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Side effects of ADR especially depression
Topic Started: 19 Oct 2015, 08:56 AM (920 Views)
Alastair
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I'm writing this at the request of my counsellor who is treating me for depression. I've had ADR and now having further problems with my spine.

There is travelling that I can't do or I'm very limited on the distances that I can travel plus the pain.

There is no objective in life and I put a lot of weight on with lack of activity due to the pain and the depression.

It's always been a problem following surgery and pre-surgery about putting weight on, I think mine is mainly from fluids so I am on water tablets to try and help.

We are having people register but not posting here, would you please post if you have registered and keep the board active
best,
Alastair :-)
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ajj1001
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Hope you improve very soon x
Std Meds Gabapentin, MR Tramadol, Paracetemol, Laxatives
2011 Sept PLIF L4 - S1
2010 May Discogram L2/L3 & L3/L4 both looking ok.
2009 May PLG Fusion L5/S1 Charite in situ
April Dismissed
2008 Caudal Epidural failed to work
2007 Deterioration L5/S1 Facet arthritis, Loss of disc height.
2004 Returned to Work
2002 Aug - physio
March 2 level ADR Charite L4/5, L5/S1
2000 Broadbased disc prolapses L4/5, L5/S1
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Alastair
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It's been 12 months now since I started with panic attacks it

is very difficult and I sympathise with anyone who is in a similar situation

has anybody got any hints and tips that might help?
Best,
Alastair :D
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ADR L5/S1 Surgery with Dr Zeegers 26th July 2002 in Munich
8 facet joint ablations 28 – 8 – 12 with Dr Baranidharan and Jake Timothy in Leeds Diagnosed Forestiers disease
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ajj1001
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CBT/Talking therapies are very effective with any mental health issues. The big thing I've found is not to look for the day you are "cured" but to use coping strategies and cope day to day. When days you cope come together more and more often then you are managing well. When they don't its time to focus more on your strategies or look what you can change or develop to be more effective.
Std Meds Gabapentin, MR Tramadol, Paracetemol, Laxatives
2011 Sept PLIF L4 - S1
2010 May Discogram L2/L3 & L3/L4 both looking ok.
2009 May PLG Fusion L5/S1 Charite in situ
April Dismissed
2008 Caudal Epidural failed to work
2007 Deterioration L5/S1 Facet arthritis, Loss of disc height.
2004 Returned to Work
2002 Aug - physio
March 2 level ADR Charite L4/5, L5/S1
2000 Broadbased disc prolapses L4/5, L5/S1
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Alastair
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I`ve tried CBT but to no avail - -- doing a one to one councillor at present
Best
Alastair :D
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ADR L5/S1 Surgery with Dr Zeegers 26th July 2002 in Munich
8 facet joint ablations 28 – 8 – 12 with Dr Baranidharan and Jake Timothy in Leeds Diagnosed Forestiers disease
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Alastair
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I'm in to see my orthopaedic surgeon this morning and hope for some better news
Alastair :D
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ADR L5/S1 Surgery with Dr Zeegers 26th July 2002 in Munich
8 facet joint ablations 28 – 8 – 12 with Dr Baranidharan and Jake Timothy in Leeds Diagnosed Forestiers disease
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ajj1001
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Hope it went well. Its just been damage limitation since my charites failed :/
Std Meds Gabapentin, MR Tramadol, Paracetemol, Laxatives
2011 Sept PLIF L4 - S1
2010 May Discogram L2/L3 & L3/L4 both looking ok.
2009 May PLG Fusion L5/S1 Charite in situ
April Dismissed
2008 Caudal Epidural failed to work
2007 Deterioration L5/S1 Facet arthritis, Loss of disc height.
2004 Returned to Work
2002 Aug - physio
March 2 level ADR Charite L4/5, L5/S1
2000 Broadbased disc prolapses L4/5, L5/S1
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Alastair
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I'm sorry to hear that your charitee failed.

Somewhere I've missed this because I've got a charitee which I had done in 2002 and it's still going strong. Email me and tell me the story please or put it on here if you haven't done
best,
Alastair :D
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ADR L5/S1 Surgery with Dr Zeegers 26th July 2002 in Munich
8 facet joint ablations 28 – 8 – 12 with Dr Baranidharan and Jake Timothy in Leeds Diagnosed Forestiers disease
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ajj1001
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My revision thread

Should all be on this thread
Std Meds Gabapentin, MR Tramadol, Paracetemol, Laxatives
2011 Sept PLIF L4 - S1
2010 May Discogram L2/L3 & L3/L4 both looking ok.
2009 May PLG Fusion L5/S1 Charite in situ
April Dismissed
2008 Caudal Epidural failed to work
2007 Deterioration L5/S1 Facet arthritis, Loss of disc height.
2004 Returned to Work
2002 Aug - physio
March 2 level ADR Charite L4/5, L5/S1
2000 Broadbased disc prolapses L4/5, L5/S1
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Alastair
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Thanks for the link to the thread, it doesn't go back as far as your charitee implant failing and yours is the only one that I have heard of failing.

Did they take the implant out and do a fusion? This is the usual route
Best,
Alastair :D
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Slow and Steady Wins This Race
Over 23 Years experience and research into spine surgery and over 2500 surgeries discussed and recorded

ADR L5/S1 Surgery with Dr Zeegers 26th July 2002 in Munich
8 facet joint ablations 28 – 8 – 12 with Dr Baranidharan and Jake Timothy in Leeds Diagnosed Forestiers disease
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Hi Alastair,
I know exactly how you feel and can commiserate with you. I had my Lumbar ADR nearly 3 years ago and it is still fine but I'm still having lots of pain in my facets. I have had over 22 lots of injections (in 4 joints at a time) over 7 years. I have been told that I can't have any more. I now have osteopenia (unsure if the steroid injections caused it or not.) I am waiting for facet ablations, but am worried about my future if these do not work.

Also, I had a cervical C5/6 fusion on 31/3/15, which hasn't worked. It has been a fiasco from start to finish. I should have had a cervical ADR in November last year but NHS England withdrew funding for them at my Hospital. I then had to wait another 4 months for my operation, and due to pain and pressure from work, I had no choice but to have the fusion. I was then wrongly sent for physio, even though I should have been resting my neck and allowing it to fuse.

To cut a long story short, I am still in a lot of pain in my neck and have restricted movement. I have had to leave my job and be redeployed in another role, from 28 hours to 15, and a pay band lower, causing money worries on top of everything. I am barely managing to work at all.
I am still suffering with constant pain, depression, and to top it all off the Consultant has discharged me over my neck problems
I am not even sure if I'm under the Hospital for my lumbar spine problems! I have bowel and urinary problems since.
I know how you feel, I have put weight on and at 49 I dread the thought of what the future holds.
2009 Foraminal Epidural Steroid Injections commenced
2010-present Caudal Epidural and Facet Block Injections (several)
06/12/12 Activ Lumbar Disc Replacement L5/S1 by Mr Shackleford At Warrington Hospital.
31/3/15 - C5/6 ACDF operation - not fused
L1/2 disc herniation and C5/6 fusion caused by a fall in June 2014
Bowel and bladder incontinence (waiting to hear if it is nerve damage) and long term depression due to constant pain and disc trouble at the top, middle and bottom of spine.
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Hi Alastair,
I haven't wrote on here for a very long time, the reason being is that not much hasn't changed and to be honest any communication regarding my back brings me to tears but saw your post and although I have no words of wisdom I just wanted to let you know that I to know how you feel. Panic attacks and depression are awful. Just when I thought my life couldn't get much worse after the unsuccessful adr and it's weird wedged position, as now at the rear end the plates are touching which causes a whole load of other problems, depression punched my right in the face. The thing that helps me is my children and husband so hold those dear to you close and hold on to them tight as they will see you through.
I know I haven't said much Alastair but just wanted to give what support I can to you. Take care x
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2000-09 Pain clinic
2009 Mr Boeree
2011 ADR M6-L & decompression @L4/5
2012 Multi level facet degeneration, dehydrated disc, hyper extension due to adr, ossification of anterior longitudinal ligament, bugles throughout lumbar area, loss of disc height, stenosis, kyphosis.
2013 onwards ADR Frozen in wedge position ends touching
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Alastair
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Thanks for your reply

I'm extremely lucky that I was a wonderful wife who can put up and tolerate my depression.

I'm going for an MRI scan on Monday to see what the damages but meanwhile taking Co-Codomol to try and ease the pain down in addition to the Bu trains patches. They are causing constipation as you can guess.
best,
Alastair :D
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Slow and Steady Wins This Race
Over 23 Years experience and research into spine surgery and over 2500 surgeries discussed and recorded

ADR L5/S1 Surgery with Dr Zeegers 26th July 2002 in Munich
8 facet joint ablations 28 – 8 – 12 with Dr Baranidharan and Jake Timothy in Leeds Diagnosed Forestiers disease
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I live in West Yorkshire aged 81 now

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Alastair
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I have cancelled MRI scan, and simply shaking during the day and it will not be practical. I've gone on to medication and hopefully that will help

anybody else have these problems in depression?
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Slow and Steady Wins This Race
Over 23 Years experience and research into spine surgery and over 2500 surgeries discussed and recorded

ADR L5/S1 Surgery with Dr Zeegers 26th July 2002 in Munich
8 facet joint ablations 28 – 8 – 12 with Dr Baranidharan and Jake Timothy in Leeds Diagnosed Forestiers disease
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ajj1001
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Alastair,Nov 7 2015
09:35 AM
anybody else have these problems in depression?

Don't think I'm speaking out of turn to say that most us do.
Std Meds Gabapentin, MR Tramadol, Paracetemol, Laxatives
2011 Sept PLIF L4 - S1
2010 May Discogram L2/L3 & L3/L4 both looking ok.
2009 May PLG Fusion L5/S1 Charite in situ
April Dismissed
2008 Caudal Epidural failed to work
2007 Deterioration L5/S1 Facet arthritis, Loss of disc height.
2004 Returned to Work
2002 Aug - physio
March 2 level ADR Charite L4/5, L5/S1
2000 Broadbased disc prolapses L4/5, L5/S1
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