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Vanishing Act
Topic Started: May 2 2010, 11:29 AM (1,376 Views)
unicorn
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couldn't sleep last night, and didn't realize i have this one in my hard drive.
so, some screen stills to share.

i don't get exactly what's going on in this episode, but Warren Leight is responsible for the story. so, it's gonna feature 'Goren's interpersonal relationships' for sure.
and boy, does it ever. i think we can agree that the shippy subtext isn't so 'sub' in this one.

clearly, she is not over being mad at him. clearly, he acts like a fool, trying to make up.

i understand the order of season 7 is messed up. this is meant to come after 'betrayed' and before 'kissinger'. it makes more sense with that in mind.

(i submit once again that the only reason for messing up the broadcast order is to keep viewers from noticing the 'subtext' story about Goren and Eames.
i think that, because that is what it accomplishes.)

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cool card trick? in tarot, these are the queen of cups and king of wands. they represent mature people who extol the virtues represented by the suits. the queen of cups is deeply emotional and in touch with her feelings. and the king of wands is a virile and powerful leader.
(shall i do an in-depth analysis of these as tarot figures? or is that too 'insufferable know-it-all for y'all?)

time-wise -- they check out dead Miles in the modified mummy cabinet. playful and excited Goren mentions that his uncle took him to magic shops. it's supposed to be night, but we are shown a 'lovely assistant, Miranda' walking outside in daylight, talking on her cell. so, it's near the summer solstice? (light until 10:30 at night??)

they interview drunk Carmine and the main 'subtext' is introduced. Carmine says of Miles Stone -- 'he's go no respect. makes himself out to be better than the tradition'. and Goren challenges 'traditions' (which include less-than-admirable behaviours like getting stinking drunk.)
something happens i don't get. Eames shows Goren her cell phone and says they have another stop to make.
no explanation.
then, next day.

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and Goren, a normally hella-serious dude, is extraordinarily chipper and playful, all apparently for her benefit. here he mentions 'the code' and that joke about revealing the secret ...
i get from this that Goren is a member of more than one club -- he follows more than one code. (don't most of us?) the magician's code of silence is older than policing. idk. just blathering here.

the case takes a week or so ... several costume changes.
the cemetary investigation ...
i love this. the proximity thing. artistically speaking and setting-wise, i can't see much point to this scene. but, it establishes that they still aren't touching each other, no matter how closely they need to stand. it's why he shuffles his feet.

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touching???
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nope. NOT touching.

the whole episode has them missing eye contact. and fleeting moments like these ...
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then, backstage with Dean.
whatcha all think about this scene, shippy people???

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when Dean Holliday does his read of Eames, she steps back into Goren's 'orbit', so no matter how pissed she might still be at him, he's still her safe zone.
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and more pics (i made all these stills in a crazed insomniac frenzy) ... :ph43r:

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they're JUST PARTNERS.

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no really. nothing going on there at all. no personal feelings, that's for sure.

these are deceptive images. the action is fast, and they do not appear to be connecting. rather, they appear to be 'out of sync'. but i don't think so.
she's just still mad at him.

but not too mad to get him a coffee.
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they're wearing matching blue in this scene. oh, the blue ... (sigh)

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nice.

the aria is all filled with double meanings, right? :huh: i'm not imagining this, am i???

(maybe i am imagining things???) but there are so many parallels ... like the 'inadvertent betrayal' thing with Jacob and Theresa??
Theresa was being played. she was motivated by good intentions -- by loyalty to her partner. she did not intend to betray him (and Miles). i think he understands 'being played' now. i get that he feels for her.
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except unlike Jacob, Eames is going to forgive Goren.
("it's all there, all right. but not towards my partner." it's what she says two episodes later.)

but by extension - doesn't this suggest that SOME PERSON WAS in fact orchestrating his fall and demise? that person isn't Ross, so i submit that the chief was behind the whole thing.
that's why Eames didn't know Bobby was in Testarossa's office even though their dude was wearing a wire. that's why the rookie riding with Melago flipped right away. that's why Melago was genuinely surprised about the disparity in drug quantities. that's why Stoat seems so darn sincere in his interrogation ... they were under the impression that they were 'part of a plan' and were safe from official prosecution.
they didn't realize they were being played, too.

so, Bobby (Miles Stone) has pissed 'some one' ('Dean Holliday') off by showing disregard for 'the tradition' (authority / chain of command / way things are )
but really??? by being better than everyone else.
and the 'how' Bobby made himself a 'sitting duck' / (weakening himself) was by doing the thing in Tates (just like Miles' trick, trying to make things 'too real' instead of asking his partner to help him with a convincing illusion) and getting suspended. and being available for that undercover thing ...

then the aria, another hilarious mention of 'misdirection' ... this time, when he says it, he's actually walking into the camera. like 'HELLO!! YOU CAN'T TAKE YOUR EYES OFF ME, AUDIENCE!' which is true. Eames could be doing anything back there -- all eyes are on the big dude.
Holliday singles her out as someone who still understands 'respect' (for the tradition) and she is not comfortable with this.

i wonder how many times i'm going to need to have the underlying linear story about Goren and Eames shoved in my face before i stop feeling insecure and doubting my own eyes and ears ... ??

imagine a giant :wub: here.

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May 2 2010, 12:27 PM
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Hello....
Are they touching here?!?

I always felt B/A were on the mend in this episode. Of course if I had to make a list of "the most ridiculously shippy moments that debunk noromo theories" Mr Magician-guy's cold read of Alex about the "man in her life" would certainly take top five, at least.
I've played that scene over and over. I love everything about it. From Bobby's look of shame during the read, to Alex slipping back into Bobby's orbit. Notsomuch for protection, IMO, but to show her loyalty(there's that word again). And Bobby's eyes search her for approval, for forgivness, or for some of that self depracating Bobby Goren confirmation that she maybe doesn't forgive him. I think it's all there in his expression.

His magic tricks, her childish giggles, they symbolize the road back to one another. It's not like we're going to get to see them making out in the SUV on the ride back to NYC from AC. So we get tricks and giggles instead :P .
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One of my favorite Eames scenes EVER is in this epi. It's when Goren jokes with Ross that he could tell him the secret behind a trick, "I could tell you, but, you know..." and Eames almost busts out in the background. She has the greatest smile.
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unicorn
May 2 2010, 12:27 PM
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Hello....
Are they touching here?!?

I always felt B/A were on the mend in this episode. Of course if I had to make a list of "the most ridiculously shippy moments that debunk noromo theories" Mr Magician-guy's cold read of Alex about the "man in her life" would certainly take top five, at least.
I've played that scene over and over. I love everything about it. From Bobby's look of shame during the read, to Alex slipping back into Bobby's orbit. Notsomuch for protection, IMO, but to show her loyalty(there's that word again). And Bobby's eyes search her for approval, for forgivness, or for some of that self depracating Bobby Goren confirmation that she maybe doesn't forgive him. I think it's all there in his expression.

His magic tricks, her childish giggles, they symbolize the road back to one another. It's not like we're going to get to see them making out in the SUV on the ride back to NYC from AC. So we get tricks and giggles instead :P .


For the record, I've handed off more than my share of cups of coffee to male co-workers, and there's usually the fingertip pass, not full-on hand contact. Except when there's something going on, of course. :P
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Thanks for these, uni! I LOVE that first one. and yeah, I've always liked that other one, as well, where they're both looking up. Just another instance of mimicking each other's body language. I think we need to comprise a collection of those. As time goes on, there are more and more of them I've noticed. :D
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Here's that scene I was talking about upstream... the "I'd tell you, but... you know"

LOL, cracks me up even looking at it here.


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I've always thought that B/A made up sometime in 'Vanishing Act' until some of our fellow peeps pointed out how significant this moment in 'Betrayed' might be:
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In the start of 'Vanishing Act' where Bobby was rambling like an excited child about his uncle (and fooling around the dead body... jeez,lol), Eames had that expression which could be translated by "Yeah cool, very interesting you asshole"... She was clearly still chewing on his betrayal. A non-betrayed Eames would have a smile on her face or would just have a teasing/playful demeanor. But yes, sometime along the ep, she let go of her grudge somehow.... Maybe around Paulie's Eames' smile ( :P )

Plus all their childish games together was totally a proof really that they made up (too cute)
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I love it how that other detective continued doing her work, like if what B/A were up to was none of her business (lol)

This ep is definitely on my 'Favorite list' ^_^


As for after Holiday read Eames, I'm clinging to the idea that she went back next to Bobby for security reasons... I mean Holiday didn't know that the "man in her life" was Bobby so I don't see why she'd try to show her loyalty there....
And Bobby was so tense during the reading really! I also loved it how he was just playing with the cards like an insecure child. If Holiday realized that Bobby was "the man" he would of brought it up somehow and increase the discomfort in the room...

The first time I watched 'Vanishing Act' I wasn't a shipper. I was fence-riding :rolleyes: and when Holiday said "with a man in your life", I remember I had that 'weird' feeling... The same feeling I had when she opened up on him in 'Purgatory'. In other words I had the Shippiness denial feeling. I felt like those lines (moments) where wrong, like they didn't fit the non-romantic-feelings that I thought probably existed between B/A :D
Now when I look back and realized that I thought that way, I just feel happy inside, acknowledging that I was just dead wrong about them :wub:


Sorry NoRomos, but the writers couldn't of put it any shippier way "...with a man in your life" WOW :wub: I mean when somebody ask you "do you have a man in your life?" what the hell do you think they mean??? ;)


SHIP!!!!!


And the very last scene:
Holiday (after Bobby cuffed him from behind)--"Is all this restraint really necessary?"
Eames--We learned our lessons too?
Holidays-- (looks at Eames for a bit then says) "Glad that some people still know the meaning of respect"

The bad guy's last words always confuse me :blink: I don't get it... Then B/A look at each other... not simultaneously and kinda awkward, Eames does a nose rub.... I think uni. provided an explanation on the top, but I'm still confused :( Help?


And yes "Kissinger" belongs in the first half of Season 7, I place it right after "Depths" (idk to me it just makes sense there).
"Purgatory", "Betrayed", "Vanishing Act": three eps in a row blatantly surrounding B/A unprofessional relationship? That's too much for CI (lol) :wub:
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bogo:  I mean Holiday didn't know that the "man in her life" was Bobby so I don't see why she'd try to show her loyalty there....


I respectfully disagree. Isn't the way these particular magicians work by just being like, freakishly observant, etc? (I forget the exact terminology Bobby uses) - ie: Holiday didn't know there was anything going on until he saw them together, he could sense the tension in little stuff like eye contact, body language, etc. (or he was snoopy and found information on them elsewhere)
Therefore, I think the magician guy did know the man in her life was bobby, and this is what makes it even more shippy. I agree what you said about the meaning of "a man in your life". He could tell there was conflict between them, but he could also tell they were more than platonic colleagues.

HA what'dya say to that, noromos!?!! (do you think they'd mind if we re-name them ostriches? :lol: )
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May 2 2010, 11:29 AM
in tarot, these are the queen of cups and king of wands.  they represent mature people who extol the virtues represented by the suits.  the queen of cups is deeply emotional and in touch with her feelings.  and the king of wands is a virile and powerful leader.
(shall i do an in-depth analysis of these as tarot figures? or is that too 'insufferable know-it-all for y'all?)


I was catching up on my reading and came across this again. Unicorn- I would love to read an in depth analysis of these as tarot figures when you have time. (I am sure you are still busy with your move. Last time I moved I finally threw out the unpacked boxes a year or two later) :)

Before I started reading LOCI episode discussions I didn't think about sub-text or symbolism but something was definitely putting shippy ideas in my head! All these subtle clues are fascinating!

I love examining CI for evidence of B/A love- I tell my husband it is healthier than drugs or alcohol and it doesn't cost anything :D
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SKITTLES: I love examining CI for evidence of B/A love- I tell my husband it is healthier than drugs or alcohol and it doesn't cost anything 


:lol: LOVE IT!!!! I'm SO going to use that.
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May 6 2010, 02:07 PM
Sorry NoRomos, but the writers couldn't of put it any shippier way "...with a man in your life" WOW :wub: I mean when somebody ask you "do you have a man in your life?" what the hell do you think they mean??? ;)


SHIP!!!!!





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Yeah, I have to agree on that wording too. Girlfriend agrees as well. Those are romantic connection terms.
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May 24 2010, 05:12 PM
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May 2 2010, 11:29 AM
in tarot, these are the queen of cups and king of wands.  they represent mature people who extol the virtues represented by the suits.  the queen of cups is deeply emotional and in touch with her feelings.  and the king of wands is a virile and powerful leader.
(shall i do an in-depth analysis of these as tarot figures? or is that too 'insufferable know-it-all for y'all?)


I was catching up on my reading and came across this again. Unicorn- I would love to read an in depth analysis of these as tarot figures when you have time. (I am sure you are still busy with your move. Last time I moved I finally threw out the unpacked boxes a year or two later) :)

Before I started reading LOCI episode discussions I didn't think about sub-text or symbolism but something was definitely putting shippy ideas in my head! All these subtle clues are fascinating!

I love examining CI for evidence of B/A love- I tell my husband it is healthier than drugs or alcohol and it doesn't cost anything :D

y'know skittles, my old man has been saying that exact same thing for a couple of years now.
it's free, and (hopefully) doesn't hurt anybody. that's more that i can say about a lot of things.
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so, let me start by stressing that i am not a psychic person, and i'm not sure i believe in psychics. :huh:

in my (20+ years) experience as a reader, tarot is like a Rorschach - it's generalized enough that each individual card (with all its layers of subtle and overt symbolism) can be applied to almost any life and any set of circumstances, and have significant personal meaning.

there are two separate decks in tarot - the major arcana (which contains 22 cards that symbolically represent the major transitional points, trials and achievements common to many people)
and the minor arcana, which corresponds to the modern playing card deck (plus the zero card - the fool. modern decks include that one.)

minor arcana cards are divided into four suits, each suit addresses matters of daily life and each corresponds to an ancient element and a direction, such as:
material life, home and work (pentacles/discs/coins/diamonds-earth/north),
intellectual life and reason (swords/spades-air/east),
emotional life and romantic love (cups/chalices/hearts-water/west)
and will/power, creativity, control (staffs/rods/wands/clubs-fire/south)

the cards are numbered from one (beginnings) to ten (completions), plus four face cards.
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the queen of cups.
think 'water, inner feelings, feminine, womb'.

face cards represent actual people.
a queen of any suit is better seen as a regular person who through life experience or practiced art has become so good at what she does, she can safely direct others through her process. a contemporary new-age take on her might be 'priestess'.
i might say 'teacher'. or guide. she is a person who is never out of her element with regards to that suit.

so, someone who has been submerged in emotional life, has become so comfortable with emotional life that she is confident swimming through powerful emotions, has a mature understanding and acceptance of love. also, is aware of and in touch with deep unconscious thoughts, the existence of a larger unconscious mind, and is at home swimming around there as well. someone who does not require language to communicate, or to understand the true nature of emotions, someone who completely trusts intuition and 'inner voice'.
but more than that, she is the essence of 'anima' (remember that word from 'lady's man'??) the divine inspiring 'feminine' wisdom as it exists within all of us, male or female -- in opposition to divine 'masculine'.


speaking of 'divine masculine' ...


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king of clubs
think 'external, masculine, (ahem) male member'.

similarly, kings tend to be representative of actual people who have been at work on an issue or facet of regular human life for so long and with such intensity or diligence that they have become 'expert'.

a king is 'authority through life experience'.

the wand is the tool with which we direct all our inner energies (emotions, artistic / creative impulses, intellectual activity) to affect our external world.

the king of wands is precisely who you want in a crisis situation. with a deep, mature understanding of his own inner life as well as the workings of the external material world, he responds instinctively to manage complex, stressful situations with complete confidence in himself. consequently, he inspires others to follow his direction, not with power-over, but from a place of respect for his wisdom.

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i've been thinking about this a lot. because i don't agree with these character interpretations for our dynamic duo. :blink:

i think they're 'inverted'. Eames is the king of clubs. Bobby is the queen of hearts.

regardless, they are the epitome of 'complementary skills' ...

shippers??

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