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| bsb006 | Mar 27 2007, 01:04 PM Post #1 |
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Webb Denies He Gave Aide Gun That Led to Arrest Tuesday , March 27, 2007 WASHINGTON — Virginia Sen. Jim Webb said Tuesday he did not give aide Phillip Thompson the gun that led to his arrest in a Senate office building. Webb did not say whether it was his gun. Thompson is awaiting arraignment in D.C. Superior Court after being arrested Monday for trying to enter the Russell Senate Office Building, where Webb's office is located, carrying a loaded pistol and two fully loaded magazines. The judge will determine whether Thompson, 45, will have to pay bail to get out of jail, and will set a date for a preliminary hearing. Thompson spent the night in a D.C. jail after U.S. Capitol Police determined Monday that he did not have a permit to carry a gun in Washington, D.C., where only law enforcement officials are allowed to carry handguns. He is charged with carrying a pistol without a license and possession of an unregistered firearm and unregistered ammunition. According to the court docket, Monday was Thompson's birthday. A senior Democratic aide said Monday evening that Thompson forgot that he had the weapon when he sent the senator's bag through the X-ray machine at the office building. The aide said Webb gave the bag that contained the gun to Thompson when the aide drove the senator to the airport. Webb said he has been in New Orleans since Friday and returned Monday night. He denied that he gave the weapon to Thompson. "We had three cars on Friday that were being moved about because of my trip, and that is probably a reason that this inadvertent situation developed. And that's really the extent to which I think I should be discussing. That's really all I can say," he said, adding that he couldn't talk about the case because of the legal proceedings and his desire not to prejudice the situation. But Webb did shoot down rumors that he carries a gun in the Capitol complex. "I believe that it's important — it's important for me, personally, and for a lot of people in the situation that I'm in, to be able to defend myself and my family," Webb said. "Since 9/11 for people who are in government I think in general there has been an agreement that it's a more dangerous time. Again, I'm not going to comment, again, with great specificity about how I defend myself, but I do feel that I have that right." Thompson, a former military reporter based in Virginia, joined the senator's staff at the beginning of Webb's Senate campaign. Webb was elected to office in November. Thompson travels frequently with the senator. Asked what support the senator was giving to his aide, Webb told FOX News, "We're doing all we can." "I want to emphasize, first of all, that Phillip Thompson is a long-time friend. He's a fine individual. ... I have a tremendous amount of respect for him," Webb told reporters. "I think this is one of those very unfortunate situations where, completely inadvertently, he took the weapon into the Senate yesterday." Handguns are illegal in Washington, D.C., but nearby Virginia allows residents to carry concealed handguns. Capitol Police rules allow members and their employees to bring a weapon onto Capitol grounds if it is unloaded and securely wrapped. In this case, it was allegedly neither. Webb said he is a big supporter of the constitutional right to bear arms and thinks Virginia's concealed handgun law is a "fair law." "Everyone here knows that I am a strong supporter of the Second Amendment, that I have had a permit to carry a weapon in Virginia for a long time," he said. FOX News' Jim Angle and Trish Turner contributed to this report. Story link ************************** how many headlines will this bring in???? At least he believes in the 2nd Amendment
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| Toothless Dawg | Mar 27 2007, 02:13 PM Post #2 |
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Dawgone dims, I thought ya'll were so used to lying that you would at least get your stories straight before breaking the law again ...
Uhhhhh you bloated, egotistical, lying POS ... you think protection of ones family only happens if you're in government? May a thousand hillary fleas inhabit your mattress as you attempt to sleep!!! Man, I hate democrats ... every stinkin' one of them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| bsb006 | Mar 27 2007, 02:51 PM Post #3 |
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Sorry - SP - didn't mean to git yer dander up!!!! He belongs to you, doesn't he? I will have to remember to check CNBC and CNN to see if they are covering the story...... |
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| Toothless Dawg | Mar 27 2007, 03:24 PM Post #4 |
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Barri Sue, yeaaaaaaah, tha's what hurts so much. First Kaine, then Webb ... Old Dominion is hurtin' for sure. Its not your fault BSB, its the durn idjit voters that voted those two idiots into office. |
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| Condor | Mar 27 2007, 11:13 PM Post #5 |
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Exemplifies the liberal Dim's attitude about guns: "I believe that it's important — it's important for me, personally, and for a lot of people in the situation that I'm in, to be able to defend myself and my family," Webb said. "Since 9/11 for people who are in government I think in general there has been an agreement that it's a more dangerous time. Again, I'm not going to comment, again, with great specificity about how I defend myself, but I do feel that I have that right." They are OK for me and mine, but not for you and yours. Statistically, how many plain citizens have been killed during and since 9/11 compared to hopw many elected officials. Now, looking at that number set, who is the more in danger and should be favored in the carrying of a weapon? I'll bet your answer is somewhat different than Mr. Webb's. |
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| bsb006 | Mar 28 2007, 01:08 AM Post #6 |
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ok - CNN covered it....... Webb's aide facing felony charge in gun flap POSTED: 8:52 p.m. EDT, March 27, 2007 Story Highlights• Webb aide released after pleading not guilty to weapons charge • Aide told police he was carrying Webb's pistol, for which the senator has permit • Webb says he gave his gun to different aides before he got on a plane • Webb defends his right to defend himself and his family WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Sen. Jim Webb called the arrest of a top aide on weapons charges "extremely unfortunate" Tuesday after the aide was stopped as he brought the senator's loaded pistol into a Senate office building. Through an attorney, Phillip Thompson pleaded not guilty to a felony charge of carrying a pistol without a license Tuesday afternoon. He was released on his own recognizance after spending the night in jail. Capitol police arrested Thompson on that count and misdemeanor charges of carrying an unregistered firearm and ammunition after they found the weapon in a briefcase he was carrying into the Russell Senate Office Building Monday afternoon. (Watch Webb on his aide's arrest ) Channing Phillips, a spokesman for the U.S. attorney's office in Washington, said it was routine procedure for the office to present only the most serious count at an arraignment, with lesser charges presented to a grand jury. Webb, a freshman Democrat from Virginia, declined comment on details of Thompson's case, but called him "a longtime friend" and "a fine individual." "He has worked for me since the beginning of the campaign last year," he said. "I have a tremendous amount of respect for him. I think this is one of those very unfortunate situations where, completely inadvertently, he took the weapon into the Senate yesterday." Webb has a concealed handgun permit in Virginia and an A rating from the National Rifle Association for his stances on gun rights. He said he handed his weapon off to aides before getting on a plane to New Orleans on Friday. He said he did not give Thompson the weapon directly, and was unsure how it ended up with him. "We had three cars on Friday that were being moved about because of my trip, and that is probably a reason that this inadvertent situation developed," he said. "And that's really the extent to which I think I should be discussing." Thompson faces a May 1 hearing on the charge, which carries a range of sentences from probation to five years in prison. But Peter Hamm, a spokesman for the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, said Webb "really should take responsibility for this." "He should be ashamed of himself," Hamm said. "His aide is facing legal bills up the wazoo." Webb "should say it was a mistake and that it was my mistake," he added. The group made no endorsement in last year's Virginia senate race, in which Webb won his seat. The District of Columbia has much tighter gun laws than Virginia. It is illegal to carry a firearm in the capital city, and handguns are banned. Webb spokeswoman Jessica Smith said she did not know whether her boss brings his weapon into the city. And the senator declined comment on his compliance with Washington ordinances, but said it is important for him "to be able to defend myself and my family." "Since 9/11, for people who are in government, I think in general, there has been an agreement that it's a more dangerous time," he said. "I'm not going to comment, again, with great specificity about how I defend myself, but I do feel that I have that right." CNN's Brianna Keilar, Eric Fiegel and Scott Anderson contributed to this report. *************************** SOOOOO, it sounds like he does not comply with DC's rules... Again, laws only apply to regular citizens and Republican officials??????? |
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| bsb006 | Mar 28 2007, 01:42 AM Post #7 |
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NBC -Nightly has a video of "Sen. Webb discusses arrest of aide" MSNBC - Gun arrest gives Webb political opening Virginia Democrat uses incident with aide to proclaim right of self-defense By Tom Curry National affairs writer MSNBC Updated: 6:34 p.m. ET March 27, 2007 WASHINGTON - Sen. Jim Webb turned an awkward episode — the arrest of one of his aides for carrying a gun into one of the Senate office buildings — into a political opportunity Tuesday, giving a spirited defense of his and other Americans’ right to carry firearms to defend themselves. While Webb, D-Va., did not specifically say he’d support a change in the law in the District of Columbia that bans most residents and visitors from carrying or even possessing guns, he did defend the right of people to use guns in self-defense. “I’m a strong supporter of the Second Amendment; I have had a permit to carry a weapon in Virginia for a long time; I believe that it’s important; it’s important to me personally and to a lot of people in the situation that I’m in to be able to defend myself and my family,” he said. Since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, he said, “it’s a more dangerous time” for those serving in government. “I’m not going to comment with great specificity about how I defend myself, but I do feel I have that right,” he added. Webb, a Marine veteran of the Vietnam War and former secretary of the Navy, said members of Congress did not have the high level of protection that the president and executive branch officials have. As a result, he said, “We are required to defend ourselves.” Not specific on how he defends himself When a reporter asked Webb if he considered himself “above Washington D.C.’s gun law,” the Virginian replied that he would not comment on “how I provide for my own security.” When asked if he thought the D.C. law should be changed to allow law-abiding people in Washington to carry weapons, Webb stressed his support for the Second Amendment and added, “I believe the Virginia law is a fair law. I believe that wherever you see laws that allow people to carry (weapons), generally the violence goes down.” Webb, who won by only four-tenths of one percent last November over Sen. George Allen, has made a point of differing with liberal Democrats on the gun issue. Webb argued in his 2004 book “Born Fighting” that 2000 Democratic presidential nominee Al Gore’s “position on gun control cost him the election, not in Florida but in the Scots-Irish redoubts of Tennessee and West Virginia, both of which through history and logic should have been slam-dunk electoral votes in his favor.” Virginia law allows citizens to get a permit to carry a concealed weapon, as long as they are not felons nor have been convicted of a violent misdemeanor. Carrying loaded pistol Webb aide Phillip Thompson was arraigned Tuesday for violating D.C. law. “He completely inadvertently took the weapon into the Senate yesterday,” Webb said. Capitol police said that Thompson had a loaded pistol with two additional fully loaded magazines when he entered the Russell Senate Office building Monday. He was charged with carrying a pistol without a license and having an unregistered firearm and unregistered ammunition. The arrest came only a few days after the gun issue forced Democratic leaders were to avert a House vote on giving the District of Columbia a voting representative in the House. Rep. Lamar Smith, R-Texas, used a parliamentary tactic to try to force a vote on his proposal to overturn the D.C. gun ban. Rather than allow that vote, Democratic leaders temporarily shunted aside the entire D.C. representation bill. They have pledged to bring the legislation back after the Easter recess, and the Republican sponsor of the bill, Rep. Tom Davis of Virginia, said Tuesday that Democratic leaders could find a parliamentary method of ruling Smith’s gun measure non-germane. Republican amused at Webb comments Smiling with amusement at Webb’s defense of gun owners’ rights, Smith jokingly wondered if Webb would send a letter to House Democrats urging them to support his effort to scrap the district’s gun ban. “We’ve heard for so long how strong the Democrats felt about voting rights for D.C. residents, and yet they were willing to kill the bill rather than allow D.C. residents to have firearms to protect themselves against criminals,” Smith said. He supports retro-ceding most D.C. territory back to Maryland and thus giving all people now residing in the district representation by Maryland’s members of the House. Last week when Smith unveiled his gun provisions, D.C. delegate Eleanor Holmes Norton denounced the move as “disgusting” and said, “All that they got was a nuisance delay, but we will get our bill any day now.” Some House Democrats would vote for Smith’s gun proposal if it were on the floor. One of them, Rep. Collin Peterson, D-Minn. said Tuesday, “I just don’t believe gun control laws work. What we see is that communities where they have strict gun control laws actually have more problems with crime than communities that don’t.” He said crime in Washington, D.C., itself was evidence of that: “That proves the point." He added that "people that know how to handle guns, there should be no prohibition against them having a gun.” Democrat keeps guns in his office Peterson said his constituents in his mostly rural Minnesota district are aware of the D.C. gun ban. “They ask me questions about what I do with my guns. The answer is they’re in my (Capitol) office because it’s legal,” Peterson said. Asked how he gets his guns from his residence to his office, Peterson said, “It’s not very far to the Virginia line.” Federal law allows members of Congress “or their agents” to transport unloaded and securely wrapped firearms to and from the Capitol grounds. On March 9, a three-judge panel of the federal appeals court in the District of Columbia overturned part of the district’s gun ban. District of Columbia Mayor Adrian Fenty has pledged to fight that ruling, possibly by appealing to the Supreme Court. While the city moves to petition the full Court of Appeals for rehearing, the gun law remains in effect. © 2007 MSNBC Interactive© 2007 MSNBC Interactive URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17819572/from/RS.4/ An interesting spin - wouldn't you say??? If Webb were REPUBLICAN - would the story read like this??????? The bias is really beginning to get to me!!! |
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| bsb006 | Mar 28 2007, 01:55 AM Post #8 |
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If ABC covered it - it is well hidden - This should be in the media thread...but check out ABC's politic's page Highlights: Political Round up: Edwards Campaign Takes Turn Toward Crusade Edwards Gives Talk on Cancer Obama: Investigate Duke Lacrosse DA Nifong GMA Town Hall: Senate's Iraq Vote Exclusive: Hillary Clinton Answers Your E-Mails Hillary on Health Care, Veterans Nine Called 'Responsible' in Tillman Case Senate Takes Crack at War Funding and Timeline Democrats Short on Detail for Healthcare Overhaul Edwards Tackles Healthcare in the Headlines, at Home Bill Clinton Puts New 'Spin' on Fundraising 2008 Democratic Forum: Dodd Laments Iraq "Mistake" Dodd Regrets Iraq Vote "Mistake" Clinton Denounces 'Politics of Personal Destruction' Clinton Brushes Back Obama Vilsack: What Have You Done to End War Today? Vilsack: Let's Challenge Ourselves Edwards Says Country Needs "Someone Who Will Take Responsibility for Their Mistake" Edwards: I Take Responsibility for My Iraq Vote Richardson Accentuates the Positive, But Calls Out Obama Richardson: Obama Should Denounce Geffen Biden: "Just Look Me Over" Biden: Bush Administration Has been 'Absolutely Irresponsible' Kucinich Mocks Dem Rivals for Being Tricked By Bush Kucinich: It's Time to End Occupation Gravel Would Choose "Vilsack First, Richardson Second" for President Gravel: I'm Not Politics as Usual BTW - THERE IS NO 2008 REPUBLICAN FORUM!!!!! ok i'm done now.....but i don't feel better.....
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| Condor | Mar 28 2007, 07:19 AM Post #9 |
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This (Webb issue) may be a good thing indeed for citizens rights to responsible self protection. Having a Democrat come out on the side of the ordinary citizen needing self protection just about smashes all of the anti-gun theories that I have heard. I targeted his "Being who I am" message about needing self protection, and the general Dim view on weapons. This case brings something else to light. The protection that he needs in Virginia doesn't diminish when he drives across into DC. Their police force is not as capable of protecting the citizen as is the Arlington county police force. There is no locker as you drive acrost in which you can secure your weapon for the day either. |
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| bsb006 | Mar 29 2007, 01:16 PM Post #10 |
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Feinstein article March 28, 2007 Culture of Corruption: Dianne Feinstein Edition? HELLO, MSM? Echooooo... According to MetroActive, she resigned quietly (where was the MSM?) in January from a Military Construction Appropriations committee over a conflict of interest involving her husband, tens of millions of dollars in defense and construction contracts, etc. MetroActive speculates that the resignation was due to the impending release of a scathing expose (funded by The Nation) that threatened to blow the lid off the air-tight kettledrum of ethical problems: SEN. Dianne Feinstein has resigned from the Military Construction Appropriations subcommittee. As previously and extensively reviewed in these pages, Feinstein was chairperson and ranking member of MILCON for six years, during which time she had a conflict of interest due to her husband Richard C. Blum's ownership of two major defense contractors, who were awarded billions of dollars for military construction projects approved by Feinstein. As MILCON leader, Feinstein relished the details of military construction, even micromanaging one project at the level of its sewer design. She regularly took junkets to military bases around the world to inspect construction projects, some of which were contracted to her husband's companies, Perini Corp. and URS Corp. Perhaps she resigned from MILCON because she could not take the heat generated by Metro's expose of her ethics (which was partially funded by the Investigative Fund of the Nation Institute). Or was her work on the subcommittee finished because Blum divested ownership of his military construction and advanced weapons manufacturing firms in late 2005? WHERE IS THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA? WHERE ARE THE DEMOCRATS TO CONDEMN AND ASK FOR HER RESIGNATION? WHERE IS NANCY PELOSI? WHERE IS HARRY REID? WHERE IS CHUCK SCHUMER? More importantly, WHERE THE HELL ARE THE REPUBLICANS? This is genuine news. Political corruption on a scale as big as Duke Cunningham, and the mainstream press is worried about 8 US attorneys losing their jobs in a completely legal hard-ball political axing-session. The Culture of Corruption has 'returned' - bigger and better than ever before! **************************************** Where is MSM on this one?????? Ethics - PFFFFFFT!! |
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| Duke | Mar 29 2007, 01:49 PM Post #11 |
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Good post and comments ya'll. I enjoyed reading them and will continue. Thank ya'll, Duke |
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| Condor | Mar 29 2007, 04:44 PM Post #12 |
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I keep wondering where the Repubs are too. There are more than enough bricks to throw and none are being thrown! |
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