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Department of Peace and Non-violence
Topic Started: Apr 16 2007, 09:47 AM (305 Views)
Toothless Dawg
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Yes children, our illustrious congress is reviewing this bill which would create, as a department of the executive branch of government, a Department of Peace and Non -violence.

One cannot make things like this up ... here is the link to the HR 808 bill

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HR 808
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Are these the same liberals that complained about the Patriot Act?

This is the time to ring the dinner bell for all of our conservative representatives on the hill.
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This is the breaking of our nation! Our elected representatives need to stand up and they need to stand up now! Distortion of history much? Taking over the declared powers of the Department of State?

Here are the only mentions of peace in the Declaration:

HE has kept among us, in Times of Peace , Standing Armies, without the consent of our Legislatures.

(I understand that paragraph to mean that England keeps an army where the army is not wanted and implies that it must be driven out. Surely, not a peaceful endeavor)

NOR have we been wanting in Attentions to our British Brethren. We have warned them from Time to Time of Attempts by their Legislature to extend an unwarrantable Jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the Circumstances of our Emigration and Settlement here. We have appealed to their native Justice and Magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the Ties of our common Kindred to disavow these Usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our Connections and Correspondence. They too have been deaf to the Voice of Justice and of Consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the Necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of Mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace , Friends.

(I read that paragraph to mean that they are our friends in peace, but our enemies in war. Once again, not a peaceful endeavor)

WE, therefore, the Representatives of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, in GENERAL CONGRESS, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the World for the Rectitude of our Intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly Publish and Declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be, FREE AND INDEPENDENT STATES; that they are absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political Connection between them and the State of Great-Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as FREE AND INDEPENDENT STATES, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace , contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which INDEPENDENT STATES may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm Reliance on the Protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor.

(The above paragraph uses the term "conclude peace" as a verb and it means that the new nation should be able to enter into treaties with other nations with no interference from Britain. Basically, that defines the role of the Department of State.)

A simple reading flies in the face of the newly formed distortions that our liberal collegues are trying to draft into law:

(1) On July 4, 1776, the Second Continental Congress unanimously declared the independence of the 13 colonies, and the achievement of peace was recognized as one of the highest duties of the new organization of free and independent States.

Can they not read? Or is it just the ability to understand and think where they fall short? The Declaration of Independence was in fact, a declaration of WAR, not peace!

Here, within H.R. 808 lies the model for the dreaded 1984 enslavement of the people and all of the failed liberal social policies of the last forty years:

(B) Domestic Responsibilities- The Secretary shall--

(1) develop policies that address domestic violence, including spousal abuse, child abuse, and mistreatment of the elderly;

(2) create new policies and incorporate existing programs that reduce drug and alcohol abuse;

(3) develop new policies and incorporate existing policies regarding crime, punishment, and rehabilitation;

(4) develop policies to address violence against animals;

(5) analyze existing policies, employ successful, field-tested programs, and develop new approaches for dealing with the implements of violence, including gun-related violence and the overwhelming presence of handguns;

(6) develop new programs that relate to the societal challenges of school violence, gangs, racial or ethnic violence, violence against gays and lesbians, and police-community relations disputes;

(7) make policy recommendations to the Attorney General regarding civil rights and labor law;

(8) assist in the establishment and funding of community-based violence prevention programs, including violence prevention counseling and peer mediation in schools;

(9) counsel and advocate on behalf of women victimized by violence;

(10) provide for public education programs and counseling strategies concerning hate crimes;

(11) promote racial, religious, and ethnic tolerance;

(12) finance local community initiatives that can draw on neighborhood resources to create peace projects that facilitate the development of conflict resolution at a national level and thereby inform and inspire national policy; and

(13) provide ethical-based and value-based analyses to the Department of Defense.


Oh, I forgot to mention their flag. It will be a nice white field with nothing on it but yellow liberal cuniforms in a passive posture.
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I can't take it anymore! And of course my dumb congressman Filner's name is on it!
This reminds me of the old hippie sit-ins and smoke-ins. That's where most of these nut cases came from, and they're still at it. Can't we all just get a bong!
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( Domestic Responsibilities- The Secretary shall--

(1) develop policies that address domestic violence, including spousal abuse, child abuse, and mistreatment of the elderly; (State to State issue)

(2) create new policies and incorporate existing programs that reduce drug and alcohol abuse; (State to State issue)


(3) develop new policies and incorporate existing policies regarding crime, punishment, and rehabilitation; (State to State issue)


(4) develop policies to address violence against animals; (State to State issue)


(5) analyze existing policies, employ successful, field-tested programs, and develop new approaches for dealing with the implements of violence, including gun-related violence and the overwhelming presence of handguns; 2nd amendment

(6) develop new programs that relate to the societal challenges of school violence, gangs, racial or ethnic violence, violence against gays and lesbians, and police-community relations disputes; (State to State issue)


(7) make policy recommendations to the Attorney General regarding civil rights and labor law;

(8) assist in the establishment and funding of community-based violence prevention programs, including violence prevention counseling and peer mediation in schools; (State to State issue - maybe even city to city)


(9) counsel and advocate on behalf of women victimized by violence; (State to State issue - maybe even city to city)


(10) provide for public education programs and counseling strategies concerning hate crimes; (State to State issue)


(11) promote racial, religious, and ethnic tolerance; (State to State issue)


(12) finance local community initiatives that can draw on neighborhood resources to create peace projects that facilitate the development of conflict resolution at a national level and thereby inform and inspire national policy; and (State to State issue)


(13) provide ethical-based and value-based analyses to the Department of Defense. PARDON ME?!?!


I want them to stay out of my business!!!!!!
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It wipes out the entire Constitution, States Rights - the few we have left, and puts the entire nation under a police state.
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Mr. KUCINICH (for himself, Mr. ABERCROMBIE, Mr. ANDREWS, Ms. BALDWIN, Ms. CORRINE BROWN of Florida, Ms. CARSON, Mr. CLAY, Mr. CONYERS, Mr. CUMMINGS, Mr. DAVIS of Illinois, Mrs. DAVIS of California, Mr. DEFAZIO, Mr. ELLISON, Mr. FARR, Mr. FILNER, Mr. AL GREEN of Texas, Mr. GRIJALVA, Ms. HIRONO, Mr. HOLT, Mr. HONDA, Mr. JACKSON of Illinois, Ms. JACKSON-LEE of Texas, Ms. EDDIE BERNICE JOHNSON of Texas, Mrs. JONES of Ohio, Ms. KAPTUR, Ms. KILPATRICK of Michigan, Ms. LEE, Mr. LEWIS of Georgia, Mrs. MALONEY of New York, Mr. MCDERMOTT, Mr. MCGOVERN, Mr. MEEKS of New York, Mr. GEORGE MILLER of California, Ms. MOORE of Wisconsin, Mr. MORAN of Virginia, Mr. NADLER, Ms. NORTON, Mr. PAYNE, Mr. RANGEL, Mr. ROTHMAN, Mr. RYAN of Ohio, Ms. SCHAKOWSKY, Mr. SCOTT of Virginia, Mr. SERRANO, Mr. SHERMAN, Mrs. TAUSCHER, Mr. TOWNS, Ms. WATERS, Ms. WATSON, Ms. WOOLSEY, Mr. WU, and Mr. WYNN) introduced the following bill -->HR 808

If any of these clowns above are your representative, you need to flood their email inbox with complaints of such a moronic bill being introduced. They have lost it up there in Washington!
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