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| Tweet Topic Started: Jan 18 2006, 08:54 PM (225 Views) | |
| Cobdenia | Jan 18 2006, 08:54 PM Post #1 |
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Will historical accuracy triumph over political correctness? Unlikely
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| Gruenberg | Jan 18 2006, 08:59 PM Post #2 |
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What a pile of crap. (That said, an acceptable solution would be just not to make the film in the first place.) EDIT: My objection, I should probably make, clear, is to those nervous about the use of the word. It's a film about us blowing the shit out of thousands of civilians...and that's what they're worried about? |
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| TBlack | Jan 18 2006, 09:04 PM Post #3 |
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It's just something that's not acceptable today. And I don't think it should be. I'm not going to take a marker to my Poe or Waugh books but if I was to adapt them (please NED, one day) for television I wouldn't leave it in. And that's all this is. An adaptation of history. As long as they don't claim to be accurate. |
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| Cobdenia | Jan 18 2006, 09:09 PM Post #4 |
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Yes, but if you are making a film about a real life event, people expect it or assume it to be accurate. The name of a dog may seem like a little thing to worry about, but in the story it is pretty central. Niggers death is taken by Gibson to be an omen, and expected that he wouldn't survive. It also was an important code word (which has become pretty famous). PS. One of the reasons why this story was made was because it was probably the only story of bomber pilots where they didn't kill thousands of civilians. They hit a manufacturing area (which the Germans seperated from their residential areas, unlike the Japanese) at night, when they were largely unoccupied. |
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Norbert But my name is Steve! No no no, it's spelled, "Steve," but it's pronounced, "Norbert ". You Lie! It's Mr June Rejection Wait, so now my name is Norbert June? | |
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| Gruenberg | Jan 18 2006, 09:11 PM Post #5 |
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Hmm...not sure I really buy it as being essential to the plot line. But I don't think that's a reason not to use it. |
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| TBlack | Jan 18 2006, 09:14 PM Post #6 |
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Not the fault of the film maker. It's often necessary to edit storeys, for taste and decency, political reasons, to make it interesting. People should be aware of this and critical of it. |
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| TBlack | Jan 18 2006, 09:15 PM Post #7 |
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Yes, it is often more rallying when it is sanitary. |
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| Fonzoland | Jan 18 2006, 09:20 PM Post #8 |
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Yeah, I guess I am one of those who always decries remakes. (Not to be confused with different films based on the same book.) I cannot remember any remake that added something to the original. Having said that, I couldn't care less about historical accuracy or PC when seeing a movie, I just care about how well the story is told. Even something with a heavy political agenda behind can be a good movie. I love Battleship Potemkin, that doesn't make me a communist. (does it?)
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| Cluichstan | Jan 18 2006, 09:26 PM Post #9 |
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Wah-wah, boo-hoo. It's a word. Get over it. Words don't hurt people. Bombs do. |
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| Fonzoland | Jan 18 2006, 09:30 PM Post #10 |
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Bombs don't hurt people. Words ordering pilots to drop bombs do.
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| Gruenberg | Jan 18 2006, 09:32 PM Post #11 |
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Words ordering pilots don't hurt people. People [who say the words to the pilots] hurt people. |
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| Cluichstan | Jan 18 2006, 09:32 PM Post #12 |
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| Cobdenia | Jan 18 2006, 09:35 PM Post #13 |
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Bombs don't hurt people. The huge explosion that follows their detonation does. |
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| Cobdenia | Jan 18 2006, 09:36 PM Post #14 |
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Like when they rename dogs?
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Norbert But my name is Steve! No no no, it's spelled, "Steve," but it's pronounced, "Norbert ". You Lie! It's Mr June Rejection Wait, so now my name is Norbert June? | |
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| TBlack | Jan 18 2006, 09:40 PM Post #15 |
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that and not googleing 'napalm' and 'gulf war' |
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