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| Condor | Jan 28 2007, 12:08 AM Post #1 |
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Can we get more people to send emails than the rich, American princes and queens can pay for busses to transport to Washington? Send emails to everyone named in this article. Find them on Goggle and make every email individual. Post on every forum that you visit and send via email to everyone in your address book. The sickness: Crowds on Both Coasts Protest Iraq War By CALVIN WOODWARD and LARRY MARGASAK, Associated Press Writers 1 hour ago WASHINGTON - Convinced this is their moment, tens of thousands marched Saturday in an anti-war demonstration linking military families, ordinary people and an icon of the Vietnam protest movement in a spirited call to get out of Iraq. Celebrities, a half-dozen lawmakers and protesters from distant states rallied in the capital under a sunny sky, seizing an opportunity to press their cause with a Congress restive on the war and a country that has turned against the conflict. Marching with them was Jane Fonda, in what she said was her first anti-war demonstration in 34 years. "Silence is no longer an option," Fonda said to cheers from the stage on the National Mall. The actress once derided as "Hanoi Jane" by conservatives for her stance on Vietnam said she had held back from activism so as not to be a distraction for the Iraq anti-war movement, but needed to speak out now. The rally on the Mall unfolded peacefully, although about 300 protesters tried to rush the Capitol, running up the grassy lawn to the front of the building. Police on motorcycles tried to stop them, scuffling with some and barricading entrances. Protesters chanted "Our Congress" as their numbers grew and police faced off against them. Demonstrators later joined the masses marching from the Mall, around Capitol Hill and back. About 50 demonstrators blocked a street near the Capitol for about 30 minutes, but they were dispersed without arrests. United for Peace and Justice, a coalition group sponsoring the protest, had hoped 100,000 would come. They claimed even more afterward, but police, who no longer give official estimates, said privately the crowd was smaller than 100,000. In California, smaller rallies were held in San Francisco, Los Angeles and Sacramento. At the rally, 12-year-old Moriah Arnold stood on her toes to reach the microphone and tell the crowd: "Now we know our leaders either lied to us or hid the truth. Because of our actions, the rest of the world sees us as a bully and a liar." The sixth-grader from Harvard, Mass., organized a petition drive at her school against the war that has killed more than 3,000 U.S. service-members, including seven whose deaths were reported Saturday. More Hollywood celebrities showed up at the demonstration than buttoned-down Washington typically sees in a month. Actor Sean Penn said lawmakers will pay a price in the 2008 elections if they do not take firmer action than to pass a nonbinding resolution against the war, the course Congress is now taking. "If they don't stand up and make a resolution as binding as the death toll, we're not going to be behind those politicians," he said. Actors Susan Sarandon and Tim Robbins also spoke. Fonda was a lightning rod in the Vietnam era for her outspoken opposition to that war and her advocacy from Hanoi at the height of that conflict. Sensitive to the old wounds, she made it a point to thank the active-duty service-members, veterans and Gold Star mothers who attended the rally. She drew parallels to the Vietnam War, citing "blindness to realities on the ground, hubris ... thoughtlessness in our approach to rebuilding a country we've destroyed." But she noted that this time, veterans, soldiers and their families increasingly and vocally are against the Iraq war. The House Judiciary Committee chairman, Rep. John Conyers, threatened to use congressional spending power to try to stop the war. "George Bush has a habit of firing military leaders who tell him the Iraq war is failing," he said, looking out at the masses. "He can't fire you." Referring to Congress, the Michigan Democrat added: "He can't fire us. "The founders of our country gave our Congress the power of the purse because they envisioned a scenario exactly like we find ourselves in today. Not only is it in our power, it is our obligation to stop Bush." White House spokesman Trey Bohn responded that Conyers "needs to learn the difference between fact and fable, between a soundbite and a slur." He said Conyers' "assertion that the president fires generals with whom he disagrees is flat wrong." On the stage rested a coffin covered with a U.S. flag and a pair of military boots, symbolizing American war dead. On the Mall stood a large bin filled with tags bearing the names of Iraqis who have died. A small contingent of active-duty service members attended the rally, wearing civilian clothes because military rules forbid them from protesting in uniform. Air Force Staff Sgt. Tassi McKee, 26, an intelligence specialist at Fort Meade, Md., said she joined the Air Force because of patriotism, travel and money for college. "After we went to Iraq, I began to see through the lies," she said. In the crowd, signs recalled the November elections that defeated the Republican congressional majority in part because of President Bush's Iraq policy. "I voted for peace," one said. "I've just gotten tired of seeing widows, tired of seeing dead Marines," said Vincent DiMezza, 32, wearing a dress Marine uniform from his years as a sergeant. A Marine aircraft mechanic from 1997 to 2002, he did not serve in Iraq or Afghanistan. About 40 people staged a counter-protest, including Army Cpl. Joshua Sparling, 25, who lost his leg to a bomb in Iraq. He said the anti-war protesters, especially those who are veterans or who are on active duty, "need to remember the sacrifice we have made and what our fallen comrades would say if they were alive." Bush reaffirmed his commitment to his planned troop increase in a phone conversation Saturday with Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki. The president was in Washington for the weekend. He is often is out of town during big protest days. "He understands that Americans want to see a conclusion to the war in Iraq and the new strategy is designed to do just that," said Gordon Johndroe, a spokesman for the National Security Council. Protest organizers said the crowd included people who came on 300 buses from 40 states.Speaker list: Speakers, in alphabetical order Mayor Rocky Anderson, Salt Lake City, UT Moriah Arnold, 12-year-old sixth grader from Harvard, MA Carlos Arredondo, Gold Star Families for Peace Medea Benjamin, founder of CodePink: Women for Peace Leslie Cagan, National Coordinator, United for Peace and Justice Representative John Conyers (D-MI) Eve Ensler, playwright Jane Fonda, actress/author Kim Gandy, President of the National Organization for Women Danny Glover, actor/activist Reverend Graylan Hagler, Plymouth Congregational Church, Washington, DC Jonathon Hutto, active-duty member of the U.S. Navy Reverend Jesse Jackson, RainbowPUSH Coalition Representative Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) Rabbi Michael Lerner, Tikkun Magazine Kevin Martin, Executive Director, Peace Action Garett Reppenhagen, Iraq Veterans Against the War Tim Robbins, actor/activist Susan Sarandon, actor/activist Eleanor Smeal, Feminist Majority Bob Watada, father of Lt. Ehren Watada, first officer to refuse deployment to Iraq Representative Maxine Waters (D-CA) Representative Lynn Woolsey (D-CA) Ann Wright, retired Army Colonel, former State Dept. diplomat |
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| Condor | Jan 28 2007, 01:14 AM Post #2 |
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Lets make our presence known. This site has numerous email addresses that are useful: National Media email addresses It is easy to build a distribution list in your email service. With that, you can hit several lib sympathizers at one time.Here are some of the email addresses I have been able to find: CALVIN WOODWARD cwoodward@ap.org LARRY MARGASAK lmargasak@ap.org Lynn Woolsey http://woolsey.house.gov/contactemailform.asp Jane Fonda morgaine@the-goddess.org <morgaine@the-goddess.org> John Kerry http://kerry.senate.gov/v3/contact/email.cfm Sean Penn Sean.Penn20061@gmail.com union@newsmediaguild.org AP National Desk: 212-621-1600 The National Editor's name is Mark Kennedy These are officers in the News Media Guild that represents a lot of liberal writers: mjwaggon@earthlink.net russelhall@msn.com jjorden@texoma.net union@melendy.us ASayre3456@aol.com rsneyd@sover.net Following are just some misc liberal orgs: opinion@berkeleydailyplanet.com karlheinz@earthlink.net union@newsmediaguild.org twinton@newsmediaguild.org http://www.democrats.com/peoplesemailnetwork/90 |
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| GRITS | Jan 28 2007, 02:03 AM Post #3 |
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The rats have lost their fear of man and are swarming in broad daylight. People like Conyers are brazenly giving aid and comfort to the enemy - he is committing treason by the standard definition of the Constitution. There is no statute of limitations for treason - when these people are no longer senators and representatives, and when our side has sufficient numbers again, we need to see to it that these people are tried for treason. That is the only thing that will drive swine like Fonda back into the dark place they usually reside in. This is the rally I spoke of some time back - these military members who spoke should be courtmartialed and dishonorably discharged. What the hell is law good for in the Age of the Jackass Party? This is lawlessness ruling the streets. I will let the presidential candidate I vote for know that if he doesn't start enforcing the laws I'll - There you have it; what can I do if a leader ignores what his supporters want - that is why the law has become an empty vessel and rats swarm without fear. They know they can pass any phony promise off and there is nothing we can do about it. Well - enforcing the treason laws might be a good place to start - and now is the time to begin the campaign for those trials when the time comes. CHINA MUST BE DESTROYED |
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| jaytalker | Jan 28 2007, 03:45 PM Post #4 |
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One thing you can count on with the peaceniks; a very short memory. 9-11 is either viewed as our fault or it did not happen. 9-11 was a conspiracy that was conspired by the secret right wing agencies of our government. 9-11 was personally orchastrated by GWB. This has a problem in it as GWB is portrayed by all leftists as a bumbling nin-com-poop who can't organized his speech well enough to put a birthday party together for his kids. This was changed to being led by VP Cheney or the sinister Rove. The Islamic terrorists who were behind 9-11 were forced into the Twin Towers attack by the Bush Administration and their "Hitleress" religious right wing policies that left Islam with no recourse. Of course these charges were put together to form the peace movement when the Afghan "war" was the latest "new toy" of choice to hurt the new Bush Administration that had stolen the 2000 elections. These charges did not take hold as the public was caught in the fever of revenge for 9-11 and the Afghan action was deemed not only right but nessessary. Although their use did fade away many times they are used as just one more "proof" example of the devious Bush Administration's tactics and motives. Many of them caught hold with "conspiracy leftist groups" who want revenge for power lost and still can be heard in and wrongly used in support of the anti-Iraq war. Then world events turned and another villian regained the world stage, Saddam. With spectacle of the smoldering Twin Towers and the first attack on American soil it was not the best time to be threatening the United States or going directly against edics of the world's body, the UN. This is where the "peacenik" movement becomes even more forgetful of the events and even those who clamoured as loadly as anyone in support of action. It was a time when future leaders of the "now" peacemovement scrambled to get their messages of leadership of how they would act. Their words are all there in speeches, on tape...where everyone can hear...if they wish to...Do you remember those speeches, those days? Can you jog your neighborhood peacenik's memory? This is a period were everyone was watching the goings on at the UN. Where a string of one resolution after another are presented and passed by the body and then speeches of defiance and threats came back from Saddam's Iraqi government. Months passed as the dance continued over and over in a seemingly endless rerun of events. Reports from the respected intel agencies from around the world with confirmation of existing WMD within Saddam's regime in Iraq. One has to add that those reports did not come only from U.S. (Bush) intel but from English, French, Germans and many others. But the peacemovement only puts fault at GWB's feet, it seems that all others ran and hid after the Coalition did not turn up the numbers in WMDs speculated in those intel reports as they swept through Iraq. Even the English intel report that GWB pulled information from in which he used in a State of the Union speech is used time and time again to prove that President Bush was the main perveyor of the missinformation, which turn later into the "lies" that took the U.S. into an "illegal war". Even though it was the British intel and even after it has been shown to be the actual truth, Bush is held up as the "liar" who should be impeached for the crime! If within the Becca Valley in Syria twenty years down the road of history, WMDs turn up... will Bush be vindicated or will these supposed "historians" find just one more way to discredit his tour by pointing out how he should have invaded Syria to find The Find of the Century. In bringing up the state of incompetence of the Bush Administration's intelligence agencies how would these peaceniks deal with the fact that it was Jeanie G., an undersecretary in the Clinton Administration who was handed the job of re-forming the intel departments to consist of "more boyscouts" than spy agencies and decided that personel of those agencies should not have shady dealings. Covert operatives, NO MORE! How was Jeanie G. rewarded after 9-11 proved her work had a disastorous affect as our intel agencies acted more like the Keystone Cops in preventing 9-11 rather than an intelligence agency...Jeanie G is appointed to the 9-11 Commision by her friends on the Democratic side! So let us look at what actually happened that took our military to Iraq. Saddam had WMDs, he used them on his own people! The WMD did exist or somebody should tell thousands of Kurds that they are not dead! Thou his actions, Saddam's not President Bush, intel agencies were convinced that Saddam had WMDs. Saddam's actions in hindering UN weapon inspectors and tossing them out were not action's of a man or regime that was innocent. The United States was realling from the 9-11 attack where 3,000 had been lost from a foreign based attack that used our commercial planes as WMD. The President was given the charge by the American People to prevent another WMD attack on our citizens. A country that had used WMD before was threatening with all actions pointing towrd using WMD again, Saddam and Iraq. Saddam had invaded one of Iraq's neighbors 10 years before and had not followed the directives that ended that previous Gulf War. Saddam's forces were firing on American and British jets that had been assigned to enforce a "no fly zone" in Iraq and by order of the UN. Knowing all of this and even more not listed here proves to me that this action by President Bush, Prime Minister Blair and the other leaders of the coalition of the willing, it is evident that the action was not only legal but was nessessary. Now many can bring up mistakes in the carring out of the objective as in any forceful action such as this there are unknowns but it was still a needed act. Remember here that GWB had said time and again he was against the "nation building" aspect that the Democrats favored using, but it this situation he found it the only way. Now he is left sitting "holding the bag" while all but a few use their faulty memories to rip at him. History will show whose right in this. Lets hope there will be free people around to write it. We now have a time in which to make our voices heard. Follow the others here and step up, it migh be the most important time in our history. jaytalker |
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