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Firing a Warpfire Thrower into Skavenslaves
Topic Started: 9th September 2014 - 09:48 PM (683 Views)
Mogsam_


Hi, I'm having some confusion about how this would work. Obviously I'm looking at firing the warpfire throwers into my own slave units to kill the opposition too. But I thought i'd check. When firing into combat are the models under the template hit or are the models randomised by the amounts of hits?

I assume it's the first as the second is massively abuse-able. I'd just be required to flame 50 of my own guys and randomise it. Why bother being responsible and aiming too properly at the enemy when I can do it lazily and "accidently" flame 50 of my own slaves and get more hits?

The ratling gun is obviously randomised but this seems highly unfair!
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We no longer randomise (as per the FAQ ignore that part of the paragraph) so it's just whatever gets hit :D
If the solution isn't 'Rat ogres' then I'm afraid there's not really a problem to start with ... :-D

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Mogsam_


Oh good! Thanks for the exceptionally quick response.

I thought it was stupid and beardy! Though now my slaves will live longer. The lucky buggers.
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Mogsam_
9th September 2014 - 09:53 PM
Oh good! Thanks for the exceptionally quick response.

I thought it was stupid and beardy! Though now my slaves will live longer. The lucky buggers.
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Loooooool....lucky buggers indeed.
If the solution isn't 'Rat ogres' then I'm afraid there's not really a problem to start with ... :-D

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I forget, are warpfire throwers move and shoot? dont have the book in front of me....
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I forget, are warpfire throwers move and shoot? dont have the book in front of me....


Nope, so you've got to plan ahead with their shooting :P

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I'm on a mobile device, so let me check later, but I'm 99% sure you cannot place the template before scatter over friendly models, though it can scatter into them. Even slaves.
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10th September 2014 - 02:13 PM
I'm on a mobile device, so let me check later, but I'm 99% sure you cannot place the template before scatter over friendly models, though it can scatter into them. Even slaves.
You can always place templates over slaves.
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Q: When firing a Warpfire Thrower, can you place the template in such a way that it could hit friendly models after moving the template the distance rolled on the artillery dice? (p60)
A: Yes, though it cannot be placed over any friendly models before you move it.


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Also, Skaven can voluntarily target ranged attacks at enemy units engaged in close combat with Skavensalves (but no other friendly troops).
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The device is fired by placing the flame template with its narrow end touching the Warpfire Thrower barrel and the large end aimed at any target in line of sight.


I leave it to you and the Tourney Organizer to turn those 3 rules into a cognizant construction.
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10th September 2014 - 04:38 PM
Armybook FAQ
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Q: When firing a Warpfire Thrower, can you place the template in such a way that it could hit friendly models after moving the template the distance rolled on the artillery dice? (p60)
A: Yes, though it cannot be placed over any friendly models before you move it.


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Also, Skaven can voluntarily target ranged attacks at enemy units engaged in close combat with Skavensalves (but no other friendly troops).
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The device is fired by placing the flame template with its narrow end touching the Warpfire Thrower barrel and the large end aimed at any target in line of sight.


I leave it to you and the Tourney Organizer to turn those 3 rules into a cognizant construction.
i think 98% of people would agree that it would be able to be placed on slaves....
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Pretty sure you can. And if you can't then I've been doing it wrong.

The first time this situation came up in a game my opponent challenged me over it. So I discussed it with my opponent and after explaining that Skaven are able to target ranged attacks at enemy units fighting in close combat with Skavensalves we both concluded in order to do that you would have to target some of your own slaves in the process. And that's how I've been playing it ever since.
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10th September 2014 - 11:18 PM

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SKAVEN can voluntarily target ranged attacks at enemy units engaged in close combat with Skaven slaves
In skaven vs skaven can you fire into your opponents slaves?
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The only question is whether you can start over slaves, which you should be able to as long as there are no chars in the slave unit.

Templates can hit anyone at any time - you could fire the warpfire thrower into stormvermin, provided the template didn't start over them.

one question I had is that the "marker" where you fire your cannon also counts as a template right? so even if it had no chance of hitting a stormvermin, you could never place it on the stormvermin for positioning right?

for example, your warp fire cannon (WFC) couldn't place the target (x) into the unit of stormvermin (SV) to hit the target (T) ?

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Mosk
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So are you able to potentially fire this into a combat with say, clanrats as long as the template doesnt start over the clanrats? So could you fire your WFT into any combat as long as you dont start the template over your own friendly models?
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McBane
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and not have to randomize the hits? so your stormvermin can lock something up and then the WFT can burn baby burn? as long as you dont hit your own guys with the template?
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