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| Deadly shooting at US university | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Apr 16 2007, 04:39 PM (228 Views) | |
| Yelda | Apr 16 2007, 04:39 PM Post #1 |
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6560685.stm
This is breaking news and there's not much info yet, but wow. Two different incidents two hours apart? |
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| Yelda | Apr 16 2007, 05:08 PM Post #2 |
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Godmodding Blatherskite
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Update: http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/16/vtech.sho...=rss_topstories
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| Karmicaria | Apr 16 2007, 05:50 PM Post #3 |
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UNOG Dominatrix living the single life.
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Listening to the news, it said that it is thought that at least 22 were killed. Last year there was a shooting at a Montreal college. It's all very sad and I really can't understand why things like this happen. It makes me regret bringing two children into a world like this. My oldest daughter is in kindergarten and I still worry that some crazed maniac will find their way into her school. I honestly hope that the gunman is actually dead and that there are no others running around the University. |
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Such amusing fiction, these stories they tell. It always comes to this. If they really had a desire to live, they would've been more aware of how easy it is to die, would've chosen their actions more wisely. In these moments, you can tell they're not regretting having hurt you. They're regretting doing it to your face. You are not special. You are not a beautiful or unique snowflake. You are the same decaying organic matter as everything else. | |
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| Karmicaria | Apr 16 2007, 06:18 PM Post #4 |
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UNOG Dominatrix living the single life.
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Pulled this out of NSG.
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Such amusing fiction, these stories they tell. It always comes to this. If they really had a desire to live, they would've been more aware of how easy it is to die, would've chosen their actions more wisely. In these moments, you can tell they're not regretting having hurt you. They're regretting doing it to your face. You are not special. You are not a beautiful or unique snowflake. You are the same decaying organic matter as everything else. | |
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| Forgottenlord | Apr 16 2007, 06:36 PM Post #5 |
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Personally, the shooting incident that intrigues me the most was the one in Taber, Alta in the aftermath of the Columbine shootings. A kid who I think had been suspended or something walked into a school with a shotgun, sees a girl and a teacher (each of which he told to get lost) then sees 4 guys turn a corner, shoots at them, wounds 2, kills 1, then lowers his gun and leans against a wall until police disarmed him. On a different note, I think the only incidents involving elementary school shootings that I've heard of were ones where another kid got hold of daddy's gun and took it to school. |
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| Allech-Atreus | Apr 16 2007, 06:43 PM Post #6 |
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Trying Too Hard
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There was a bomb set off on the other side of my campus last Thursday. Blew some concrete through a guys' dorm window. Thankfully no one was hurt. But god damn, this is shitty. |
| Also known as Snefaldia and Palaam | |
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| Forgottenlord | Apr 16 2007, 08:26 PM Post #7 |
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Most I've heard of on this campus was a stabbing incident - though it is suspected to have been over drugs rather than random victim. In fact, there was a bigger hubbub over a prof who blew up when a pair of students walked into her class on Women's rights or something like that, turned over a laundry basket of clothes, and then asked her when they'd be washed by. The incident got a Resident Assistant fired and Residence Services had to spend a lengthy amount of time protecting the students from being evicted from their rooms (I think, at one point, the entire floor had been told it was being evicted by the Registrar's office before Residence Services said "it's not within your power to do that") EDIT: I should note the entire incident was a prank for a video contest the residence was having. Er....yeah.....quite off topic there..... |
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| Forgottenlord | Apr 16 2007, 08:42 PM Post #8 |
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CNN has the number pegged at "at least 31" now..... |
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| Kivisto | Apr 17 2007, 10:59 PM Post #9 |
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Last I heard was 33 today |
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TBlack: Tits Des, tits. Yes dear, I saw. FL: Fine, so I'm opinionated - old news. | |
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| Forgottenlord | Apr 17 2007, 11:12 PM Post #10 |
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The final tally as of last night was 2 from the first shooting, 30 from the second + the gunner EDIT: I'm debating whether to rant about the reaction thus far - specifically the "why didn't they lock the University down after the first shooting" |
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| Allech-Atreus | Apr 17 2007, 11:27 PM Post #11 |
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Trying Too Hard
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As to why they didn't lock down- It's a land grant school, with somewhere around 23,000 undergrads on campus, in a huge area. The police and the administration didn't have complete information, students were already on their way to class, etc etc etc. MSU folks here are already beating the drum for a proper disaster plan, which is ridiculous because we have 45,000 students in an area the size of a small city, many of whom live off campus and/or commute. Dr. Phil is trying to blame this on video games and violent popular culture. Ridiculous, knowing that the murderer was a known loner/depressive who didn't talk to anyone, had few friends, and was referred to counseling for his distrubing creative writings. And while I truly feel for the students, and understand how horrible this is, if I get another invitation to join a Facebook group about the Vtech massacre I'm going to scream. |
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| Forgottenlord | Apr 17 2007, 11:39 PM Post #12 |
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It's not even that. The first incident was a double homicide at the most - yes, with a gun, but still just a double homicide. In fact, the school thought it was a murder-suicide at the time. Do you shut down an entire University and get loudspeakers going that you had a double homicide on campus? It doesn't make any sense! And of course he blamed it upon violent video games. We'll have rap music, TV, movies, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc. Oh no, let's not look at the possibility that the individual needed help or that every so often, the most peaceful society to have ever existed is going to get a nutjob that it will either help or it will see do something fucking stupid. Maybe the NRA will actually endorse legislation saying that non-Americans can't own guns. (Actually, I will be fucking surprised if that type of legislation doesn't get pushed SOMEWHERE in the US because of this) |
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| TBlack | Apr 18 2007, 06:17 AM Post #13 |
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The baby killer
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From what I understand the feeling isn't that there was a problem with him having a gun it's that the people who died have their own. |
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| Forgottenlord | Apr 18 2007, 06:29 AM Post #14 |
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Could you clarify? |
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| TBlack | Apr 18 2007, 07:02 AM Post #15 |
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The baby killer
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Well if the people who died had a gun they would have been able to kill him before he killed them. |
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"You would think it obvious to anyone, with a grain of intelligence, that there are far too many people born in England." .:I'm melting!: http://alwaysautumn.etsy.com :. | |
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