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Court rules: Illegal aliens not really 'illegal'; from a bleeding heart liberal judge
Topic Started: Aug 22 2007, 11:07 AM (280 Views)
Almtnman
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Posted ImageBleeding heart liberal judge says illegal aliens are not illegal

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An appeals court has concluded that just being an illegal alien in the United States doesn't necessarily violate the law, so a judge cannot deny probation and require a jail sentence for a convicted drug dealer who is an illegal alien.

The opinion from the Kansas Court of Appeals came in the Barton County case involving convicted drug dealer Nicholas L. Martinez.

The ruling found that while the laws of the United States make it illegal to enter the United States without authorization, being in the United States after entering illegally is "not necessarily a crime."


Looks like we're just going to have to dispense our own form of justice as our government and our courts have become obsolete and ineffective.
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It's really disgusting what these judges are doing! They're saying they can only be considered 'illegal' once they've been deported and re-entered. What sense does that make when they had no right to enter in the first place?

That's the same as saying that if someone breaks into your house it's not a crime, and only becomes one when you have thrown him out and he comes back in!

It's insane! Let them try that logic at the White House!
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legitlinda,Aug 22 2007
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It's really disgusting what these judges are doing!  They're saying they can only be considered 'illegal' once they've been deported and re-entered.  What sense does that make when they had no right to enter in the first place?

That's the same as saying that  if someone breaks into your house it's not a crime, and only becomes one when you have thrown him out and he comes back in!

It's insane!  Let them try that logic at the White House!

legitlinda,
Maybe these judges could put there views in on the Darwin topic. Bet that would be interesting.Huh :garfield:
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There are to many news stories about illegal aliens, and now I'm confused (but that's normal!). A judge in Florida just let an illegal off on $150 bail - he's had at least 19 prior arrests.
If an illegal alien is not really 'illegal', then maybe they are kind of 'invisible'. Law enforcement isn't suppose to report them to ICE in some States. Kind of makes you wonder how far those rules will 'bend' for us who are paying taxes in America.
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So I guess that robbing a bank is illegal, but once you clear the door, all is good.
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As long as you are illegal and 'invisible', I think you're pretty much 'good to go'.
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According to the article, this illegal was up on charges of dealing cocaine and child endangerment. He had his little boy deliver the drugs to the buyer (cops).
The sentence was rather tame to start with, I thought. The problem (appeal) started when the judge wouldn't convert the ONE year sentence to probation, saying since the man was here illegally, he was already in violation of his probation. The appeals court judge said "no", he's not illegal now.

I'm rather ashamed of our legal system here in Kansas. The man probably wouldn't have even been arrested in my county.
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I heard that story on the news last night. I am, mad, embarrassed, ashamed and apologize for our Kansas Govt.
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Sibs, just because you live in Kansas, there's no need to apologize. There's a lot of really good folks in Kansas. The problem seems to be with one bleeding heart liberal judge and there's plenty of those just about everywhere.

We have one here in Alabama that none of the Federal prosecutors wants any of their cases up before him. He makes some very stupid decisions and has had most of his decisions reversed or sent back to him to get fixed by the 11th Circuit a bunch of times. If he doesn't fix the problem, then the case is sent to another judge. This judge that I mention is just making a living basically doing nothing.
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Almtnman,Aug 25 2007
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Sibs, just because you live in Kansas, there's no need to apologize. There's a lot of really good folks in Kansas. The problem seems to be with one bleeding heart liberal judge and there's plenty of those just about everywhere.

We have one here in Alabama that none of the Federal prosecutors wants any of their cases up before him. He makes some very stupid decisions and has had most of his decisions reversed or sent back to him to get fixed by the 11th Circuit a bunch of times. If he doesn't fix the problem, then the case is sent to another judge. This judge that I mention is just making a living basically doing nothing.

" This judge that I mention is just making a living basically doing nothing."Almtman,I feel this is true with most judges.In the majority of cases there has been plea bargaining done so there is not much for him to do but go through the motions,most everything has already been agreed on he just ok's it. If he has to make a judgment he recesses and has court clerks to look up cases histories and other rulings so really his work is done for him.I think some times they try to color outside the lines to see if they can set a precedent that all will have to follow .But I think the hardest work a judge ever does is the suck up to get the job.I honestly think we (like when we were kids)need a do over clause in this counter things have gone way to far left--right nothing seams center and clear any more.
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Almtnman,

Thanks for bringing this to our attention, it is the first time I heard of it.

For a judges opinion then ruling to be that an "illegal" in this country is not necessarily a crime after their here is ridiculous.

Yet another air head that refuses the facts and inserts their own agendas and biases.

Duke



Does anyone know what the good folks of Kansas can or are doing about this, and is there anything those of us not from Kansas can do?
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Duke,Aug 29 2007
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Does anyone know what the good folks of Kansas can or are doing about this, and is there anything those of us not from Kansas can do?

Pray

I have emailed the govenor, and the attourney general, but of course, no response. Don't know who else to whine to.
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