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Competitive lists without Hell Pit Abomination?
Topic Started: 9th October 2014 - 09:42 PM (374 Views)
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Just wondering if we can have a competitive Rat list without a Hellpit, Plague Furnace, and Doomwheels?

I was thinking 3 x Gutter Runners and 3 x Poison Wind Globes? in the list?
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9th October 2014 - 09:42 PM
Just wondering if we can have a competitive Rat list without a Hellpit, Plague Furnace, and Doomwheels?

I was thinking 3 x Gutter Runners and 3 x Poison Wind Globes? in the list?
Sure you can, just make sure you're playing against Dwarves without cannons, Elves without Magic, Tomb Kings, or Brets without Horses.
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What about loading out on characters to make up for no Hellpit or Doomwheel, AssassinsChieftains and Warlords.

Assassin, Weeping Blades, Potion of Strength
Assassin, Blade of Corruption, Charmed Shield
Chieftains, Halberds or GW

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Edited by King Rat, 10th October 2014 - 01:12 AM.
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For me it's a matter of Wounds per point. Nothing in the ArmyBook is going to take the kind of punishment those will for the same price. Heck, a Naked Assassin is already as much as a Doom Wheel.
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I have tried double Doomwheel, Double WLC in the past and thought it was pretty good. I generally play 2k point games though.
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Course you can. To a degree I question if you can make a competitive list *with* the Abomb... it's nowhere near as good as it was.

Double WLC instead. Forget the PWG though, I don't think anyone considers them *that* good.

And no there's no way the characters are going to make up the loss of DWs and HPAs. Skaven characters aren't very impressive combat-wise.
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Here is my reasoning on the PWG.

1. Good vs. Armour. They wound on a 4+ no AS so good vs. some of the things we struggle with eg: Empire Stank, Empire nights, WoC, Dwarves
2. Good vs. High toughness. They are good vs. high toughness troops such as monsters: Dragons, Phoenix's, Stegs,
3. Cheap for small unit:Quite cheap for a unit of 6
4. Optional Death Globes for extra damage
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