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Hooliganism: not just for football fans anymore
Topic Started: Mar 30 2007, 12:09 AM (297 Views)
Kelssek
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Any excuse for a fight with these guys, eh.

http://edition.cnn.com/2007/SPORT/03/29/greece.riot.reut/

ATHENS, Greece (Reuters) -- A man died and six other people were injured, one critically, in clashes between rival volleyball fans heading to a women's match in eastern Athens, Greek media reported on Thursday.

"They were fighting with clubs, knives, steel bars, stones for over 15 minutes. I hid behind the electricity pylon for cover. It was war," a resident of the Peania suburb told private Mega television.
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Allech-Atreus
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When will people finally admit that we must outlaw all sports?!?!?
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Try it, I’ll bludgeon you with my tennis racket and test how fast my serves are with your yelps… oh wait… sports do encourage violence. In that case, yeah, ban them. :huh:
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That's okay, cricket's not a sport, it's a religious obligation.
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And none of the hooligans were English? :o
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Ok, riddle me this:

Football and Hockey. Fine, we hear about the odd parent that losses it because their son was run over on the ice or whatever, but you just don't hear about all-out brawls. These are full contact sports watched by people who LOVE to see someone get beat up without having to go to a boxing match, but somehow they don't kill each other

SOCCER and VOLLEYBALL? Non-contact sports? WTF?
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Hirota
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Get it right. It's Football and American football. ;)
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Kelssek
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I think this, just like with most ostensibly sports-related fan violence, is more to do with thugs looking for any excuse to get into a fight. If it wasn't over sports teams it'd be over favorite beers or favorite cars, or worse, racial or communal.
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Forgottenlord,Mar 30 2007
06:45 AM
SOCCER and VOLLEYBALL? Non-contact sports? WTF?

If you guys think "soccer" is a non-contact sport... you're not playing it right.
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East Hackney,Mar 30 2007
09:13 AM
Forgottenlord,Mar 30 2007
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SOCCER and VOLLEYBALL?  Non-contact sports?  WTF?

If you guys think "soccer" is a non-contact sport... you're not playing it right.

They should go so a glasgow derby match for non-contact ;)
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Football is non-contact? I refer you to Leeds United, circa 1975(ish?).
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Oh don't give me that crap. When they're hitting each other as much as Hockey, Rugby and Football players (I will call it American Football the moment you start calling it British Football)
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[adminhat] Nice agressive tone you are working on there but would you mind turning it down a bit. [/adminhat]
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I think it was somewhat clear I was barely holding back a rant there. Here it is:

On both sides of the pond, we use the word football. As such, whenever you say Football, the first question that goes through our minds will either be whatever we personally normally call Football or trying to recall where you are in the world. Either way. American Football is referred to as Football over here and if we need to refer to your football, we call it Soccer. The only time we actually call it American Football here is when we're talking to Brits or we're trying to compare Canadian and American Football.

As such, the only reason we need to distinguish "Football" and "American Football" is for the sake of clarity. However, explain to me why we should be required to bring clarity and to differentiate between American Football for you but you guys can use Football freely, confusing the crap out of those who don't know which Continent you guys are on (and, occassionally, me because I forgot about the alternate term).

Fine, you guys named it Football before American Football ever existed, but Canadian Football predates American Football and the general field is still known as American Football. It's still about clarity.
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Speaking of clarity, or rather speaking of non contact, I was listening to an NPR interview with this very ederly famous college basketball coach (he won 10 championships in a 12 year span) who was lamenting that college basketball was clearly becomming to violent with someone on the ground with a bloody nose practically every game.

I think we should just throw away "football" all together. It doesn't look like a foot. And before you say "you use your feet" you use other parts of your body as well right? Who hasn't seen someone head butted that spheroid? I propose that we call American/Canadian football "Pigskinball" and the other game "Geodesicball." :P

Meanwhile the "little" football season is only a few months away. If you have never seen "Arena Football" you should. It's really cute. It's American Football in the size of an ice hocky rink.
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