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Rocket Man; sub-text, or shippy imagination?
Topic Started: Aug 15 2010, 04:31 AM (1,159 Views)
eamesfreak
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so I watched this one tonight (for the second time, technically, it was on TV one night recently and I watched it, but not really watched it, ya know.)

Ok there's a lot going on in this one. TONS of what I percieve to be sub-text. However. I kind of read it to be noromo sub-text. (*ducks to avoid swings*) I'd appreciate some help figuring this one out, I won't be able to rest easy until I determine I'm wrong.

I need a repeat viewing, definitely, but cannot do it tonight, it's already 2:25am here :P I should've been sleeping LONG ago.

I'll try to post some actual word-for-word lines tomorrow, I know for sure, if nothing else, this ep had a lot to say about relationships, affairs, sex, and love.


... *uneasy whimper*

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bogoalexea
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Something anti-shippy? :blink: :(
I'm (we're) waiting for your elaboration!

Let me mention a few... nice parts in the meantime:
I loved it when Bobby asked her "Do you think I'm angry?"... That fact that he asked her shows that her opinion truly counts to him :)

Another scene closer to the end:
Bobby got back at Ross with the "so am I, so are you line and I love it how we saw Eames biting back a smile,lol

And one more thing:
Bobby was talking to "The Commander" about Lt X (not good with names). He said something close to: "Lt. X seemed to have strong feelings for Lt. Heart (?)... do you think they were romantically involved" You know what it made me think of ;)
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I haven't seen this one in a while either... will have to see it again but I seem to remember spying a lot of subtext thru my shippy eye :ph43r: !

There was an AFFAIR between CO-WORKERS (a superior and a junior officer). Even though they were DISCREET their other co-workers KNEW what was going on....


I WANT it to be shippy so ship is what I see!!! :wub:
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eamesfreak
Aug 15 2010, 09:31 AM
so I watched this one tonight (for the second time, technically, it was on TV one night recently and I watched it, but not really watched it, ya know.)

Ok there's a lot going on in this one. TONS of what I percieve to be sub-text. However. I kind of read it to be noromo sub-text. (*ducks to avoid swings*) I'd appreciate some help figuring this one out, I won't be able to rest easy until I determine I'm wrong.

I need a repeat viewing, definitely, but cannot do it tonight, it's already 2:25am here  :P  I should've been sleeping LONG ago.

I'll try to post some actual word-for-word lines tomorrow, I know for sure, if nothing else, this ep had a lot to say about relationships, affairs, sex, and love.


... *uneasy whimper*



i did a little thinking about this one awhile ago, ef, and i found it a little unsettling, too. there's an ambiguous subtext about 'romantic relationships among professional colleagues'
WARNING: all loci things in my journal are self-indulgent hogswallow, so read with care.
unicornish journal entry about 'rocketman'

sometimes, i think it's just awkward, trying to mesh these 'ripped from the headlines' stories with the B/A shadow story. the results end up being sort-of stilted, like this one. IMHSO it's not one of their better episodes.
i appreciate the effort the director or cinematographer or whoever has put into the 'close but not touching' walking side-by-side scene ... (snarl snarl snarl ... used to have a still of that. anybody?)

ship!
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callie119
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Yes, Uni, that is a beautiful still if anyone has it, please share. I find this episode totally shippy!!!! Alex: " Everyone tells us how discreet you are." The secret lovers parallel.......very shippy. And they both look great in this episode too. :P
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Aug 16 2010, 09:46 PM
Yes, Uni, that is a beautiful still if anyone has it, please share.  I find this episode totally shippy!!!!    Alex: " Everyone tells us how discreet you are."    The secret lovers parallel.......very shippy.  And they both look great in this episode too. :P

yes, indeedy!
i'm wasting valuable work time searching for that still. i remember finding it as an icon first ... so i'm off in lj land. dang place is so huge.

thematically, it's a fairly obvious parallel. (you know, the more i look at the big picture, the more silly anything noromo-ish becomes. it's in everything.) :huh:
i agree with ef that it's awkward and ambiguous enough that a non-shippy inference can be made. <_<

and if there's a linear storyline (and if you unscramble them and watch them chronologically, there absolutely IS a linear storyline), last ep. was 'silencer' and now Eames knows where she belongs, :wub: and they are getting over the whole 'Gage' business and getting chummy again, just in time for 'endgame'. :(

it's awkward, but it only makes sense to be a B/A parallel. who else is having a relationship they aren't supposed to be having and everyone knows? Ross and Rodgers? :blink: logically, it has to be them. right? especially with the whole 'hard to be a woman in a man's world' parallel?
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As I mentioned earlier in this thread, I've always thought the astronaut lovers paralleled B/A. What was ambiguous? Why the noromo rumblings? What did I miss? :blink: :unsure: :huh:
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UNI: i'm wasting valuable work time searching for that still.


I'll make you one.
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oh. you're talking about the scene where they walk away together towards a giant window, with light shining through all nice like... right?
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eamesfreak
Aug 17 2010, 02:29 AM
oh. you're talking about the scene where they walk away together towards a giant window, with light shining through all nice like... right?

that's a good one, too. 'havers' aka 'superfelix' made that one. in context, it's not that exciting a scene, but it's an excellent icon. she has a good eye.

no, the one i'm talking about has them walking outside, side-by-side, in big winter coats, and there's the littlest crack of light between them, and it's there the entire segment ... not once do they even accidentally bump each other. yummy ust deliciousness. :wub:
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Speaking for myself, I was talking about the one outside when they were first talking with the dark haired astronaut lady. Eames black coat was blowing and Bobby looked stunning in his long black coat. Beautiful picture.
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Ok, I think I found the one uni's talking about :D
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Aug 17 2010, 09:03 PM
Ok, I think I found the one uni's talking about :D
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:wub: <- imagine this is enormous. i love this image.

yep, that's it! thanks B! :) is this the one you meant, too, callie??

it's a good one. i think it might be one of the still images that prompted me to pay closer attention to the 'touch / no touch' detail.

as far as i can tell, they do not accidentally touch each other, ever. each touch is deliberate. i concluded that each obvious, clear example of 'NOT touching' must also be for a reason. is it me, or is this 'obviously not touching'?? :huh:

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yeah, (at least in that icon) it kinda looks like he's leaning away from her purposely.
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Yes Uni, that's the one I was talking about too but there is another one, same shot but from farther away where we see both of them in full view. It's a beautiful shot. I have the next few days off, I will try to find it. I am sure it's on that 'other board.'
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