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North American Union; Security & Prosperity Partnership (SPP)
Topic Started: Feb 16 2007, 06:16 PM (1,630 Views)
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Well, I was looking around today for some Conservative sites and I came across The Conservative Caucus with Howard Phillips and it happened to be about the NAU so it caught my attention and I watched the video. It's 27 minutes, but I think it's worth the time. Howard Phillips is interviewing Jerome Corsi and he explains what the SPP is all about.

I admit I know nothing about this organization or Howard Phillips so if he's known to be a whacko I apologize.

Here it is

Let me know what you think.
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Corsi appears on Coast to Coast w/Art Bell and George Noory a LOT !! If that tells you anythang..

Like Ronald Reagan said about Gorby, "trust, but verify" !!
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OH...NO...Mr. Bill!!!! What did ya have to go and tell me that for??? : :o :faint: :lol: :thinking about it:
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Regardles of this one eroneous source. The NAU is the real deal and coming if someone don't stop it.
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When I tell people about this they think it's too far fetched to believe and I know it sounds that way, but I do believe it's in the works. :(
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Here are some links to show these head in the sand ignoramaces
Nasco
SPP
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gobblerblaster,Feb 22 2007
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Here are some links to show these head in the sand ignoramaces
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SPP

Good links, thanks. :)
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Sounds like a North American Union to me.

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Our Partnership will accomplish these objectives through a trilateral effort to increase the security, prosperity, and quality of life of our citizens.  This work will be based on the principle that our security and prosperity are mutually dependent and complementary, and will reflect our shared belief in freedom, economic opportunity, and strong democratic values and institutions.  Also, it will help consolidate our action into a North American framework to confront security and economic challenges, and promote the full potential of our people, addressing disparities and increasing opportunities for all.


I wonder what they mean by "addressing disparities"?

dis·par·i·ty (d-spr-t) KEY

NOUN:
pl. dis·par·i·ties
The condition or fact of being unequal, as in age, rank, or degree; difference: "narrow the economic disparities among regions and industries"


so·cial·ism (ssh-lzm) KEY

NOUN:

Any of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy.

Just a thought.... :thinking about it:
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Mexican Trucks in USA

Apparently President Bush is authorizing allowing mexican trucks further access into the United States. This will take effect in around 60 days. Of course El Presidente says that US Inspectors will inspect ALL mexican trucks and their drivers prior to allowing them into the country. To this National Transportation Safety Board member Debbie Hersman questioned how the U.S. could spare sending inspectors to Mexico when only a tiny percentage of the hundreds of thousands of U.S. truck companies are inspected every year.

I'll tell you one thing ... if you don't already begin giving big trucks a lot more room on the highways. Mexican trucks and truckers are definitely hazardous.

Hey just thought about this ... if mexicans can fit 20 illegals in a pickup or van, how many illegals can they fit in a tractor/trailer??? :cb13: smiley-bounce-fire
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It's a scary thought. Mexicans don't take driving tests in Mexico, I'm not even sure if they need a license to drive, they just drive. :o They don't have insurance, so if you get into an accident with them your are SOL! The gas they use in their cars stinks to high heaven, I guess because they don't have the regulations on gas that we have here. We have lots of Mexican drivers on the road here. We all know to stay away from them! The only thing you can count on is, that you can't count on their next move. They'll cut into you lane without any warning, without using any signals of course, or they'll drive 30 miles an hour while everyone else is going at least 65 and you end up hitting the brakes on the freeway.

I know they say that they will be properly trained to drive the trucks, be insured, and the trucks will be inspected, but like the article said, how are we going to spare the inspectors to go into Mexico and how often will it happen?

Is every truck leaving from Mexico going to be stopped and inspected at the border to see what their cargo is? I doubt that very much. From what I've read when that NAFTA superhighway is finished the first check stop will be in Kansas by Mexican Customs Ispectors!

Kansas City Smart Port

I'm afraid we're leaving ourselves wide open for any number of things to go wrong.

Check out the links that Gobblerblaster posted. The NASCO one is about the Super Highway.

NAIPIN (Inland Ports)

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This is the part that bothers me
"Reduce the costs of trade through the efficient movement of goods and people" The People and the goods are all moving North (Illegals and Drugs) and all the Jobs are headed South in search of Cheap Labor and less restriction.
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Perhaps our politicians stand to make millions, if not billions, from this illegal trade
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legitlinda,Feb 26 2007
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It's a scary thought. Mexicans don't take driving tests in Mexico, I'm not even sure if they need a license to drive, they just drive. :o They don't have insurance, so if you get into an accident with them your are SOL! The gas they use in their cars stinks to high heaven, I guess because they don't have the regulations on gas that we have here. We have lots of Mexican drivers on the road here. We all know to stay away from them! The only thing you can count on is, that you can't count on their next move. They'll cut into you lane without any warning, without using any signals of course, or they'll drive 30 miles an hour while everyone else is going at least 65 and you end up hitting the brakes on the freeway.

I know they say that they will be properly trained to drive the trucks, be insured, and the trucks will be inspected, but like the article said, how are we going to spare the inspectors to go into Mexico and how often will it happen?

Is every truck leaving from Mexico going to be stopped and inspected at the border to see what their cargo is? I doubt that very much. From what I've read when that NAFTA superhighway is finished the first check stop will be in Kansas by Mexican Customs Ispectors!

Kansas City Smart Port

I'm afraid we're leaving ourselves wide open for any number of things to go wrong.

Check out the links that Gobblerblaster posted. The NASCO one is about the Super Highway.

NAIPIN (Inland Ports)

:praying:

For sure, if their trucks come up through the States, I want the truck muffler concession.
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There ya go, that might just be a way for a regular citizen to make some money off this deal!
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Former Kansas City Trooper's views on what's in store for America if we don't do something to stop it.

http://www.newswithviews.com/Evensen/greg8.htm
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Toothless Dawg,Feb 26 2007
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Perhaps our politicians stand to make millions, if not billions, from this illegal trade

I think you may be right. We're going to be bringing in cargo from China through Mexican ports, using Mexican workers, loading Mexican trucks driven by Mexican drivers. Doesn't sound like American workers will be used much in this deal.

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You know, I have been an advocate of the fence but, now that I think about it Im not so sure. We might have to sneek into Mexico to find a job. :proud:
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You know, I have been an advocate of the fence but, now that I think about it Im not so sure. We might have to sneek into Mexico to find a job. :proud:

The same goes for healthcare. I tell my brother who doesn't have health insurance (even though he's a respiratory therapist and works in a hospital) to just go to the hospital and pretend he's an illegal alien. Why not, he speaks Spanish, and if they can do it why can't he? His blonde hair and blue eyes work against him there though! Posted Image
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Rick Roberts is a conservative talk show host here in San Diego who is against the formation of the NAU.

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More on Mexican Truckers

AMERICAN TRUCK DRIVERS SCREWED BY BUSH

By Frosty Wooldridge
March 5, 2007
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President Bush announced that Mexican truck drivers will be allowed on America’s highways within sixty days. Soon, he’ll announce that Mexican drivers will “do the jobs that American truckers won’t do.”

How many ways can an American president screw his own citizens? On Bush’s watch, America’s poor suffer job losses in landscaping, construction, dry wall, hotel, restaurant, lawn mowing, retail, fast food, roofing, taxi and dozens of other trades. On Bush’s watch, outsourcing, insourcing and offshoring work cost American citizens 1,000,000 jobs. On Bush’s watch, America’s manufacturing sector lost 3 million jobs. On Bush’s watch, over 10 million illegal aliens crossed our borders in six years. On Bush’s watch, hundreds of thousands of killers, drug dealers, rapists and child molesters roam free in America.

Now, President Bush drives his serrated knife into the heart of American truckers.

Why? Soon, Mexican truck drivers will undercut wages of all American truckers, just like Mexicans destabilize wages from construction workers, roofers, landscapers and other trades.

This is a reality check from a man who has driven the big rigs across 48 states. As a teacher in the 70s, my salary at $5,400.00 a year, barely kept me above the poverty line. Each summer for 24 years, I loaded, drove 1,500 to 2,000 miles across America, and unloaded for United Van Lines. I busted my hump. I worked 70 to 100 hours a week. Don’t tell the DOT. I earned four times as much money in three months as I made in nine months teaching math and science.

What did I discover? American truckers consist of the finest, most dedicated and outstanding professionals in the world. Their office is America’s Interstates. They’ve got to be 100 percent perfect 10 hours a day as they drive 40,000 pounds of freight down the expressway. “Breaker one nine, you got the Rubber Duck here; what’s your 20?” CB radios make up their communication network. They listen to country and western music; wear cowboy boots and baseball caps. Truckers fill your life with food, clothing, cars, gasoline, mail and everything else. America moves by trucks. I still carry my CDL.

As a teacher and a trucker, you need to know what I know. The average Mexican trucker tops out with a 6th grade education in a foreign language with Third World educational standards. For starters, 63 percent of Mexico’s 104 million people remain illiterate. What does a 6th grader think about? Mostly: me, now and perhaps recess in ten minutes. They lack critical thinking skills and cognitive reasoning of an adult.

That means Bush allows thousands of substandard, uneducated Mexican truck drivers on America’s highways at 70 milers per hour carrying 40,000 pounds of freight. It means that every accident they cause will leave American families as collateral damage.

You can expect the following:

Bush allows substandard, uninspected 18 wheeler trucks on America’s highways driven by drivers who read and write in Spanish at a 6th grade level, but allows them to give a safety check of their trucks from a Third World perspective. That’s like giving your 6th grader the keys to the car and tell him to be careful as he drives through downtown Denver at rush hour.
Bush allows thousands of Mexican drivers who have never seen a snow storm or driven in our insane traffic. That’s like giving your 6th grader the keys to your car and have him learn how to drive in a snow storm in downtown Chicago.
How about Mexican drivers delivering tons of drugs into our country in false bottomed or walled trailers?
How about Mexican truck drivers delivering even more illegal aliens?
Mexicans possess an unusual propensity for drinking. How many of you want to drive on the same road as a hung over or drunk Mexican truck driver?
How about terrorists paying Mexican drivers to carry WMD into the USA?
As soon as Mexican drivers establish themselves, American trucking companies will start hiring them for half or even a third of American wages. The reasoning will be, “Mexican truckers drive cheaper.”

Soon, Bush will say, “Mexican truckers do the jobs that Americans won’t do.”

Somewhere in the middle of this little shindig Bush created, American truckers will strike back. Their anger will seethe below the surface as they drive down the Interstate. They’ll see Mexicans at their truck stops. They hear them speaking another language. They’ll see Mexican flags in Mexican trucks. They’ll see baseball caps that read, “Your New America.”

First you’ll hear of an incident where an American trucker cut the air lines or deflated the tires on a Mexican truck. Then, you’ll hear of huge pileup with a Mexican truck. Later, you’ll hear about American truckers playing cowboy football with their leather boots with Mexican drivers used for the pigskin. Following that, you’ll hear about riots in the truck stops with American truckers busting Mexican heads.

It’s not too much for illegal aliens taking away hotel jobs from American workers, landscapers, drywallers, painters and fast food workers. It’s yet another thing to take jobs away from American truckers. Four million truckers’ families depend on a living wage that will be taken away by Mexican drivers. American truckers are big, smart, savvy and protect their own. They’re not going to take kindly of Mexican truck drivers horning in on their work.

Bush made huge mistakes; 9/11, WMD, Iraq, open borders, total failure with Katrina, ‘the surge,’ federal debt, outsourcing our jobs, homeless, America’s schools, hospitals overwhelmed, prisons overloaded with illegals, American deaths from drunken illegals and much worse.

But giving Mexican trucker drivers jobs over our American truckers will prove a national disaster. It proves to me that Bush doesn’t understand nor does he care about American workers and he most certainly doesn’t care about American truckers. That’s a big ten four!
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What you can do for a better future for your country:

A republican form of government is not a spectator sport. It means you must jump in, roll up you sleeves and take personal and collective action. Of course, you could let a dictator take over and do everything for you, but that path would give you Cuba, China, North Korea and other unsavory examples.

To stop Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid from giving an amnesty, take action. Call for a full 10 year moratorium.

CALL NANCY PELOSI
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EMAIL NANCY PELOSI
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Senator Harry Reid
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George Bush
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We must 'sour the milk.’ Bring out your points in the call:

1, America cannot support another 100 million people added to our country in 34 years, i.e., water crisis, resource depletion, air pollution, gridlock, loss of quality of life, etc.
2, America cannot support lawbreakers being given citizenship.
3, America must maintain our English language.
4, America wants only legal immigrants who play by the rules and speak English.
5, America's working poor deserve a chance at jobs taken by illegals
6, America already has too many people and I support a 10 year moratorium on all immigration.
7, Americans must maintain our schools for our children.
8, We can no longer tolerate 350,000 birthright citizens (anchor babies) annually that subtract from our own citizens.
9, Attrition through enforcement by stopping their ability to wire money home, obtain rental housing and jobs.
10, An amnesty failed in 1986, and it will only be worse today. We're being displaced out of our jobs and out of our own country. Call with relentless and never-give-up passion.

To stop illegal aliens in your community, you may follow the course of action by Mayor Louis Barletta of Hazelton, PA. He offers a bomb proof ordinance that takes business licenses away from those who hire illegals. He legally halts landlords from renting to illegals. Without work and without housing, illegals cannot stay in your community. Check out his web site for instructions: SmallTownDefenders.com

Visit D.A. King at the www.thedustininmansociety.org to see how Georgia created the best laws to stop illegals at the state level.

Please check out William Gheen at www.alipac.us. He’s a mover and shaker. He will direct you to specific actions that make you more powerful and impactful.

To stop this invasion locally and nationally: join www.numbersusa.com for free and you can join www.fairus.org and www.thesocialcontract.com

Wooldridge presents a 45 minute program to colleges, high schools, civic clubs, church groups and political clubs across America titled: “COMING POPULATION CRISIS IN AMERICA: WHAT YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT.” Go to his website for further information on booking the program. www.frostywooldridge.com

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Toothless Dawg,Feb 26 2007
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Perhaps our politicians stand to make millions, if not billions, from this illegal trade

TD, I'm afraid it is not so much the politician as it is the international power behind the throne of BIG business. Money is their god and we are grist for the mill. The politicians on the other hand are being played like pawns on a chess board. This stuff we are seeing coming about has been in the works long before even Clinton sat in DC. I think the occupant of the oval office pretty much has no choice except in his manor of getting it done. Sorry to say it was slipped in while we were looking the other way. Lots of red herrings being tossed about to capture our attention. I am reading a book, "America's Last Stand", by Douglas MacKinnon. Scary read. But maybe prophetic.

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I think you got it Sandy Lee
This NAU the EU and all future melting of all nations together is being orchastrated by the heads of Financial institutions that are for a Globalist economy which will lead to a one world government ( just like the Bible predicts) The politicians are simply puppets and being blackmailed and conned by the The world financial institutions.
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I just posted this article over at CD forum, and wanted those from the mountain that doesn't go there to read this too. We can win, if we all stick together!

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OPERATION SAVE U.S.







By Charlotte Iserbyt


March 7, 2007

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“The North American ‘Soviet’ Union” article generated many emails requesting information on what Americans can do to stop our nation’s unconstitutional “border-dropping” merger into the North American ‘Soviet’ Union.

This article recommends that all Americans who cherish their Constitutional form of government and care about their children’s and grandchildren’s futures contact the following important conservative political action groups with the request they immediately have their members start lobbying (telephoning) the Congress with the demand that hearings (open to the public) be held immediately on the constitutionality of the North American Union (NAU), and that no further government or private action be taken to implement the NAU until such hearings have been properly held, followed up by a vote by both Houses of Congress, the results of which would be published in the Congressional Record and hopefully by the major media.

They should also, of course, telephone their own elected officials to request the same action. And don’t forget that there is bi-partisan opposition to the NAU, so don’t limit your calls to Republicans. Congressional switchboard numbers are: 202-224-3121 and 225-3121.

WHY WE CAN WIN:

This writer recalls the following highly successful lobbying effort carried out several years ago by Michael Farris’s Home School Legal Defense Association (HSLDA).

HSLDA contacted its many thousands of members requesting they contact their congressmen and senators and ask them to vote “no” on a bill which would have severely and negatively affected home schoolers. HSLDA’s request of its members resulted in a virtual shutdown of the Congressional telephone switchboard. Of importance, is that the Congress, as a result of this massive lobbying, voted down the controversial legislation. I believe that the only time Congress received that many calls was during the vote on giving away the Panama Canal. We almost won that one; lost by, I believe, one vote.

The reason I feel “OPERATION SAVE U.S.” will work is if such action by only one group worked in the past, just imagine how well such a lobbying effort will work if most of the large conservative political action groups contact their members and ask them to lobby Congress to hold hearings and schedule a vote on the NAU?

The following well-known conservative action groups should be contacted with a request they initiate an immediate MASSIVE nationwide lobbying effort…emails to all their members requesting they call their members of Congress to request the immediate scheduling of hearings on the North American Union and a vote by the Congress before any further public or private negotiations take place.

It’s hard to believe the giving away of our country to an unconstitutional socialist/soviet regional system, is not as or more important than other legislation for which hearings are scheduled on a daily basis!!!!!!! For example, are the subjects of the following hearings scheduled for tomorrow, March 7, as or more important than would be a hearing on the constitutionality of the North American Union?

AGRICULTURE

Conservation, Credit, Rural Development & Research Subc. Hrng. on financing structure of renewable energy resources. Thomas C. Dorr, Undersecretary for Rural Development, USDA; Andy Karsner, Assistant Secretary, Department of Energy; Kathleen McGinty, Secretary, Pennsylvania Department of Environmental Protection; John Denniston, Partner, Kleiner, Perkins, Caufield, and, Byers; Kevin Book, Senior Vice President, Friedman Billings, Ramsey, and Company Inc. 1302 LHOB.

And, although I am pleased that the utterly shocking, despicable, and deplorable conditions at Walter Reed Army Hospital will receive an immediate hearing (see below), why is it that our unconstitutional regional merger is not considered important enough for a similar immediate hearing?

APPROPRIATIONS

Defense Subc. Hrng. on Walter Reed Army Hospital. Gen. Peter Schoomaker, Army Chief of Staff; Gen. Richard Cody, Army Vice Chief of Staff; Gen. Kevin C. Kiley, Army Surgeon General. 2359 RHOB.

Please, when you contact the conservative organizations, remind them that if the United States of America merges into a North American ‘Soviet’ Union, we will loose all our rights under the United States Constitution, (pro-life, gun ownership, home/property ownership, freedom of the press, speech, religion, assembly etc.) rights which those groups have, in the past, worked strongly to support and protect.

The following list is a short list and gives contact info so that the reader can immediately get to work:

Michael Farris, Home School Legal Defense Association, P.O. Box 3000, Purcellville, VA 20134-9000, info@hslda.org, 540-338-5800/2733 fax

Phyllis Schlafly, Eagle Forum, eagle@eagleforum.org Operations Center, P.O. Box 618, Alton, IL 62002, 618-462-5415/8909 fax.

American Patrol, 2160 East Fry Blvd., #426, Sierra Vista, AZ 85635, glenn@AmericanPatrol.com 520-803-7703/7730 fax.

Tom DeWeese, American Policy Center, 70 Main Street, Suite 34, Warrenton, VA 20186, apcmail@americanpolicy.org, 540-341-8911/8917 fax.

National Right to Life Committee, 512 10th Street, NW, Washington, DC 20004, NRLC@nrlc.org 202-626-8800.

Howard Phillips, Conservative Caucus, 450 Maple Avenue East, Vienna, VA 22180, webmaster@conservativeusa.org 703-938-9626.

National Rifle Association of America, 11250 Maples Mill Road, Fairfax, VA 22030

Citizens Committee for Right to Keep and Bear Arms, Chairman: Allan Gottlieb, 600 Pennsylvania Avenue, S.E. Suite 205, Washington, D.C. 20004

Federation for Immigration Reform, 1666 Conn. Avenue, N.W., #400, Washington, D.C. 20009, 202-328-7004 and 387-3447 fax.

Bernadine Smith, Second Amendment Committee, P.O. Box #1776, Hanford, CA 93232, liberty89@libertygunrights.com 559-584-5209/4084 fax.

Craig Parshall, Sr. Vice President, National Religious Broadcasters, 9510 Technology Drive, Manassas, VA 20110, info@nrb.org 703-330-7000/7100 fax

Edwin Feulner, The Heritage Foundation, 214 Massachusetts Avenue N.E., Washington, D.C. 20002, info@heritage.org, 202-546-4400/8328 fax

Council for National Policy, CNP Action, Inc., 10329 Democracy Lane, #A, Fairfax, VA 22030, 703-890-0120

James Dobson, Focus on the Family, Colorado Springs, CO 80995, 800-232-6459 or 719-531-5181.



I hope readers of this article will also contact groups not mentioned above, such as Beverly LeHaye’s Concerned Women of America, the American Legion, Veterans of Foreign Wars, The John Birch Society, pro-academic education groups, anti-immigration groups, etc.

Please make multiple copies of the alert which you can carry with you at all times for distribution at church, supermarket, club meetings. Also, include parts of it in Letters to the Editor, bills, greeting cards, etc. Carry copies of this alert in your pocket or purse at all times and pass them out!



“OPERATION SAVE U.S.” will be kept as simple as possible, with no Board of Directors, fund-raising, conferences, etc. Our effort can be accomplished thanks to technology and WE CAN AND WILL SUCCEED. Please realize that I am a one-person office and cannot respond to all emails, as much as I may wish to do so. “OPERATION SAVE U.S.” may turn into a mammoth lobbying effort, so forgive me if it is not handled as if it were coming out of a fully-staffed and funded office.

Be sure to refer at all times to this effort as “OPERATION SAVE U.S.”

Good luck and may God bless our efforts!

Charlotte Thomson Iserbyt

P.S. For those who wish a historical timeline on the NAU please go to americandeception.com and click on “The Emerging North American Union” by Deborah Niwa.

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Charlotte Iserbyt is the consummate whistleblower! Iserbyt served as Senior Policy Advisor in the Office of Educational Research and Improvement (OERI), U.S. Department of Education, during the first Reagan Administration, where she first blew the whistle on a major technology initiative which would control curriculum in America's classrooms. Iserbyt is a former school board director in Camden, Maine and was co-founder and research analyst of Guardians of Education for Maine (GEM) from 1978 to 2000. She has also served in the American Red Cross on Guam and Japan during the Korean War, and in the United States Foreign Service in Belgium and in the Republic of South Africa.

Iserbyt is a speaker and writer, best known for her 1985 booklet Back to Basics Reform or OBE: Skinnerian International Curriculum and her 1989 pamphlet Soviets in the Classroom: America's Latest Education Fad which covered the details of the U.S.-Soviet and Carnegie-Soviet Education Agreements which remain in effect to this day. She is a freelance writer and has had articles published in Human Events, The Washington Times, The Bangor Daily News, and included in the record of Congressional hearings.

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And everybody ridiculed and Banned poor ole "Lib Or Die" !! She wasn't so far off base after all Folks! Was She??

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I didn't ridicule her, I know she went to the extreme on a lot of things, but this was something I agreed with her on. Maybe some of you think I'm whacko on this issue too, but I'd rather be safe than sorry on this.

I was trying to remember exactly what she was banned for. Did it have something to do with blaspheming God?

Can anybody remind me of what it was that got her banned? :huh:

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Wanda,

Thanks for posting that article. Lot's of good info in there.

I'm encouraged that people are starting to wake-up on this issue and doing something about it.

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Good info Wanda
I have already contacted my two Senators, Colburn and Inhofe and sent e-mails out the wazoo. I join in encouraging others to do the same also we should find action groups and finance and support them. I am a member of the NRA and Minuteman Civil Defense Corps . The NRA is a staunch supporter of American Sovernty and the Minitemen are for maintaining the borders and stopping the illegal invasion. We all have allot to lose if this back-door effort to join the United States to Mexico and Canada as one nation is allowed to procede and it will if everybody remains complacent and in denial,

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AMERICANS ON GLOBALIZATION:
A Study of US Public Attitudes
March 28, 2000


FINDINGS

Globalization in General

1 Overall, Americans see globalization as somewhat more positive than negative and appear to be growing more familiar with the concept and more positive about it. A large majority favors moving with the process of globalization, and only a small minority favors resisting it. Americans view globalization as a process of the world becoming increasingly interconnected. It is seen not only as an economic process, but also as one in which values are becoming more oriented to a global context and international institutions are playing a more central role.

Overall, it appears Americans view globalization as having a mixture of positive and negative elements, with the positive elements just moderately outweighing the negative ones. Asked in the current PIPA poll to rate globalization using a scale with zero being completely negative, ten being completely positive and five being equally positive and negative, the average response was 6.04. A modest majority of 53% rated it above 5, while only 15% rated it below 5. Thirty percent rated it equally positive and negative.

This small majority of positive views reflects some improvement in attitudes about globalization from polls taken in the early 1990s. In 1993, a Market Strategies poll conducted for the Americans Talk Issues Foundation (ATIF) poll found that 41 percent believed globalization to be positive, unchanged from a Market Strategies poll in 1991. Just 14 and 9 percent, respectively, thought globalization to be negative, roughly the same level as today.

Americans also are becoming more familiar with the concept of globalization. In both ATIF polls, more than four in ten said they were not familiar enough with the idea to say how they felt about it or expressed no opinion. In the current PIPA poll, only 29% said they were not familiar with the concept.

Perhaps most significant, in the PIPA poll a strong majority of 61% thought the US government should either "actively promote" globalization (28%) or "allow it to continue" (33%). Only 26% favored trying to "slow it down," and just 9% favored trying to "stop or reverse it."

In the focus groups, there was a general consensus that the US had little choice but to embrace globalization. As one man in the Baltimore focus group said, "[We] can't stop it. If you stop it, if you try and withdraw from it, try and put up borders, try and hide from it, it's going to continue without you. Either you want to be in it and be on top of it or it'll become bigger than you are."

In the PIPA poll, those who wanted to stop or reverse globalization were asked whether they thought the government could do so. A plurality (49%) said it was not possible.

Early in the questionnaire, respondents were asked if they had heard the term "globalization." Seventy percent said they had. Respondents were asked to say what the word meant to them. In various ways, virtually all responses described globalization as a growing interconnectedness of the world. As one respondent said, "It means we've become a more global society, economically and politically, so decisions being made here affect other areas, and other governments' decisions affect us." Said another, "Whatever happens in one country affects all countries." People made similar connections in the focus groups. In Baltimore, one man called it "a big merging of everything & a single culture, a big openness; the Internet & instant communication."

The dimensions of this interconnectedness varied. Most commonly cited was the economic dimension. One poll respondent said, "It means we trade with everybody and everybody trades with us." Another said, "It means that in business everybody all over the world is connected monetarily."

However, this does not mean globalization was seen only, or even primarily, as an economic process. A bit more than half of survey respondents did not mention the economic dimension at all. A substantial number spoke in terms of values and norms. As one respondent said, globalization is "looking at things in terms of the world instead of a single country," while another said it is "all countries united, working for a better world." Others talked in terms of international institutions, for example, defining globalization as "the United Nations and their [sic] influence." In the Battle Creek focus group, one woman said she believed globalization meant "respect for others, not necessarily for changing them but for respecting them where they are & I think that somehow we're all one."

Even though most views of globalization were positive on balance, the focus groups did bring to light some concerns about the increasing interconnectedness of the world. Naturally there was concern about the threats to American jobs that come with the growth of international trade. In addition, some mentioned the faster spread of diseases, such as AIDS, while others brought up the possibility that outsiders may gain too much power in the US or that countries will lose their individual identities. Some participants bristled at the notion of global government. As one man in Battle Creek said, "Globalization as trade is good. Globalization as government is bad." (Source http://www.pipa.org/)

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I didn't ridicule her, I know she went to the extreme on a lot of things, but this was something I agreed with her on. Maybe some of you think I'm whacko on this issue too, but I'd rather be safe than sorry on this.

I was trying to remember exactly what she was banned for. Did it have something to do with blaspheming God?

Can anybody remind me of what it was that got her banned? :huh:

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What got her kicked off was that she quoted President George W. Bush and forgot to insert a couple of asterisks. What he said was, "The Constitution is just a g.d. piece of paper". She wanted to get across to us what his attitude is towards our Constitution and how he is undermining it by his actions. She gets frustrated because most of us are like the frog in the boiling water......it started out cold and the heat was gradually turned up so we woudn't get alarmed and jump out. Now its frogs legs for supper guys.

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Thanks for the reminder Sandylee. I knew it had something to do with blashpeming. Did President Bush really say that?

Wow, frog legs for sure..... :sick:
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Thanks for the reminder Sandylee. I knew it had something to do with blashpeming. Did President Bush really say that?

Wow, frog legs for sure..... :sick:

I remember reading it on line but can't remember where right now. If I do and can find it again I will post it.
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I just read this in this morning's Patriot and thought it might fit here.

MEXICAN TRUCKERS SET TO CROSS THE BORDER

In 60 days, the Bush administration is set to launch a pilot program to let
Mexican trucks and drivers enter the U.S. unfettered. Mexican trucks are
already allowed 35 miles within U.S. borders; at that point their cargo
must be transferred to a U.S.-licensed truck and driver. For years this
practice has raised the costs of bringing imported goods to market---a price
consumers pay. Under the North American Free Trade Agreement (which, unlike a
certain climate treaty, was actually ratified by Congress), the U.S. agreed
to permit free cross-border trucking by 2000. It is now 2007---past time
for the U.S. to live up to its commitments or, alternatively, revise its
status under NAFTA. It's as simple as the rule of law---but opposition to
the program is strong and growing.

The Teamsters Union and pro-union Democrats are up in arms over the
so-called dangers posed by Mexican trucks and Mexican drivers on American
roads, despite the fact that Mexican trucking accidents are statistically
comparable (and actually a little less) than accidents involving U.S. trucks
and drivers. Add to this a few anti-immigration Republicans who, despite
the fact that these drivers would be here legally, oppose the program on
security and immigration-related grounds.

Whether they know it or not, these security-minded opponents of the program
are close to the mark. However, the security issue isn't simply container
traffic from Mexico, but container traffic period. Though comprehensive
container screening has proven infeasible, it is fortunate that the same
test trials underway to improve container security in U.S. ports should be
more or less applicable to cross-border, land-based container traffic, too.

At The Patriot, we realize there are unsafe Mexican trucks and
drivers. However, we think liberals should be proud that we're satisfying John
Kerry's "global test" by complying with our real-world treaty commitments. We
stand by this position. After all, these trucks will permit Wal-Mart to cut
costs even more---thereby permitting even more Americans to escape poverty
and become free-market conservative.

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So nevermind the fact that these containers are a huge security risk, and our U.S. truckers, who are CITIZENS are getting cut out of the picture, they also want us to believe the price of merchandise will go down! I guess they see "Sucker" written on our heads in giant letters!

Even if the price was to go down, that doens't justify the risk to our lives, or the loss of income to our CITIZENS!!!

HELLOOOOOOOO....IS ANYBODY OUT THERE????

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Here is another article out today atWorld Net Daily:

http://www.wnd.com:80/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54639

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North American Union: Fact or fiction?

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Posted: March 10, 2007
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Reaction to reports about a possible North American Union have been robust, to say the least.

Reaction from a few conservative pundits is way beyond robust, nearing the ridiculous. Popular radio talk-show host, Michael Medved, describes the journalists reporting on the possible North American Union as '' bastards and creeps and jug-heads and drunks and reprobates.''

John Hawkins, a blogger at Right Wing News says claims about a North American Union are ''... not true at all.'' He then explains why he thinks the claims are false.

People who are unfamiliar with the Security and Prosperity Partnership, or the North America Free Trade Agreement, or the Trans-Texas Corridor, or the European Union could easily believe the very superficial analysis of these two, and other pundits who have ridiculed the formation of what could easily become a North American Union.

About the only thing that is correct in the reaction of either of these two pundits is the fact that no one is admitting officially that a North American Union is under construction.

What is quite publicly under construction is a ''North American Community,'' with the express goal of deeper ''integration'' of the economies and culture of the United States, Canada and Mexico. This North American Community is the brainchild of Dr. Robert Pastor, who, as co-chair of a special task force of the Council on Foreign Relations, produced a report entitled ''Building a North American Community.'' This report is essentially a regurgitation of Pastor's earlier book: ''Toward a North American Community.''

Among other goals, Pastor wants the three countries to:


Adopt a common external tariff.

Adopt a North American Approach to Regulation

Establish a common security perimeter by 2010.

Establish a North American investment fund

Establish a permanent tribunal for North American dispute resolution.

Hold an annual North American Summit meeting

Establish minister-led working groups

Create a North American Advisory Council

Create a North American Inter-Parliamentary Group.
Pastor considers NAFTA to be '' ... the first draft of an economic constitution for North America,'' because it sets up the legal mechanism for achieving all his goals without bothering Congress.

The president apparently agrees with these goals, because he launched the Security and Prosperity Partnership in 2005, which consists of nearly 20 ''minister-led'' working groups, with appointed bureaucrats from each of the three countries, all working toward deeper ''integration'' through harmonization of procedures, rules and regulations – all of which is happening without bothering Congress.

While this is happening, Pastor, the Council on Foreign Relations and the Security and Prosperity Partnership all say they ''in no way, shape or form'' are working toward a North American Union. What they are working toward is Pastor's North American Community.

If it looks like a skunk, and smells like a skunk, it's probably a skunk – regardless of what you call it.

Is it just a coincidence that what is now the European Union began its life in 1957 as a customs union called the European Economic Community. A customs union is a free trade area with a common external tariff. The participant countries set up common external trade policies.

Do Robert Pastor's ideas point to a new and better direction, or are his ideas an echo of a treacherous past that robbed European nations of their independence, their currency and their sovereignty?

By following the European Union timeline, it is easy to see how the European ''Community'' evolved into a ''Common Market,'' and evolved its own currency, and finally established its own Parliament.

Look again at Pastor's goals. Are they not perfectly aligned with the history of the European Union? Again, it may be just a coincidence that the European Union was nurtured from the beginning by the Royal Institute for International Affairs. This non-government organization was created in 1920, by the same people who created its sister organization, the Council on Foreign Relations, in 1921.

Perhaps the North American Union is best described as a work in progress, having established a ''Common Market'' through NAFTA and CAFTA, and now approaching the ''Community'' stage through the Security and Prosperity Partnership. If the bureaucrats are not stopped by Congress, we will see, first, a ''North American Inter-Parliamentary Group,'' which is only a step away from a North American Parliament.

People, including pundits, who fail to see this work in progress could learn much from this NAU presentation. The NAU is moving quickly and quietly toward the same kind of political reality that now grips Europe. Only a concerned and enlightened constituency can compel elected officials to stop this erosion of America's sovereignty.

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Just some more news on the NAU and evidense that the Super Corridor is going forward

This is a WorldNetDaily printer-friendly version of the article which follows.
To view this item online, visit http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article....RTICLE_ID=54742


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THE NEW WORLD DISORDER
Lawmaker battles Trans-Texas Corridor
Project tied to 'North American Union' threatens property rights

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Citing concern for personal property rights, a Texas lawmaker has filed legislation to delay construction of the controversial Trans-Texas Corridor, a proposed network of privately funded, limited-access toll roads seen by some critics as part of an incremental merger of the U.S., Canada and Mexico.

Republican Rep. Rick Hardcastle said the "critical point for me is when the state disregards the personal property rights of hard-working Texans," the Gainesville Daily Register in Texas reported

Hardcastle, whose district has little support for the project, filed House Bill 3831 in the Texas House of Representatives, which seeks to halt the project until specific improvements on Highway 35 are made. He also is co-author of House Bill 2772, a statewide two-year moratorium on toll road development.

The latter bill would stop all toll projects while legislators and government officials re-examine contracts and plans. The two bills are awaiting committee referral.

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An activist opposing the project, Gainesville obstetrician Amy Klein, applauded the new legislation as an example of citizen representation in action, the Daily Register reported.

"I think that these legislators are finally listening to their constituents across the state of Texas," Klein told the paper.

Klein pointed to a proverb frequently quoted by David Stall, founder of the anti-Corridor group CorridorWatch: "You eat an elephant one bite at a time."

"I think that we're slowly devouring this elephant," Klein said.



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They want to call it a "Conspiracy Theory" but it's pretty easy to find info to back up the claims that unfortuanately this union is in the works.

Michael Medved loses cool over North American Union

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Another link to try to fix the situaton.

http://www.unity08.com/dd/main
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Some of ya'll remember back on another website when some of us folks did not want to talk with LiboD about the NAU.

It wasn't because I didn't think there was something to it, but her attitude on many other subjects. I still think she was a fruitcake.

The NAU is real and it is time for real discussions on it.

One thing that keeps coming to my mind is the EU/European Union and the NAU/North American Union, in part I mean a joint venture in battling the powers joined against us by the EU.

The problems arise when some in America want to give up some of our sovereignty to either/or both Canada and/or the re-conquistas/Mexico.

This is a good topic and I appreciate reading what ya'll have posted and look forward to reading more.

Thanks and God preserve America,

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Thanks Duke, does that mean I have a better attitude than LiBod.... :lol:

Thanks for the link Herb, I'll check it out.

This is a link that shows that the plan to have a Mexican Customs Agency operate on U.S. soil, right in the middle of our country is happening.


Kansas City Smart Port- Mexican Customs

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Legislation #: 060343 Introduction Date: none
Type: Resolution Effective Date: none
Sponsor: MAYOR BARNES
Title: Declaring the name of the inland Mexican customs facility to be built in the West Bottoms area to be the Kansas City Customs Port.

Legislation History
Date Minutes Description
3/24/2006 Filed by the Clerk's office
3/23/2006 Referred to International Committee
3/30/2006 Hold On Agenda (4/27/2006)
5/18/2006 Immediate Adoption
5/18/2006 Adopted

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RESOLUTION NO. 060343

Declaring the name of the inland Mexican customs facility to be built in the West Bottoms area to be the Kansas City Customs Port.

WHEREAS, the Greater Kansas City Chamber of Commerce, the Mid-America Regional Council and the Kansas City Area Development Council created Kansas City SmartPort, Inc. (Smartport) to explore ways in which Kansas City can position itself as an international trade processing center with the capability of serving as an inland port; and

WHEREAS, Kansas City in conjunction with SmartPort, promoted Kansas City as a strategic hub for trade between the U.S. and Mexico, has secured the support of both Mexican and U.S. Customs officials for the construction of a customs facility in Kansas City to be built on a City-owned site on the east side of Liberty Street between 14th and 15th Streets; NOW, THEREFORE,

BE IT RESOLVED BY THE COUNCIL OF KANSAS CITY:

Section 1. That the inland Mexican customs facility to be constructed on the Liberty Site is hereby named the Kansas City Customs Port.

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