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Veterans; active duty also
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GRITS,Dec 29 2006
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All I did was get myself blown up - aint proud of it.  I screwed up and cost the American people tons of money keeping me alive. I don't deserve to own the uniform.
All I have to say.
Let these fellas that did it right have the floor.

GRITS, with me and others on here, that puts you in a special place with us. I don't care what it cost to keep you alive, you served our country and that's what's important. If you got injured doing that, then that places you above the rest. smiley-patriotic-flag-wave

Agreed ... thanks for your service, Grits

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Almtnman,Dec 29 2006
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GRITS,Dec 29 2006
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All I did was get myself blown up - aint proud of it.  I screwed up and cost the American people tons of money keeping me alive. I don't deserve to own the uniform.
All I have to say.
Let these fellas that did it right have the floor.

GRITS, with me and others on here, that puts you in a special place with us. I don't care what it cost to keep you alive, you served our country and that's what's important. If you got injured doing that, then that places you above the rest. smiley-patriotic-flag-wave

Grits, I'm with Almtnman. The cost was trivial compared to your sacrifice.
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The best Corps of them all is holding an SKS on this page.
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Here is a picture from over here!!

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Looks like that flash/hider RPG adaptor makes that bayonet kinda useless.
Chinese or ComBloc?

It's just a suppresser. The bayonet will work just fine :)

aaaah yes, I had 5 of the SKS set up just about the same way. Two of them I put the black plastic vent guards over the top. Had the 40 round mags ... It is ONE fun rifle to shoot. Mine were Chinese and in about the same condition the one you're holding. I was at a gunshow this past weekend and all they had was comblock rifles ... I wouldn't have paid .25 cents for one much less what they were asking.

I've got some Romanian AKs that are ace - good as any milled I ever saw. Can't say that about the Chin SKS I've seen.
Except for the sights that SKS is a fine weapon - but I'd go with a good old Ruger Mini for a basic rifle - just as crude but miles ahead. Longer sights, uses the monster little 5.56, detach mags - rock and roll!
But it is a heck of a fun gun that Sierra Kilo.
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GRITS,Dec 29 2006
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Except for the sights that SKS is a fine weapon - but I'd go with a good old Ruger Mini for a basic rifle - just as crude but miles ahead. Longer sights, uses the monster little 5.56, detach mags - rock and roll!
But it is a heck of a fun gun that Sierra Kilo.

I'd like to have one of the little Ruger mini's for myself as a home protction rifle, just haven't found one at a bargain yet.
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GRITS,Dec 29 2006
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greatwhiteelkhunter,Nov 24 2006
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Here is a picture from over here!!

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Looks like that flash/hider RPG adaptor makes that bayonet kinda useless.
Chinese or ComBloc?

It's just a suppresser. The bayonet will work just fine :)

aaaah yes, I had 5 of the SKS set up just about the same way. Two of them I put the black plastic vent guards over the top. Had the 40 round mags ... It is ONE fun rifle to shoot. Mine were Chinese and in about the same condition the one you're holding. I was at a gunshow this past weekend and all they had was comblock rifles ... I wouldn't have paid .25 cents for one much less what they were asking.

I've got some Romanian AKs that are ace - good as any milled I ever saw. Can't say that about the Chin SKS I've seen.
Except for the sights that SKS is a fine weapon - but I'd go with a good old Ruger Mini for a basic rifle - just as crude but miles ahead. Longer sights, uses the monster little 5.56, detach mags - rock and roll!
But it is a heck of a fun gun that Sierra Kilo.

So much fun that you can go through a case of ammo in 15 minutes :lol: :lol: :lol:

Back in the 90s one could buy an adapter to fit the SKS, I believe they called it 'hellfire' but I may be wrong. My mind gets clouded easily nowadays. This adapter would fit on the trigger and would apply return pressure so it was possible to shoot the SK as if it were auto ... wheeeee doggie, that thang could destroy a target and eat up some ammo.
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Except for the sights that SKS is a fine weapon - but I'd go with a good old Ruger Mini for a basic rifle - just as crude but miles ahead.  Longer sights, uses the monster little 5.56, detach mags - rock and roll!
But it is a heck of a fun gun that Sierra Kilo.

I'd like to have one of the little Ruger mini's for myself as a home protction rifle, just haven't found one at a bargain yet.

Mmmmmmmmmmmmm Remington 870 w/16.5" barrel ... I had 3 of these at one time and messed up a few years ago and sold and gave away my collection. Now I'm in the process of rebuilding. :hammerhead: :hammerhead: :hammerhead:
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GRITS,Dec 29 2006
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All I did was get myself blown up - aint proud of it. I screwed up and cost the American people tons of money keeping me alive. I don't deserve to own the uniform.
All I have to say.
Let these fellas that did it right have the floor.

Grits,

Don't let ANYONE cut down your service to this country! Including yourself! :D

Anyone that has served, and has given life or limb deserves MORE than what this country gives back. ONE HECK of allot more!

There is no price that can be paid for the sacrifices that you and all of our veterans have, and are, making.

They are truly brothers in Jesus Christ in giving their lives so that others may live.

I know many libs that would not agree with this - but noone ever said a lib had their head on straight to begin with.
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Except for the sights that SKS is a fine weapon - but I'd go with a good old Ruger Mini for a basic rifle - just as crude but miles ahead.  Longer sights, uses the monster little 5.56, detach mags - rock and roll!
But it is a heck of a fun gun that Sierra Kilo.

I'd like to have one of the little Ruger mini's for myself as a home protction rifle, just haven't found one at a bargain yet.

Two words-
Bushmaster, Shotgun News
three words-

get the receiver (FFL req) from Bushmaster, and a drop in upper from one of the outfits in Shotgun News. Instant AR15 - nothin protects the home better - shouldn't cost much more than a Mini. People want too much for them.

Get an FFL - it'll pay for itself in no time.
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GRITS,Dec 29 2006
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Except for the sights that SKS is a fine weapon - but I'd go with a good old Ruger Mini for a basic rifle - just as crude but miles ahead.  Longer sights, uses the monster little 5.56, detach mags - rock and roll!
But it is a heck of a fun gun that Sierra Kilo.

I'd like to have one of the little Ruger mini's for myself as a home protction rifle, just haven't found one at a bargain yet.

Two words-
Bushmaster, Shotgun News
three words-

get the receiver (FFL req) from Bushmaster, and a drop in upper from one of the outfits in Shotgun News. Instant AR15 - nothin protects the home better - shouldn't cost much more than a Mini. People want too much for them.

Get an FFL - it'll pay for itself in no time.

I had my FFL for several years and the aggravation from ATF began to get very annoying. One problem in their eyes was probably that I had my 'office' in my home. I understand they've gotten a lot tougher this after I allowed mine to lapse.

I agree about Shotgun News ... I used to read that thing cover to cover ...

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GRITS,Dec 29 2006
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Except for the sights that SKS is a fine weapon - but I'd go with a good old Ruger Mini for a basic rifle - just as crude but miles ahead.  Longer sights, uses the monster little 5.56, detach mags - rock and roll!
But it is a heck of a fun gun that Sierra Kilo.

I'd like to have one of the little Ruger mini's for myself as a home protction rifle, just haven't found one at a bargain yet.

Two words-
Bushmaster, Shotgun News
three words-

get the receiver (FFL req) from Bushmaster, and a drop in upper from one of the outfits in Shotgun News. Instant AR15 - nothin protects the home better - shouldn't cost much more than a Mini. People want too much for them.

Get an FFL - it'll pay for itself in no time.

I had my FFL for several years and the aggravation from ATF began to get very annoying. One problem in their eyes was probably that I had my 'office' in my home. I understand they've gotten a lot tougher this after I allowed mine to lapse.

I agree about Shotgun News ... I used to read that thing cover to cover ...

All depends on where dawg.
Some places BATF-k are major idiots, some just minor idiots.
Just keep your books clean and hold your nose when they come round.
Shotgun News is the way - all you need from a dealer is the receiver.
90% of the gun dealers I've known are worse idiots than BATF.
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Thanks for the kind words.

Some things just can't be explained with words. Wish I could have done more.
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GRITS,Dec 29 2006
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Here is a picture from over here!!

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Looks like that flash/hider RPG adaptor makes that bayonet kinda useless.
Chinese or ComBloc?

It's just a suppresser. The bayonet will work just fine :)

No way Elk - that little ring thing pointin down from the bayonet base is supposed to swing over the end of the muzzle and then lock back - that suppressor is way to long - might as well take that bayonet off.
Guess you could lock it at 90 degrees and use it for cuttin wheat.

Nope not that one!! It has a catch on the bayonet it's self just behind the blade that latches onto the last ring of the suppresser. I don't know if you can see it BUT it's there.
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GRITS,Dec 29 2006
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Yep - that's the Ranger cap Mtnman.

Grits I'm bring home about 12 of the bayonets your talking about that lock over the end of the barrel BUT I'm also bringing home about 5 of these kind as well.
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Is this the cap you are looking at? see 'K'

This is what it looks like except not in camo, but OD color. These caps were very hard to make, I guess due to the folds and how they were sewn down to the band. The material in this camo version looks like the same kind of material used in those old caps.

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You're talking about the Satine cover!! Yes I know what you're talking about.
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I'm going to make you guys sick but in the 6 months I have been here I have seen or hand my hands on about 25,000 captured weapons of all kinds!! Old new US foreign.....

Here are some pictures of some of the cool ones. Heck there is even a flame thrower!!!


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Yep - that's the Ranger cap Mtnman.

Grits I'm bring home about 12 of the bayonets your talking about that lock over the end of the barrel BUT I'm also bringing home about 5 of these kind as well.

I remember fellas on Oki walking around with cap tagged SKs - couldn't leave em unwatched so they had to carry them everywhere. Guys in chow line with SKs - no wonder the food was so good.
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Looks like a homemade broomhandle, Luger and Patchett - no wonder the boys that carried them are dead. AK sights on a Mauser - now I seen it all. Saturday night in Bagdad.
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Looks like a homemade broomhandle, Luger and Patchett - no wonder the boys that carried them are dead. AK sights on a Mauser - now I seen it all. Saturday night in Bagdad.

Man there were so many modifications to these things! I didn't get any pictures of the Dragonoffs we had!! MANY of them none with scopes BUT in mint condition!!
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Looks like a homemade broomhandle, Luger and Patchett - no wonder the boys that carried them are dead.  AK sights on a Mauser - now I seen it all.  Saturday night in Bagdad.

Man there were so many modifications to these things! I didn't get any pictures of the Dragonoffs we had!! MANY of them none with scopes BUT in mint condition!!

Those SKs with the one post front sight are the old ones - if theyre Rusky you want them - the Chicoms are junk. Make nice golf clubs.
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GWEH,

Hope you're getting near the bottom of the barrel on those weapons there.

From the looks ya might be - some of them weapons look older than the civil war.
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GWEH,

Hope you're getting near the bottom of the barrel on those weapons there.

From the looks ya might be - some of them weapons look older than the civil war.

Man these guys who took the weapons didn't apply any logic to the collection. They took old 1800 era black power rifles there were just junk! If it looked like a gun it was taken BUT your right some are extremely old.
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Is this the cap you are looking at? see 'K'

This is what it looks like except not in camo, but OD color. These caps were very hard to make, I guess due to the folds and how they were sewn down to the band. The material in this camo version looks like the same kind of material used in those old caps.

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You're talking about the Satine cover!! Yes I know what you're talking about.

that isn't sateen Elk - that's serge!

that's an OLD cap - serge was used for WWII utilities! you won't find many of them laying around uh uh
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I'm not a veteran - just a proud parent of one.

Here are a couple of photos from our soldier in Kosovo:

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I'll let you guess who this is posing in a photo-op with our solder? ;)

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Is this the cap you are looking at? see 'K'

This is what it looks like except not in camo, but OD color. These caps were very hard to make, I guess due to the folds and how they were sewn down to the band. The material in this camo version looks like the same kind of material used in those old caps.

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You're talking about the Satine cover!! Yes I know what you're talking about.

that isn't sateen Elk - that's serge!

that's an OLD cap - serge was used for WWII utilities! you won't find many of them laying around uh uh

Grits
I have seen many pictures AND the WWII uniform in many MC birthday ball pageant and they closely resemble the Satins of Vietnam era. This cap above was never part of our uniform. We did nave one like this in the early 80’s BUT it had an EGA in the center of the cap and it was much more square and precise lines then this cap. I still have a few of them in my closet!
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We wore the Campaign hat before the Big Shootemup - we switched to the "jarhat" during WWII. In 1939 we all looked like DI's.
Not only is that cover serge (two diagonals up, two down - needed my glasses to spot it) it is the WWII camo pattern that began with the Raiders and was adopted by the entire Corps.
I think what we're looking at is one of the first Jarhead covers Elk - a museum piece. History.
I was in the sateen Corps, but my winter greens were wool serge. In the 70s sateen went to ripstop and wool serge went to the current wool uniform.

That's what I was driving at.
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I'll let you guess who this is posing in a photo-op with our solder? ;)

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got it - but who's that bald guy next to you? that can't be your kid!

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I'll let you guess who this is posing in a photo-op with our solder?  ;)


got it - but who's that bald guy next to you? that can't be your kid!

My kid is the one in the uniform - I'll give you A HINT who the bald headed guy is:
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All I did was get myself blown up - aint proud of it. I screwed up and cost the American people tons of money keeping me alive. I don't deserve to own the uniform.
All I have to say.
Let these fellas that did it right have the floor.

You have the all the right in the world, don't ever think that you don't.

I spend my days picking up the pieces of other peoples lives, I can tell you this, it was only fate you were injured instead of someone else, that doesn't change one thing, but only proves how strong and valuable to others that you have got this far.
A lesser man would of given up.

And they do. Its far easier to die, than to live through what you have.




Sorry I have a weird SOH but......
I have never been blown up, but having been shot twice myself, I got to say being blown up must of hurt.
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I spend my days picking up the pieces of other peoples lives, I can tell you this, it was only fate you were injured instead of someone else, that doesn't change one thing, but only proves how strong and valuable to others that you have got this far.
A lesser man would of given up.

And they do. Its far easier to die, than to live through what you have.




Sorry I have a weird SOH but......
I have never been blown up, but having been shot twice myself, I got to say being blown up must of hurt.

Man, you guys are the greatest!

Our vets ROCK! smiley-patriotic-flag-wave

Thank you for your service, Kiwi

and a second thanks to GRITS
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My boys' is still serving in the Army with the 10th Mountain Division until the end of the month. 1 tour in Iraq, 2005/2006. 1 tour in Korea, 2004/2005.

I served in the french Army with the UISC#7 as a Sergeant for a fire-fighter/natural disaster rescue unit. I also completed special forces training, required for all non-com officers. My unit was deployed for search and rescue operations for the US Embassy bombing in Kenya and the big Mexico earthquake.

My dad was Lieutenant in the french Army and spent 3 years in the north-african desert during the 1958-1962 war, fighting the same a-holes that we're fight right now in the middle-east.

My brother-in-law is a Lt-Col. and fighter-jet pilot (Mirage 2000D) with the french Air Force, mainly working with NATO in the US and Canada. Combat missions in the 1st Gulf War, Post-Gulf War (UN no fly zones enforcement), Afganistan and Kossovo.
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thank you to you and your family for your service, CR and sorry about any french remarks I may have made.... :mellow: :huh: :unsure: :(

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thank you to you and your family for your service, CR and sorry about any french remarks I may have made.... :mellow: :huh: :unsure: :(

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Don't be sorry... I think that most french are assholes, that's why I moved from that hell hole. That's why I threw away my french citizenship when I became a proud US citizen. I might be harsher on the french than you are. :D

My dad was born and raised in Morroco from a Corsican settler's family. At that time, there were a lot of fine french people, my grampa's generation. Most were pro-American and my mom always remembered when she was 8 years old and the GIs rolling down the streets pushing the Nazis back where they came from. I was born and raised in Corsica, which is french territory, so I ended up serving in the french Army.

When I left europe 9 years ago, I think only 17% of the french were still supportive of the US. Like my family, I've always been a strong US supporter and I've been in a lot of arguments when I was younger. This is the main reason I moved to the country I love.
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CorsicanRedneck,Jan 16 2007
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Don't be sorry... I think that most french are assholes, that's why I moved from that hell hole. That's why I threw away my french citizenship when I became a proud US citizen. I might be harsher on the french than you are. :D

My dad was born and raised in Morroco from a Corsican settler's family. At that time, there were a lot of fine french people, my grampa's generation. Most were pro-American and my mom always remembered when she was 8 years old and the GIs rolling down the streets pushing the Nazis back where they came from. I was born and raised in Corsica, which is french territory, so I ended up serving in the french Army.

When I left europe 9 years ago, I think only 17% of the french were still supportive of the US. Like my family, I've always been a strong US supporter and I've been in a lot of arguments when I was younger. This is the main reason I moved to the country I love.

CR, amazing story and I do hope that you feel welcome here as a US citizen. From reading some of your posts on here, you seem to be a nice person and have a lot of likes that most of us have.

You would think that with all the military burial places in France where Americans are buried, that the French people would think a little differently than they do or is it maybe the the leaders there that has turned the tide against the US?

Anyway, glad you made it over here and became an American citizen, we welcome you and you did it the legal way. I served in the military with a guy from Holland and one from Japan and both of them had joined the U.S. Army so they could become an American citizen when they finished their tour. Both of them were great guys.
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Thanks for understanding, CR - appreciated? ;)
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My boys' is still serving in the Army with the 10th Mountain Division until the end of the month. 1 tour in Iraq, 2005/2006. 1 tour in Korea, 2004/2005.

I served in the french Army with the UISC#7 as a Sergeant for a fire-fighter/natural disaster rescue unit. I also completed special forces training, required for all non-com officers. My unit was deployed for search and rescue operations for the US Embassy bombing in Kenya and the big Mexico earthquake.

My dad was Lieutenant in the french Army and spent 3 years in the north-african desert during the 1958-1962 war, fighting the same a-holes that we're fight right now in the middle-east.

My brother-in-law is a Lt-Col. and fighter-jet pilot (Mirage 2000D) with the french Air Force, mainly working with NATO in the US and Canada. Combat missions in the 1st Gulf War, Post-Gulf War (UN no fly zones enforcement), Afganistan and Kossovo.

CR,

Welcome to America (9 years later) ... proud to have you as a brother citizen!!!

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