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| Forgottenlord | Jan 1 2006, 06:54 AM Post #16 |
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Because the current administration is a shining example of Republican government :rolleyes: Nor is the previous administration the best example of a Dem government - I think you'd be hard pressed to find a current Dem that could do such a good job plus the fact he was handed a really nice set of cards to begin with doesn't help - Cold War is over and the terrorist threat was only beginning to build. |
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| TBlack | Jan 1 2006, 09:57 AM Post #17 |
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Nevertheless they are a republican government. I don't think Knoot was talking about theoretical ideals more like what the parties are actually like, right now, in reality. Of course I don't know much about economy (I think we've established that, haven't we?) but I think it's less of a 'terrorism treat' and more of the reaction that's causing issues. At least that’s how it looks on this end. |
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| Ausserland | Jan 1 2006, 03:41 PM Post #18 |
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Both Republican and Democratic politicians spend money like it grew on trees. They just spend it on different things.
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| Kenny | Jan 1 2006, 08:17 PM Post #19 |
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Bite my shiny metal ass!
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If I were a Democrat president and I had a Republican Congress to block all the spending I wanted, I'd have an undeserved reputation for "fiscal conservatism" too. If I were a Republican and I refused to veto any spending item my own Congress sent me, I'd have a well-deserved reputation for spending like a drunken sailor. Such is Clinton, such is Bush. |
| "Yeah, I do have some American attitude. Touch me and you get punched." --Ericka Dunlap, Miss America 2004 | |
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| Knootoss | Jan 2 2006, 02:50 AM Post #20 |
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Lessee... the Republicans control every single branch of the government. Does not get more Republican than that. And seriously, the way Bush jacked up the national debt cannot be justified by *any* external circumstance. Taxes that shouldn't have been lowered were lowered as spending went up. Irresponsible.![]()
Aye. In theory even I might be a Republican. And it is not just terror spending that is jacking up the debt. It is a combination of irresponsible tax cuts, expensive neoconservative-fueled wars (such as Iraq) and pork. Expensive reconstruction contracts for friendly corporations, subsidies for oil corporations that drown in profits, moolah for useless Red State infrastructure projects. Yay Republicans. Their reputation for fiscal conservatism is the most underserved one ever. Cutting services and investments such as education and healthcare whilst jacking up "fringe spending" isn't efficient in any way. And cutting taxes whilst in a huge and fast-growing national debt is downright irresponsible. I think the GOP strategy is to keep the U.S. economy, as it is now, on crack until the Dems get back into power at which point the collapse will take place. And it will have to be a Democrat to take the harsh measures to clean up after a failed Republican administration. That is, assuming it is not too late already. |
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| Kenny | Jan 2 2006, 03:19 AM Post #21 |
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Was that supposed to be a response to me? 'Cause I think you're just repeating what I was saying. Bush is irresponsible.
You think pork is limited to red states? All congressmen of both parties battle each year to get the most dough pumped into their home districts, red state, blue state, purple state, green state, hot pink with yellow polka-dot state, whatever state. Just as long as they can go back home during election year and say, "Look at all the cool shit I just got you! Now vote for me again, you schlubs!" Luckily, my own congressmen recently resigned after admitting to accepting $2.4 million in bribes while trying to secure military pork projects for our district in this bluest of blue states, so I don't have to listen to his bullshit anymore.
Five-percent unemployment, hundreds of thousands of jobs added each month, and 3-4 percent quarterly growth, the U.S. economy is doing just fine, thank you. How's Europe's? |
| "Yeah, I do have some American attitude. Touch me and you get punched." --Ericka Dunlap, Miss America 2004 | |
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| Forgottenlord | Jan 2 2006, 05:35 AM Post #22 |
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Um....I believe the term "on crack" doesn't equate to "in the toilet" but rather "hyper-inflated and unstable" |
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| Ecopoeia | Jan 2 2006, 02:52 PM Post #23 |
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Yar! 'Bout time we had some proper political bickering here. Personally, I'd accept any shit Americans are willing to vote themselves into if it weren't for their enormous impact on the rest of the world. American foreign policy has been the single most destructive force the planet has seen in the last century or so and the political flavour of the ruling party has been irrelevant in determining the level of destruction. So I say to all the Americans on these boards: vote Libertarian! But persuade them to pull their heads out of their asses and read up on climate change. Regarding relative economic strength, you should consider the extra structural difficulties Europe faces if you're regarding it as one economy (which you shouldn't anyway). Besides, Knoot and I may be Europeans, but that does't mean we have any more time for our governments than for yours. Goddamn EU can't even get its budget signed off by the auditors... for something like nine years running! |
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| Kenny | Jan 2 2006, 04:36 PM Post #24 |
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Ah. I get it now. I was probably too tired to read it properly last night. |
| "Yeah, I do have some American attitude. Touch me and you get punched." --Ericka Dunlap, Miss America 2004 | |
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| Yelda | Jan 2 2006, 06:24 PM Post #25 |
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I'd say "in the second half of the last century". I think our efforts in WWII were to everyone's benefit and before the second world war we weren't really a "superpower" so our foreign policy had no more impact than many of the european powers.
I have voted for Libertarians in the past (Andre Marrou, 1992). The problem is that the Libertarian presidential candidate is usually the only Libertarian on the ballot (at least on my local ballot). In order to be a "real" party they need to get people elected to Congress and they need to run more candidates in the local/state races. Also, I tend to part ways with them at some point on their economic policies. They basically want to privatize everything. Schools, highways, city streets, municipal water supplies? I don't think thats going to work. |
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| Gruenberg | Jan 2 2006, 06:40 PM Post #26 |
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My intelligent contribution to this topic is going to be: some bloke once said something I can't really remember, but was along the lines of "Leftism is inherently flawed. Any country that adopts it is immediately overrun with American terror squads." *runs and hides* |
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| Yelda | Jan 2 2006, 06:46 PM Post #27 |
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Yep. Watch what happens in Bolivia. |
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| VL | Jan 2 2006, 07:20 PM Post #28 |
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Im am with Yelda. The US's impact on the globe stems on the fact that it was the only country left with somthing of an economy after WWII. The US almost single handedly bank rolled the reconstruction of europe and its companies have been booming our feeble economies for years. But ya gotta take the good with the bad. Good, i live in ireland and the economy is such that i can afford to work 3 days a week and have a decent lifestyle. Bad, GW Bush is in power, dosent give a shit about the environment and his cronies are making a killing in oil and arms sales. And by killing i really mean it. Besides whats even scarier is god is pulling his strings and by that i dont mean Cheney. |
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| TBlack | Jan 2 2006, 07:27 PM Post #29 |
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| Gruenberg | Jan 2 2006, 07:30 PM Post #30 |
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Bush and Cheney really don't matter. I remember what pissed me off in the wake of Katrina was people saying Bush would have acted faster if they'd been white. I don't think he's competent enough to do any better if the people were fucking purple. The driving force of American foreign policy has been and still is the Project for the New American Century, and it's them that I'd be far more concerned about taking on, than on whether Bush can open doors or if Cheney has friends in the oil industry. |
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