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| How the Liberals Support Our Troops; ENOUGH IS ENOUGH | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Apr 18 2007, 10:06 PM (441 Views) | |
| Culture Warrior | Apr 18 2007, 10:06 PM Post #1 |
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I know I already started a thread about how our liberals support our troops, but this deserves one of its own. Several weeks ago, Capitol Hill elites that this country has elected was put to the test to come up with a bill to fund the War on Terror in Iraq and Afghanistan. They promptly set about claiming that the country voted them in so that they could MAKE the troops come home. Whether the job was done or not, they claim that is WHY the country elected them into office. The bill(s) they created took the yellow bellied direction of alloting the money that was needed, but putting the stipulation that our soldiers MUST return home. They would not stick their neck out and say "NO we are not going to fund our troops". They knew that would draw too much criticism. And lead to their losing seats in the years to come. Instead they crammed a bunch of pork on the bill, and put a timeline that the jihadists are just smiling to hear. It is EXACTLY the card that they intend on seeing the US playing. The same exact card their beloved Clinton played in Somalia. It is called the "Chicken Spit" card. Yellow in color. Of no face value. Now, the president askes them to sit down and discuss this issue as he has let them know that HE WILL VETO their bill. First they balk....and say they will not even meet with the president. Again, in their card game, they finally wimp out and see that this will draw too much criticism making them look like that they don't want to cooperate at all. Well, they finally did decide to talk, and they will not budge.. While our dimwits sit and play our soldiers the pawns................. While our soldiers wait for the funds they need....and their families need......
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| Ali | Apr 18 2007, 11:28 PM Post #2 |
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It's an old, rusty barbed wire fence they're sitting on now. I'm sure it looked good to begin with. |
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| bsb006 | Apr 19 2007, 02:35 AM Post #3 |
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As far as I could see, most people are against what they are doing. Dims are doing themselves in. results will be - they lose 2008. It is just too bad the soldiers - who already give up som much - are the ones suffering. They should be ashamed of themselves. |
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| Condor | Apr 19 2007, 07:55 PM Post #4 |
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I remember them promising time and again in their campaign speeches how they would not insist on a time line and would provide funding for the troops. They are as good as their word! Lying sacks of ____! |
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| Ali | Apr 19 2007, 07:55 PM Post #5 |
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I agree with you bsb, I think they have the mindset of idiots who have no concern about anything or anyone 'outside of the little box' they peer into day after day. God help us if a Dim wins the next election, because they won't care about anyone, and their only questions will be 'what's in it for me'? |
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| Culture Warrior | Apr 25 2007, 08:16 AM Post #6 |
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IF THIS DON'T MAKE MY BLOOD BOIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Democrats: We'll Get Our Way One Way or Another in Iraq
THIS SO CALLED SENATOR ACTUALLY IS LOOKING FOR A DEFEAT IN THIS WAR TO GAIN DEMOCRATIC SEATS. SPIT SPIT AND SPIT AGAIN Harry Reid's effect on our troops THIS IDIOT ACTUALLY WANTS TO SEE OUR BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN LOSE THEIR LIVES FOR HIS POLTICIAL PARTY!!!! I'M GONNA GO PUKE....................... ![]() FROM GARY: Marine Corporal From A Bunker In Ramadi: “I Got A Message For That Douche Harry Reid” (there is some harsh language on here - this guy is a grunt Marine, so it is to be expected - In fact, I'd use the same !@#$%^&_)*(&#!%$#@% language myself ) I'M WITH YA, SOLDIER - 100% BESIDE, BEHIND AND IN FRONT OF!!!!
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| Almtnman | Apr 25 2007, 10:32 AM Post #7 |
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I just can't for the like of me, figure out why the dims are so up tight about funding for the war. It's like too me, that they don't have a clue as to what's going on in the world other than gaining some senate seats. then they get in control with some extra seats and are put in charge of Congress and then I still see no action for THE PEOPLE. It's only all about them and them only. They kept bashing Bush about any and everything and blamed everyone else because the Republicans were in power, but yet when they get in control, it's nothing. They said the Republicans were controlling gas prices and if they were in control something would be done. Well now I see what that something was, higher prices than we had before. If anyone doesn't think gas prices is causing ripple effects, drive by one of your local high schools and notice the students parking lot and you'll see what I mean. Every school in my area, the parking lot was always filled to the limit with students cars. Drive by there now and anyone you drive by is only 1/3 full. Where are the dims on the gas prices? Where are the dims on ANY support for our troops? They are up there in DC jacking their jaws and doing nothing but drawing a paycheck. Everyone of them needs to be shipped out to the middle Atlantic and dropped off to swim to the closest land. I feel better now......thanks for letting me rant and get some pressure off! |
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| Almtnman | Apr 25 2007, 11:32 AM Post #8 |
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Messages from the troops at the scene...and how they feel about politicians who try to use the troops struggles for personal political gain .... http://patdollard.com/ |
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| Ali | Apr 25 2007, 09:47 PM Post #9 |
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Just had the video playing from your last post Almtnman ...Hillary talking about 'dirt' under the rug in the Oval Office ....and heard a familiar voice from the living room! (my husband) say "D----e Bag"! |
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| bsb006 | Apr 26 2007, 02:58 AM Post #10 |
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I refuse to talk about this, but go ahead - read on..... :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:(choosing to live in denial..... )
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| Toothless Dawg | Apr 26 2007, 07:55 AM Post #11 |
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I think I really LIKE your husband, Ali!!! |
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| Toothless Dawg | Apr 26 2007, 08:02 AM Post #12 |
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BSB, We figured it was coming. Our troops are doing the job ... our congress is failing AMERICA AND our TROOPS. At the Gathering of Eagles, one of the members made up this graphic. Some members have made it into bumper stickers and we've kind of 'adopted' the phrase as a rallying cry. I was having difficulty with the bumper sticker, so I made a magnet 8"x3.5" and have it mounted on the side of my Explorer. Its on the side so the Marines can see it as I pass through the gate at work. I might put another one on the back so people behind me can see it also.
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| bsb006 | Apr 26 2007, 12:39 PM Post #13 |
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Awesome bumper sticker, sp. These idiots are making me sick. |
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| Condor | Apr 27 2007, 12:22 AM Post #14 |
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Hilary should know what is under that rug and it isn't dirt. Dirt isn't white! |
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| Condor | Apr 27 2007, 12:24 AM Post #15 |
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The Democrats know that if the war is won, they are done. They are concerned for one thing and one thing only - themselves! The basic flaw in their thinking is that they have identified the wrong enemy. They attack Bush and cater to the real enemy - the Islamic nation! |
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| Ali | Apr 27 2007, 09:28 PM Post #16 |
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Almost went there Condor, but figured everybody knows the lies she tells herself. That history is now 'her story'! Sorry thing is, I don't know as this war will ever end ...no matter what the dims tell us of their 'plans'. |
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| Almtnman | Apr 28 2007, 06:48 AM Post #17 |
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I heard a commentator explain what's going on with the dims as to why they want the war stopped before the election. If it's stopped now, the Republicians will be blamed for losing the war. If the war continues a little longer to try to win and the dims get in power and then they pull out like they did with 'nam, then they will be blamed and will lose their power for a period of about 20 years. So the dims are doing everything they can to make sure the war is over before the election in case they win. But, if they fail to fund the troops now, they will also lose as Bush knows this and knows that they are going to have to provide funding or they will still lose elections. Right now what we're seeing is a cat and mouse game going on. The dims don't have enough votes to over ride any vetos, so they are going to have to provide funding one way or the other or they will be the big losers. |
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| Sibs | Apr 28 2007, 07:19 AM Post #18 |
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I think you may have hit the nail on the head. It's sickening that they will play politics with our military men and women. |
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| Culture Warrior | Apr 28 2007, 08:40 PM Post #19 |
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WELL THE CAT AND MOUSE GAME HAS GONE BEYOND PLAYING FOOTSIE.... IT IS DIRECTLY EFFECTING THE SAFETY OF OUR TROOPS!!!!! AND THIS HAS PUSHED MY PATIENCE TO THE LIMIT!!!! Deadlocked War Funding Bill May Halt Troop Carriers LINK Saturday, April 28, 2007 - Associated Press
THE DIMS JUST DON'T GET IT. IF WE FOLLOW THEIR POLICY OF "THROW IN THE TOWEL", THEY WILL GIVE OUR TROOPS THE MONEY TO COME HOME. BY THE TIME THESE GET BUILT - OUR DEM'S POLICY WILL HAVE THEM ON THE WAY BACK FROM IRAQ!!!! HOW IGNORANT CAN YOU GET??? Ali, can Pete here me hollerin from here???? |
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| Neese | Apr 30 2007, 08:34 AM Post #20 |
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The thing that bothers me most about this, is that they are only hurting our troops. But what can we expect from people who virtually destroyed the relationships with our allies by opening their big mouths, and ruining the reputation of the United States? As long as we have feet on foreign soil, these war protesters and the far left media need to zip it! |
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| STEVEN1 | Apr 30 2007, 07:10 PM Post #21 |
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Sen Reid and the rest of the dimwits need to stop the bs game of party politics and give us, I'm military myself, what we need to finish the job. I've already been over and now I'm home training those deploying to Iraq and Afghanistan. I see the faces of hundreds of troops every day and I can't help but feel pissed off at the dimwits because of what they are trying to do these brave men and women. Are they really ready to have blood on their hands for political gain? Do they enjoy controlling the lives of our military personnel? We need the funds, without any strings attached, and we need them now. I have to train my own unit this summer, unless I'm recalled, and I hope by then they'll have everything they need to do their job. |
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| bsb006 | May 1 2007, 02:24 AM Post #22 |
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Prayers with you Steven1. This subject makes me so angry, I get "trucker mouth" in 10 seconds or less. (No offense meant to truckers!!) A subject hasn't gotten me this angry in years. Keep us updated!!! Good to hear from you! |
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| Herb | May 1 2007, 01:46 PM Post #23 |
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I can deal with the media and the celebs putting us down. It is the elected officials that talk our military and the USA down that really get me ticked off. It's gotten so that when my wife sees/hears one of the know traitors on the telly she changes the channel. She's had to stop me from throwing things at the TV. |
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| Almtnman | May 1 2007, 01:54 PM Post #24 |
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Elvis would have sent a round from a .357 through the TV screen. I'm also like you, a politician that is supposed to be for the country trying to tear it down is beyond belief. |
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| Herb | May 1 2007, 04:19 PM Post #25 |
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Why do you think my wife won't let me watch the "news" with a gun in the room???? She takes the pistol and goes in another room. |
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| Warden | May 15 2007, 08:16 PM Post #26 |
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The Terrorists-Follow-Us-Home Myth By Ivan Eland March 20, 2007 Editor's Note: It's common wisdom that George W. Bush and his neoconservative advisers used false pre-war intelligence to stampede the American people into supporting the Iraq invasion four years ago. But it's less understood that the exaggerations and deceptions have continued to the present. In this guest essay, the Independent Institute's Ivan Eland assesses one of Bush's favorite current myths -- how a military withdrawal from Iraq would mean that the terrorists would follow us home: The Bush administration, desperate for justifications to buy a little more time with the American people for its failed adventure in Iraq, markets the idea that if the United States rapidly withdraws from Iraq, the “terrorists will follow us home.” A closer examination of this assertion—like the rest of the administration’s fear mongering—demonstrates it is baseless. U.S. State Department statistics show that historically, North America has had the lowest incidence of terrorism worldwide. The American public’s shocked reaction to the catastrophic 9/11 attacks was due, in part, to the infrequency of past terrorist attacks on U.S. soil. After the unique events of 9/11, terrorism in North America has resumed its historical modest trajectory. North America has been a relative safe haven from terrorism for several reasons. The United States is far away from the world’s centers of conflict. Although the United States is roundly hated in the world because of its unneeded meddling in faraway conflicts, most anti–U.S. terrorism is perpetrated on U.S. embassies and military facilities overseas—not on the American homeland. Terrorists, like conventional armies, have trouble operating in the United States because it is so far from their normal bases of operations. In addition, the United States does not have many militant foreign populations that could provide sanctuary and support for imported terrorists of the same ilk. According to Ohio State political scientist John Mueller, the lifetime probability that international terrorists will kill any one American is a miniscule one in 80,000—about the same as the same person being killed by a comet. Of course, the chances are even lower if you are an American living in America (instead of overseas) and not residing in New York, Washington, Chicago, or Los Angeles. But the average American, especially after the luck that the hijackers benefited from on 9/11, should not be blamed for overestimating the danger of terrorism. The U.S. security agencies, to get more funds and authority for their bureaucracies, have constantly used color-coded warnings and other techniques of fear mongering to keep the anxiety generated by 9/11 alive in the public consciousness. The U.S. media, getting high ratings from sensational reporting on terrorism, has been a willing accomplice to the administration effort. The “Islamo-fascist” scare has worked. The already massive U.S. defense budget has increased by 50% and the budget of the recently created Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has doubled. The DHS budget request for fiscal year 2008 is $46.5 billion, much of which goes to fight terrorism. Spending all that money to combat a threat that is as rare as a catastrophic comet hitting the United States makes little sense. If NASA were able to use the same scare tactics as DHS, perhaps the space agency could persuade a reluctant Congress to give it the paltry $1 billion (by comparison) for its equally absurd Spaceguard Survey program, which tracks asteroids and comets that have an equal probability of killing Americans as terrorists do. If the probability of Americans in the United States being killed by international terrorists remains low even after 9/11, would it increase if U.S. forces withdraw rapidly from Iraq and chaos there turns into bloody mayhem? Most likely not. According to U.S. counterterrorism experts, about 90% of al Qaeda fighters in Iraq are Iraqis, not foreign fighters. These experts believe that these fighters emphasize local concerns and would have their hands full fighting the more numerous Shi’a when U.S. forces—one of their current major targets—withdraw. Instead of being anxious about such Bush administration canards, the American people should worry about things that have a greater chance of killing them—for example, the average American’s lifetime chances of being killed in an auto accident are one in 100. Instead of focusing on potential terrorism in the homeland emanating from a post–U.S. Iraq, Americans who want to have the greatest probability of living longer lives should eat right, exercise, and wear their seat belts, and avoid smoking and excess worry (especially about jihadists following U.S. soldiers home from Iraq). Ivan Eland is Director of the Center on Peace & Liberty at The Independent Institute and Assistant Editor of The Independent Review. Dr. Eland has been Director of Defense Policy Studies at the Cato Institute, Principal Defense Analyst at the Congressional Budget Office, Evaluator-in-Charge (national security and intelligence) for the U.S. General Accounting Office, and Investigator for the House Foreign Affairs Committee. |
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| Condor | May 15 2007, 11:51 PM Post #27 |
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Islam has been trying to take over the world throughout their entire history. They target us because we are the big nut to bust. They figure that once they kill us, the rest of the world will fall. Vietnam was nothing like the war we are in now. This is not a Territorial dispute. This is a genuine clash of civilizations. It is a religious war of some 1400 years duration. Islamic leaders have been trying to build strength for generations and have almost taken the world more than once. They were pretty relaxed for a while because we gave them petrotechnology - a market for what they had to sell. They are beginning to feel the pressure as the worlds petrol reserves diminish. They know that they have nothing else to keep them in power and that if they haven't established themselves as world leaders by the time technology makes petrol fuels obsolete or the wells have run dry, they are at their end. They are under pressure. They have been fighting this war for centuries. They have time, but can see the end. In the world of Islam, there is no nation. That is a formality forced on them by the rest of the world. Borders are mercurial. Afghanistan, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, etc. are just formalities. They hide as they gather strength. They fight as the enemy shows a weakness. They retreat to await the next period of weakness. They agree with everything you have posted. They would support the same national leaders that you do. They do that because it is in their interest and they consider you stupid. They will follow us back. They are already here just waiting in the shadows. The horrific thing is that when you start to feel the pain, you will expect us to defend you and yours. By then, we may not be here to do so. |
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| Duke | May 16 2007, 03:53 AM Post #28 |
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Warden, It appears that I have the high esteem and privilege of being the first to welcome you here, there has been folks in the past that I didn't properly welcome and I don't want to make that mistake with you. God loves you and I do too, make yourself at home, you will enjoy yourself here. Thanks for joining us, Duke |
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| bsb006 | May 16 2007, 04:01 AM Post #29 |
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Welcome, Warden. I do not believe the terrorism threat is an exaggeration. I believe it is only a matter of time. More plots will arise - some will be caught, some will not. I can only pray they are all caught. I would like to see the references for this comment:
The reports I have seen claim the opposite. I believe this statement:
should be done in conjunction with anti-terrorism efforts - not instead of anti-terrorism efforts. Just MHO |
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| Toothless Dawg | May 16 2007, 08:00 AM Post #30 |
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BSB, I don't have the figures in front of me right at this moment concerning Al Qaeda in Iraq but I do have this statement about the extent of Al Qaeda. Btw, I also would seriously doubt the words of Marshall since we have captured and killed many foriegn fighters coming into Iraq and being attributed to Al Qaeda. At this time though, I cannot speak to actual percentages however find his figures highly unlikely, much like most libs statements. Anyway, on to this quote from the Terrorist Reports just published by the Dept of State
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| Toothless Dawg | May 16 2007, 08:05 AM Post #31 |
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BSB, ... and this
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| Toothless Dawg | May 16 2007, 08:11 AM Post #32 |
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... besides that, Al Qaeda is merely ONE terrorist organization of many which carry out acts of terrorism worldwide.
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| bsb006 | May 16 2007, 01:20 PM Post #33 |
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SP, I thought we may have been visited by the 'ole CDB past posters. I thank you for the quotes. I too do not have the stats in front of me. But I know they are out there - when I have more time, I will find them!!!! or maybe Culture Warrior will stop by, I am sure he know where they are. I would like to inherit some of his organizational skills!!! P.S. still loving the spell check thingy!!! |
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| Culture Warrior | May 18 2007, 01:54 AM Post #34 |
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This statement may be right, but what the LEFT failt to note, is WHO finances these Iraqi's.....Al Qaeda, Iran, and Syria.
Me, too....we need to spend less time worrying, and more time having a brewski! |
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failt to note, is WHO finances these Iraqi's.....Al Qaeda, Iran, and Syria.