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| The Mexican problem is really an American one; Mexicans aren't the problem, LAZY is! | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Apr 15 2007, 11:17 AM (565 Views) | |
| Condor | Apr 15 2007, 11:17 AM Post #1 |
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Before you read this, I must point out some obvious facts that really address the Mexican issue: If someone breaks into my house and starts doing all of the housekeeping and cooking and has a husband who is going to do the yard work, neither I nor my wife would ever throw them out! She is lazy and I have a big yard! The rest of it is just babble! Let's say I break into your house A lady wrote the best letter in the Editorials in ages!!! It explains things better than all the baloney you hear on TV. Her point: Recently large demonstrations have taken place across the country protesting the fact that Congress is finally addressing the issue of illegal immigration. Certain people are angry that the US might protect its own borders, might make it harder to sneak into this country and, once here, to stay indefinitely. Let me see if I correctly understand the thinking behind these protests. Let's say I break into your house. Let's say that when you discover me in your house, you insist that I leave. But I say, "I've made all the beds and washed the dishes and did the laundry and swept the floors. I've done all the things you don't like to do. I'm hard-working and honest (except for when I broke into your house). According to the protesters: You are Required to let me stay in your house You are Required to add me to your family's insurance plan You are Required to Educate my kids You are Required to Provide other benefits to me & to my family (my husband will do all of your yard work because he is also hard-working and honest, except for that breaking in part). If you try to call the police or force me out, I will call my friends who will picket your house carrying signs that proclaim my RIGHT to be there. It's only fair, after all, because you have a nicer house than I do, and I'm just trying to better myself. I'm a hard-working and honest, person, except for well, you know, I did break into your house And what a deal it is for me!!! I live in your house, contributing only a fraction of the cost of my keep, and there is nothing you can do about it without being accused of cold, uncaring, selfish, prejudiced, and bigoted behavior. Oh yeah, I DEMAND that you to learn MY LANGUAGE!!! so you can communicate with me. Why can't people see how ridiculous this is?! Only in America . if you agree, pass it on (in English). Share it if you see the value of it. If not blow it off......... along with your future Social Security funds, and a lot of other things. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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| AbidinHim | Apr 15 2007, 10:30 PM Post #2 |
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Nice and simple... with a lot of truth. If I need the beds made, dishes washed, lawn mowed,laundry done, floors swept... I'll get a wife. Just kidding ladies. I do all that myself for myself. |
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| Condor | Apr 15 2007, 10:52 PM Post #3 |
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My experience is that if you want those things done, it had better be a woman that you pay, not one you sleep with. |
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| AbidinHim | Apr 16 2007, 12:06 AM Post #4 |
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Come to think of it that has been my experience also. Guess it's been longer than I thought since I had a wife.
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| Sibs | Apr 16 2007, 06:44 AM Post #5 |
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Ron, I thought someone on here was all ready trying to find you a wife? Condor, Everyone needs a good wife, especially us working women! Ok, say we get the border problem taken care of. Who we gonna let in? Everyone or just those that can contribute to society? I say only those who can contribute. We have someone in our office right now who is here legally, going to school and getting some kind of help from welfare. Her mother is here too and is sick and has no insurance and 70K in hospital bills that they can't possibly pay. |
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| Condor | Apr 16 2007, 09:38 AM Post #6 |
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"Condor, Everyone needs a good wife, especially us working women!" You got that right. Sometimes I think the Mormans had it right. Wives need to specialize more. One for each task and a couple that are rich enough to afford the rest. Man is just the supervisor, of course! |
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| Toothless Dawg | Apr 16 2007, 10:01 AM Post #7 |
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:lol: :lol: :lol: uhhhhh I believe I will sit quietly in the corner and watch this one ... been nice knowing you Condor
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| Sibs | Apr 16 2007, 09:54 PM Post #8 |
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Condor, Sweetheart, Specializing is a good thing in many organizations, HOWEVER....I feel that everyone needs a good wife. We females just need a man we can pull out of the closet when we need them. What we don't need is someone - A MAN - telling what the women need or should be doing.
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| legitlinda | Apr 16 2007, 11:20 PM Post #9 |
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That's right Sibs, I have a card in my wallet right now that say's "Surrogate Husband"! I looked at that card and thought...surrogate husband...hmmm, I wonder what that's all about...turns out he's a fix-it-man!
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| Condor | Apr 16 2007, 11:21 PM Post #10 |
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Guess I just been in too many closets! |
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| AbidinHim | Apr 16 2007, 11:21 PM Post #11 |
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That would be Sunshine. (eharmony.com) If I have to stay in the closet can I please have the light on? How many meals do I get and will you take me for a walk once in a while? |
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| Sunshine | Apr 17 2007, 12:21 AM Post #12 |
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Yeppers that's me. I was just getting ready to post the eharmony.com website when I noticed you beat me to it. Would you like me to still help you write that personal ad ?????? Huh, Ah come on , you know you want me to help you !!!!
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| Sibs | Apr 17 2007, 05:28 AM Post #13 |
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Let's face it, they're all fixer uppers!
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| Sibs | Apr 17 2007, 05:31 AM Post #14 |
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SP, your job right now is to drag us all back on topic. What was it? |
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| Sibs | Apr 17 2007, 05:32 AM Post #15 |
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We'll hire a woman to take you out for walks
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| Toothless Dawg | Apr 17 2007, 06:26 AM Post #16 |
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Sibs, Durned if I know WHAT the topic was but the twists it is taking now is funny!!! Are you going to have your own website for your new profession ...??? WWW.HUBBYWALKERS.COM |
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| AbidinHim | Apr 17 2007, 11:00 PM Post #17 |
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Go for a walk... go for a walk. I always say "I'm as ugly as a hound dog, but am also just as faithful". (I should put that in the quotes thread.) Now to kinda bring the thread back to the subject... that's an American hound dog not a Mexican one. |
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| Ali | Apr 18 2007, 09:35 PM Post #18 |
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I think that we all just got lazy. We forgot how rewarding it is to mow the lawn - sit back on the front porch and smell the new cut grass and our own sweat, drink a glass of iced tea we poured for ourselves. Waxing the car, cleaning our homes, cooking our meals - we've lost our 'fetchin' up'. We've lost those simple rewards. Now we 'hire' someone to make us feel better about ourselves ....and it doesn't! Kids haven't wanted the jobs that the Mexican's have been taking for many years -they know that they can make more money selling drugs on the street corner. It's not right, but it's all about the money. Where did a lot of our large factories and corporations go, back in the late 70's and 80's .....Mexico!!! Cheaper wages, cheaper taxes. We screwed ourselve's! |
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| Sibs | Apr 19 2007, 05:13 AM Post #19 |
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Ali, thanks for bringing us back on topic. Back to my previous question - if we close the borders who do we let in? The adults to work the cheap labor jobs or only those who can get jobs that will support their families and contribute something? Granted we need people to work cheap labor jobs, but add a wife and a few kids and we've done nothing but increased the working poor and added to the people receiving some kind of govt handout. Ya can't raise a family on 10 bucks an hour and I'm not sure you can raise one if both parents work making 10 bucks and hour. |
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| Toothless Granny | Apr 19 2007, 08:09 AM Post #20 |
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It seems to me that the U.S.A. has gone backwards for the last few decades. People used to take pride in their work. To buy something "made in the U.S.A." was a stamp of quality. Remember how we laughed at the cheap little transistor radios "made in Japan" or anything else imported from there??? Now it seems things have turned over the other way. If we depend on cheap labor, are we not also depending on cheap products???? Evidenced by the recent spinach scare, where the crops were tended by migrant workers? The recent wheat glutin scare where we imported it from China's "cheap labor"? We either need to pay our "migrant workers" well enough for them to take pride in their work, or do it ourselves. Time to get our hands dirty again. We've gotten soft and lazy. No wonder the world has no respect for us. |
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| legitlinda | Apr 19 2007, 10:39 AM Post #21 |
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Our teenagers used to work the cheap labor jobs at the fast food restaurants. Not anymore, the jobs are taken by people who can't communicate in English. Mowing lawns used to be how enterprising teenage boys made some money. Not anymore, taken by immigrants, legal or illegal. I was 16 and had my first job at Der Weinerschnitzel. It counted as two credits. I left half day and went to work. I don't think they even have programs like that anymore. Where's a kid going to go? Walmart? Forget about it if you don't speak Spanish, even if you do the jobs are taken. A lot of young unskilled women used to be able to get jobs as maids in hotels. Those jobs are taken now. My point is that not all of these jobs are jobs that Americans won't do. They're jobs that have been taken away from us by the cheap labor of immigrants. |
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| Toothless Dawg | Apr 19 2007, 11:13 AM Post #22 |
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I remember my first 'job' when I was a rising young enterpreneur of about 7-8 years old. I would rent one of the old rotary push mowers for $1 a day and cut lawns for $.25 a lawn. They weren't big lawns fortunately and I could get 8-12 lawns done per day. Of course that was in the early 50s too ... but I still remember it with pride. |
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| Condor | Apr 19 2007, 07:49 PM Post #23 |
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TG, you have the podium on this one. We took a turn someplace in the late 1960's or late 1950's where we started respecting a person's wealth, not that persons quality. I still remember when you referred to someone in terms of what a great job they did, not how big the house or car was. I saw it happening and now I see the results of it. I have to brag that I did see this coming. That does no one any good except that the analysis of a problem is the first step to resolving it. On the subject of analysis and not to hijack the thread: There have been many voices in the last couple of days saying that we shouldn't point fingers in the Virginia Tech disaster. I find that to be wrong. Pointing fingers is a part of analysis and analysis must be done while the data is still fresh. |
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| Sibs | Apr 20 2007, 07:02 AM Post #24 |
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Linda they do still have that program here in our school district. My kids weren't in the program but they all worked at the grocery store after school. Youngest is a senior and she quit the grocery store and works with me at my second job doing concessions and catering. She doesn't put in as many hours but makes about the same money. TG, seems like we don't manufacture anything anymore. The country as a whole seemed to go into the service business and now we're sending those jobs to India!! |
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| Hick | Apr 20 2007, 11:19 AM Post #25 |
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Service Industry?!?!? Is that why we have to listen to computer menus whenever we call a business or have to deal with Apu in India? |
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| gobblerblaster | Apr 20 2007, 12:06 PM Post #26 |
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I guess President Bush and the dark forces behind this Pilot Program to take away American truckers jobs, consider Owner / Operator Truckers as a Service Industry. I still think someone is holding some kind of political or financial gun to the Presidents head on this one. |
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| legitlinda | Apr 20 2007, 01:50 PM Post #27 |
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Sibs, I didn't know they said they wanted to do that, but it sure did back fire on us, we the people, didn't it. I called customer service for my dishwasher, and yes, I got Apu in India. While I was on hold I said to my daughter-in-law, "I hate it when I get someone in India"! When "Apu" came back on with my confirmation # one of the letters was "I", when he read it to me he said, "I, as in India"! <_< Oops, they can hear you when they put you on hold! I'm glad to hear your school still has the work program and that you daughter works after school. We do need to make sure we instill a good work ethic in our kids. |
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| legitlinda | Apr 20 2007, 02:04 PM Post #28 |
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I don't know GB, I think President Bush is a globalist, and it started with his father. He was the first one I heard use the words "New World Order", in public when he was President. Check this out. Check this out too. |
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| Condor | Apr 20 2007, 04:17 PM Post #29 |
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This is where I had thought my comment was going: Linda, remember in the 1990's when the Dims said they were going to convert our national economy to a service industry? They said it would provide more jobs. That exhibits their shallowness of mind when they imagine that just providing service can support a nation. I should never post when my wife is calling me to breakfast! Apologies to Sibs |
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| Sibs | Apr 21 2007, 07:55 AM Post #30 |
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Service industry is good, but who needs service industry if we're not producing anything and then they send the jobs to India.... They get a little pi$$y, but I usually tell them I can't understand them and to send me to someone who speaks English. So far it's worked. I wonder what the illegals do when they get the guy in India? Can the guys in India speak Spanish too? |
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| Duke | Apr 21 2007, 11:29 PM Post #31 |
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Austell Rd. mentioned in the article is a road I travel fairly often; Illegal document ring busted in Cobb By YOLANDA RODRÍGUEZ The Atlanta Journal-Constitution Published on: 04/20/07 Federal authorities have indicted eight Cobb County residents — including six illegal immigrants — for making false government documents. The ring produced the documents at a Marietta apartment and sold them at a laundromat and tire center, said U.S. Attorney David E. Nahmias. The documents included Social Security cards, immigration papers, state drivers licenses and identification cards, he said. The apartment, at the Twelve Oaks complex on Austell Road, contained more than 200 documents purported to have been issued by the U.S. government. Police also seized computers, laminating machines, cards, printers, identification cards and more than 1,000 Polaroid and passport-style photographs in the apartment. A federal grand jury indicted Ricardo Quinones Cruz, 33; Allen Carmona, 21; Juan Castillo, 36; Enrique Cristobal Martinez, 34; Ivan Raul Garcia, 40; Manuel Dozano Ortiz, 28; Cindy Salinas, 19; and Armando Nunez-Briseno, 29. The U.S. Attorney's Office in Atlanta announced the indictments Thursday. The suspects are charged with conspiring to possess those fake documents and to encourage and induce aliens to reside illegally in the United States. Nahmias alleged that Ortiz and Salinas sold the documents from the #1 Coin Laundry in Smyrna. Nunez-Briseno allegedly sold the documents from Juan's Tire Service in Marietta. Six of the suspects, Quinones Cruz, Carmona, Martinez, Garcia and Ortiz are in the U.S. illegally, the U.S. Attorney's office said. Quinones Cruz also is charged with illegal re-entry after a prior deportation. The U.S. Attorney's office also charged the suspects with aggravated identity theft. Violations of this 2004 law trigger a two-year prison term, in addition to the sentence for an underlying crime. Salinas was arraigned late Thursday and was granted a $25,000 bond. Prosecutors expect to arraign the other suspects next week |
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| Neese | May 2 2007, 10:15 PM Post #32 |
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If you are tired of illegal immigration, please sign the petition and pass it on to your friends. http://www.reformus.org/ Thank you. |
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| Toothless Dawg | May 3 2007, 07:24 AM Post #33 |
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Signed (in English) and submitted. |
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| legitlinda | May 3 2007, 10:01 AM Post #34 |
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I signed it too, but I don't know what good it will do. The President wants his Pathway to Citizenship Plan to go through. :angry: |
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| bsb006 | May 3 2007, 02:35 PM Post #35 |
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Call me a hyprocite if you like - but I am praying the Dems - in their attempt to de-throne the President - stand up against this bill too - the way they are about Iraq. If they try to stop EVERYTHING he is doing - that is ONE (and ONLY one) area I hope they succeed. Probably won't happen - but I am choosing to be optimistic here......
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| Deanna | May 3 2007, 04:29 PM Post #36 |
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I'll tell ya right now... There is no way in Hell I'll pay an illegal to do ANYTHING for me. I got a girl comin' to my house today in fact to clean. The neighbors 14 yr. old daughter!!!!! Are you kidding me my son will mow your lawn for $10.00 he's only 9 he can work a RIDING, PUSHING, ELECTRIC AND GAS mower> he's a heck of an edger too w/ the weedeater. YOU DON'T EVER HAVE TO HIRE AN ILLEGAL. IT'S A CHOICE IT'S ALL ABOUT INTEGRITY. BY THE WAY. HI EVERYONE. I'VE BEEN GONE FOR A WHILE THINK I'LL COME BACK IF YA'LL LET ME COME AND PLAY. PROMISE I'LL BE GOOD
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| Condor | May 3 2007, 06:52 PM Post #37 |
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I do my own lawn because the last white guy I hired quoted me his price. I told him it was too low but he insisted. Things went well for about a month and then he quit showing up or answering his phone. I never did figure out what happened but I went to town, got me a John Deer and have been doing it myself ever since. |
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| Toothless Dawg | May 3 2007, 08:32 PM Post #38 |
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Nope ya gotta be feisty to play here ... :lol: :lol: :lol: |
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