that intrigued me when I saw it in the bookstore, but I never seemed to find time to read it. I don't claim to know all the political answers or who is more right - the Left or the Right. I would venture to say that there is fault both on the Extreme Left and the Extreme Right. But what really intrigued me about this book was that the author, David Horowitz, is a lifelong civil rights activist and one of the founders of the New Left movement in the 1960s. So how is it that someone that had such deep-seated roots in liberal and Left-leaning causes would write a book condemning the Left and associating the Left as allies of Islamic terrorists? What caused David to turn from his Left allies and take a much more conservative approach when it came to the War on Terror? That's what intigued me when I read the book's jacket cover. Indeed this book is not written by an extreme right-winger novelist by any stretch of the imagination, so I couldn't just lump this as some sort of extreme right-wing propoganda trash. I had to buy this book and I was not disappointed. So why would Leftists make common cause with extremists within a religion that are diametrically opposed to everything the Left stands for? (civil rights, homosexuality, democracy, women's rights, etc.) David Horowitz explains that it is quite logical given one of the extreme Left's principles: America is the biggest evil and anything or anyone opposed to America is good. The first part of the book is a history of 9/11 through the end of major combat operations in Iraq and the Left's actions during this time. David cites a few examples of the extreme Left, but one that stuck in my mind was Anthropology Professor Nicholas De Genova of Columbia University when he said that he hoped for "a million Mogadishus." (in Iraq) Specifically he said, "Peace is subversive, because peace anticipates a very different world than the one in which we live--a world where the U.S. would have no place." De Genova continued: "The only true heroes are those who find ways that help defeat the U.S. military. I personally would like to see a million Mogadishus. U.S. patriotism is inseparable from imperial warfare and white supremacy." The second part of the book is a history of the American and international Left and the Left's love for communism and their evolution into what Horowitz calls Neo-Communists or Neocoms. He explains that the original American communists believed in the Soviet Union with the same religous fervor that many people believe in God. Americans who spied for the Soviet Union didn't see themselves as traitors to America, but rather loyalists to a commom cause for a utopian society for humanity. When the Soviet Union fell, they still carried their flawed belief system in a socialist America and instead focused their attention on attacking the American system at every turn. Part three explains why the Left has made unspoken alliances with Islam, Even though Islam doesn't share the Left's belief system, Horowitz explains that they are but a small enemy as compared to the American capitalist system and they they will do anything to bring about a revolution that brings down the American system. So why is the Left allying itself with radical Islam? Horowitz says that the Neocoms still believe in Marx's dictum that "religion is the opiate of the masses." According to the book, once private property is abolished (the root of the "class" system), the need for religion will vanish, and Islamic radicals will stop being Islamic and radical. The only thing standing in the way of the revolution is the United States of America. Unholy Alliance is absolutely chilling in its exploration of the depths to which the extreme Left will sink in its attacks on America. It is truly sad that the once great Democratic Party, of which I used to consider myself part of, has been hijacked by the extreme Left. For the record, I voted for Clinton twice, Gore over George W. Bush, and lastly George W. Bush over Kerry. So that's 3 Democratic votes to just one Republican vote. In summary, David Horowitz has done a billiant job of analyzing the history of the Left and how they have evolved from supporting communism to using the power of the media to spread their propoganda. What happened to the progressive moderate Democrats, like John F. Kennedy, Robert Kennedy, and others? Clinton was more moderate than the current crop of Democratic leadership, i.e. Howard Dean, Senator John Kerry, Senator Ted Kennedy, Sen. Barbara Boxer, and Sen. Charles Schummer and a lot of the reason is that extreme Left such as MoveOn.org and others have raised millions of dollars to help fund far left-leaning candidates such as Howard Dean. I don't believe President Bush has done everything perfectly but if you were to listen to Democratic leadership President Bush has done everything wrong. That is just lunacy and pure propoganda designed for political gain. Unwarranted attacks on the office of the Presidency no matter which party is in power designed for mere political gain stinks to high heaven and I hope this plan backfires come election time. The extreme Left is pushing me further and further to the right of center. Please Democrats, I implore you... save me from becoming an extreme right-winger before it's too late! AND THAT IS IT IN A NUTSHELL..... NB, for the one or two conservatives that have gone south for Islamofacism, I can give you scores of liberals that ARE supporters of Islamofacists driven by their "I HATE BUSH" mentality. In your troll technique of spinning the question around to favor yourself and your liberals, you still have not answered the question: "NB, what is your exactly your stance on how to handle the Islamofacists?"



nuzzlebunny	Jan 19 2008, 02:29 PM Post #26
Unregistered	Culture Warrior,Jan 19 2008 02:25 PM How about voting one in for congress? I don't vote in Minnesota.
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Culture Warrior	Jan 19 2008, 02:33 PM Post #27
an Angry American Posts: 4,794 Group: Member Member #30 Joined: September 6, 2006	nuzzlebunny,Jan 19 2008 01:18 PM Last time I checked, Howard Dean wasn't President of the United States, so he is no position to give high level positions in DHS to militant Islamists. (Thank goodness) OK "little Miss Perfect", maybe YOU should run for President next time....... "If I were in charge..........." Yep, you would make it a perfect world in your mind and make NO mistakes. It's pretty easy to sit in your computer chair and say "If I were in charge" rather than to ACTUALLY TAKE CHARGE..... Granted every mistake, every natural disaster, every death, every fart into the wind is ALL going to be BUSH's fault in the liberal's mind - Just exactly when will they own up to their OWN mistakes.



Culture Warrior	Jan 19 2008, 02:34 PM Post #28
an Angry American Posts: 4,794 Group: Member Member #30 Joined: September 6, 2006	nuzzlebunny,Jan 19 2008 01:29 PM Culture Warrior,Jan 19 2008 02:25 PM How about voting one in for congress? I don't vote in Minnesota. OKAY, then tell us WHERE and WHO you would vote for? Dear, tell us



Culture Warrior	Jan 19 2008, 02:36 PM Post #29
an Angry American Posts: 4,794 Group: Member Member #30 Joined: September 6, 2006	nuzzlebunny,Jan 19 2008 01:29 PM Culture Warrior,Jan 19 2008 02:25 PM How about voting one in for congress? I don't vote in Minnesota. Go get the book and read it......maybe that would shed a little more light on just exactly HOW MUCH the liberals support Islamofacism.....



nuzzlebunny	Jan 19 2008, 02:44 PM Post #30
Unregistered	Culture Warrior,Jan 19 2008 02:36 PM nuzzlebunny,Jan 19 2008 01:29 PM Culture Warrior,Jan 19 2008 02:25 PM How about voting one in for congress? I don't vote in Minnesota. Go get the book and read it......maybe that would shed a little more light on just exactly HOW MUCH the liberals support Islamofacism..... You are the one that made this partisan. I made no mention of Siljander's political affiliation in my initial post. Best I recall, you called that post cow manure, and YOU were the first one to go about disparaging the other party, since apparently one of your boys is going down for aiding the enemy. Instead of criticizing Siljander, you go on about how "Democrats are so much worse!". Well, so far the only one to be indicted was from the right side of the aisle. If you have any info the FBI doesn't have about Ellison or Jimmy Carter, I suggest you pass it on.
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Culture Warrior	Jan 19 2008, 02:59 PM Post #31
an Angry American Posts: 4,794 Group: Member Member #30 Joined: September 6, 2006	nuzzlebunny,Jan 19 2008 01:44 PM Culture Warrior,Jan 19 2008 02:36 PM nuzzlebunny,Jan 19 2008 01:29 PM Culture Warrior,Jan 19 2008 02:25 PM How about voting one in for congress? I don't vote in Minnesota. Go get the book and read it......maybe that would shed a little more light on just exactly HOW MUCH the liberals support Islamofacism..... You are the one that made this partisan. I made no mention of Siljander's political affiliation in my initial post. Best I recall, you called that post cow manure, and YOU were the first one to go about disparaging the other party, since apparently one of your boys is going down for aiding the enemy. Instead of criticizing Siljander, you go on about how "Democrats are so much worse!". Well, so far the only one to be indicted was from the right side of the aisle. If you have any info the FBI doesn't have about Ellison or Jimmy Carter, I suggest you pass it on. eeewww....you hurt my wittle feelings.... You still have not answered my question: "NB, what is your exactly your stance on how to handle the Islamofacists?" and while you are at it, try answering: "OKAY, then tell us WHERE and WHO you would vote for?" BTW, I do believe your posts have been "leaning" to the liberal side so making this a partisian issue is of your own accord..... If you can answer this question, then maybe I will lay off of your political preferences, and you have to answer it from your heart - not make up some "because it was news" type of answer: Why did you start this thread? Was it to start a controversy - because that's what you're gonna get if you continue to hunt down every MISTAKE that Bushitlerchimpcheneyrovehalliburtoncrooksandliars make.



nuzzlebunny	Jan 19 2008, 03:08 PM Post #32
Unregistered	Culture Warrior,Jan 19 2008 02:59 PM You still have not answered my question: "NB, what is your exactly your stance on how to handle the Islamofacists?" and while you are at it, try answering: "OKAY, then tell us WHERE and WHO you would vote for?" BTW, I do believe your posts have been "leaning" to the liberal side so making this a partisian issue is of your own accord..... If you can answer this question, then maybe I will lay off of your political preferences, and you have to answer it from your heart - not make up some "because it was news" type of answer: Why did you start this thread? Was it to start a controversy - because that's what you're gonna get if you continue to hunt down every MISTAKE that Bushitlerchimpcheneyrovehalliburtoncrooksandliars make. I shall be voting in Bellsburg, TN for Mike Huckabee. I would handle the Islamofacists by not giving the Saudis weapons they'll give Al Qaeda to use on us. I would wash this nations hands of all Arab royalty, and no one from Saudia Arabia, Jordan,Egypt, nor Pakistan would be allowed in the US PERIOD. and all folks from those places who are here currently that don't have citizenship or permanent residency will be sent on their merry way.
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Culture Warrior	Jan 19 2008, 03:23 PM Post #33
an Angry American Posts: 4,794 Group: Member Member #30 Joined: September 6, 2006	nuzzlebunny,Jan 19 2008 01:44 PM Well, so far the only one to be indicted was from the right side of the aisle. Quote: Grand jury indicts Rep. Jefferson in bribery investigation By LARA JAKES JORDAN Associated Press Writer WASHINGTON (AP) � Rep. William Jefferson, D-La., was indicted Monday on federal charges of racketeering, soliciting bribes and money-laundering in a long-running bribery investigation into business deals he tried to broker in Africa. The indictment handed up in federal court in Alexandria., Va., Monday is 94 pages long and lists 16 alleged violations of federal law that could keep Jefferson in prison for up to 235 years, according to a Justice Department official who has seen the document. Among the charges listed in the indictment, said the official, are racketeering, soliciting bribes, wire fraud, money-laundering, obstruction of justice, conspiracy and violations of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss the case. Jefferson is accused of soliciting bribes for himself and his family, and also for bribing a Nigerian official. Almost two years ago, in August 2005, investigators raided Jefferson�s home in Louisiana and found $90,000 in cash stuffed into a box in his freezer. Jefferson, 63, whose Louisiana district includes New Orleans, has said little about the case publicly but has maintained his innocence. He was re-elected last year despite the looming investigation. Jefferson, in Louisiana on Monday, could not immediately be reached for comment. Two of Jefferson�s associates have already struck plea bargains with prosecutors and have been sentenced. Brett Pfeffer, a former congressional aide, admitted soliciting bribes on Jefferson�s behalf and was sentenced to eight years in prison. Another Jefferson associate, Louisville, Ky., telecommunications executive Vernon Jackson, pleaded guilty to paying between $400,000 and $1 million in bribes to Jefferson in exchange for his assistance securing business deals in Nigeria and other African nations. Jackson was sentenced to more than seven years in prison. Both Pfeffer and Jackson agreed to cooperate in the case against Jefferson in exchanges for their pleas. The impact of the case has stretched across continents and even roiled presidential politics in Nigeria. According to court records, Jefferson told associates that he needed cash to pay bribes to the country�s vice president, Atiku Abubakar. Abubakar denied the allegations, which figured prominently in that country�s presidential elections in April. Abubakar ran for the presidency and finished third. Court records indicate that Jefferson was videotape taking a $100,000 cash bribe from an FBI informant. Most of that money later turned up in a freezer in Jefferson�s home. In May 2006, the FBI raided Jefferson�s congressional office, the first such raid on a sitting congressman�s Capitol office. That move sparked a constitutional debate over whether the executive branch stepped over its boundary. The legality of the raid is still being argued on appeal. House leaders objected to the search saying it was an unconstitutional intrusion on the lawmaking process. The FBI said the raid was necessary because Jefferson and his legal team had failed to respond to requests for documents. Some but not all the documents seized in the raid have been turned over Justice Department prosecutors.



nuzzlebunny	Jan 19 2008, 03:28 PM Post #34
Unregistered	Grand jury indicts Rep. Jefferson in bribery investigation That wasn't a Terror conspiracy charge, but there you go. My bad. Dems take bribes to get telecoms work in Africa, and Repubs play footsie with Islamofacists.... indictments all around.
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Culture Warrior	Jan 19 2008, 03:34 PM Post #35
an Angry American Posts: 4,794 Group: Member Member #30 Joined: September 6, 2006	nuzzlebunny,Jan 19 2008 02:08 PM Culture Warrior,Jan 19 2008 02:59 PM You still have not answered my question: "NB, what is your exactly your stance on how to handle the Islamofacists?" and while you are at it, try answering: "OKAY, then tell us WHERE and WHO you would vote for?" BTW, I do believe your posts have been "leaning" to the liberal side so making this a partisian issue is of your own accord..... If you can answer this question, then maybe I will lay off of your political preferences, and you have to answer it from your heart - not make up some "because it was news" type of answer: Why did you start this thread? Was it to start a controversy - because that's what you're gonna get if you continue to hunt down every MISTAKE that Bushitlerchimpcheneyrovehalliburtoncrooksandliars make. I shall be voting in Bellsburg, TN for Mike Huckabee. I would handle the Islamofacists by not giving the Saudis weapons they'll give Al Qaeda to use on us. I would wash this nations hands of all Arab royalty, and no one from Saudia Arabia, Jordan,Egypt, nor Pakistan would be allowed in the US PERIOD. and all folks from those places who are here currently that don't have citizenship or permanent residency will be sent on their merry way. NB, I caught this while were trying to edit your post. Quote: Grand jury indicts Rep. Jefferson in bribery investigation That wasn't a Terror conspiracy charge, but there you go. My bad. Dems take bribes to get telecoms work in Africa, and Repubs play footsie with Islamofacists.... indictments all around. Why exactly do you intentionally keep supporting the liberals? IF you are in fact voting on a Republican ticket? This whole thing seems a little fishy to me......and it smells of albatrossbacteria........



nuzzlebunny	Jan 19 2008, 03:45 PM Post #36
Unregistered	If you don't like me, ignore me. The fact remains the only person who was formerly an elected official that has been charged in a Islamic TERROR conspiracy is a Republican. Don't like that harped on? Well, you brought partisanship into it. Since the War on Terror is supposedly something you cared about, I would figure you would want to know when someone of that scale is formally charged. I'll be sure to get your permission before I post something next time, in case it may not to your liking... NOT.
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Culture Warrior	Jan 19 2008, 04:36 PM Post #37
an Angry American Posts: 4,794 Group: Member Member #30 Joined: September 6, 2006	nuzzlebunny,Jan 19 2008 02:08 PM I shall be voting in Bellsburg, TN for Mike Huckabee. I would handle the Islamofacists by not giving the Saudis weapons they'll give Al Qaeda to use on us. I would wash this nations hands of all Arab royalty, and no one from Saudia Arabia, Jordan,Egypt, nor Pakistan would be allowed in the US PERIOD. and all folks from those places who are here currently that don't have citizenship or permanent residency will be sent on their merry way. NB, do you know what a Moby is?



nuzzlebunny	Jan 19 2008, 04:44 PM Post #38
Unregistered	Culture Warrior,Jan 19 2008 04:36 PM NB, do you know what a Moby is? Dude, you are nasty! http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=moby&page=2 Moby: ----To have sex with a particularly large and/or undesireable female. Derived from Moby Dick, the great white whale. Jim was so drunk last night he pulled a moby.-----
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Culture Warrior	Jan 19 2008, 04:49 PM Post #39
an Angry American Posts: 4,794 Group: Member Member #30 Joined: September 6, 2006	nuzzlebunny,Jan 19 2008 03:44 PM Culture Warrior,Jan 19 2008 04:36 PM NB, do you know what a Moby is? Dude, you are nasty! http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=moby&page=2 Moby: ----To have sex with a particularly large and/or undesireable female. Derived from Moby Dick, the great white whale. Jim was so drunk last night he pulled a moby.----- NB, you just proved to me once again, that you are INGAC70 and her infatuation with sex. I suggest you look a little harder as to what a Moby is....try looking into this tactic in the internet world.....and I see you are up to the same shenanigans over on CDB, too....



nuzzlebunny	Jan 19 2008, 04:51 PM Post #40
Unregistered	Culture Warrior,Jan 19 2008 04:49 PM nuzzlebunny,Jan 19 2008 03:44 PM Culture Warrior,Jan 19 2008 04:36 PM NB, do you know what a Moby is? Dude, you are nasty! http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=moby&page=2 Moby: ----To have sex with a particularly large and/or undesireable female. Derived from Moby Dick, the great white whale. Jim was so drunk last night he pulled a moby.----- NB, you just proved to me once again, that you are INGAC70 and her infatuation with sex. I suggest you look a little harder as to what a Moby is....try looking into this tactic in the internet world.....and I see you are up to the same shenanigans over on CDB, too.... ??????????????????????????
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