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| Olorin the Ancient | 1st March 2013 - 04:22 PM Post #1 |
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Painting Vows: March 2013 The full set of photos for the Golden Rat 2012 competition for Skaven Army of the Year are now in, with reshoots due by March 13, but we have a lot of exciting new things going on in the Painting and Hobby Tunnels, including our March-April Painting Competition, R.O.U.S. (Rodents of Unusual Size), plus a brand-new feature, currently in development, which we're not yet at liberty to mention. Our Weeklong Painting & Hobby Challenge, held from February 4-11, went terrifically--best response ever, in fact--and you can expect to see another one of those in the not-too-distant future. Meanwhile, the steadiest and securest way to progress in the hobby is by making and fulfilling our Painting Vows, getting P.R.S. points for things you ought to be doing, anyway! - Olorin the Ancient and Skrits Reference List for Vow Values Buying 0 V.V.P.s (Vow Value Points) for buying things. It's not really doing anything, but you can put them in your vows if you want to have a more complete 'to do' list. Assembly 1 V.V.P. for each man sized model. 2 V.V.P.s for each ogre sized model on large bases, weapon teams, and cavalry (same for Tyranid warrior size models). 5 V.V.P.s for Hell Pit Abominations, Screaming Bells/Plague Furnaces, Warp Lightning Cannons, monstrous creatures, tanks, or other large-sized models. NB - Forge World models will vary a lot in size so ask me before deciding on a value for these. Painting 2 V.V.P.s for non-character man-sized models. 4 V.V.P.s for weapon teams or other man-sized models on a cavalry base. 5 V.V.P.s for characters or ogre-sized models (on large bases - same for 40K). 10 V.V.P.s for Hell Pit Abominations, Screaming Bells/Plague Furnaces, Warp Lightning Cannons, monstrous creatures, tanks, or other large-sized models. NB - Again for Forge World models, let us know what it is and we'll decide on a value. Basing 1 V.V.P.s for each model based. Conversions/Green stuff 1 V.V.P.s for a small conversion/green stuff job. 2 V.V.P.s for a large conversion/green stuff job. 4 V.V.P.s for an extremely large conversion/green stuff job.
You'll have to be truthful about what you've done. We can't investigate, so tell the truth; otherwise, you're just lying to yourself. Turning Vow Ratings into P.R.S. Points This is the number of V.V.P.s you need to accumulate to achieve each vow rank (and also the P.R.S. points achieved per vow rank achieved)
Pigmental Plus is a new category for the Painting Vows, introduced in August, 2012. Designed for painters who wish to complete exceptionally ambitious vows, it gives +1 additional P.R.S. point for every 100 points above the basic 200 V.V.P. Pigmental level. So 403 V.V.P.s would earn 14 P.R.S. points--12 P.R.S. points for the initial 200 V.V.P.s, plus another 2 P.R.S. points for the additional 203 V.V.P.s The value of a 403 V.V.P. vow would be expressed as Pigmental +2. CODE Form to Fill Out Copy and paste the form below into a reply post, and fill in what you vow to do and work out your V.V.P.s and vow rating. Copy what you've done, and paste that into your post again. The second time put [ CODE ] [ /CODE ] tags around it, so we can just copy and paste this into the initial post, without having to mutate each post individually (which takes ages). This makes life a lot easier for us when it comes to working the Painting Vows system and ratings, and will stop arguments, as you can work out exactly what rating your vows will get! Replace things in CAPS with the required information. Remove any areas you don't use. In our sample code, "x" represents an integer. Make sure you calculate the V.V.P.s and exchange the "x" in each set of brackets with the number of points you get for each item. Thus, when you begin your vows, the line will normally read
Feel free to add other areas such as Buy: if you want to.
Example Scarfester - Medium Assemble: 10 Clanrats (10 V.V.P.s) - 2 Rat Ogres (4 V.V.P.s) - Paint: 10 Clanrats (20 V.V.P.s) - Completed! 2 Rat Ogres (10 V.V.P.s) - 1 Ratling Gun (4 V.V.P.s) - Base: 10 Clanrats (10 V.V.P.s) - 2 Rat Ogres (2 V.V.P.s) - 1 Ratling Gun (1 V.V.P.s) - Total 61 V.V.P.s = 2 P.R.S. POINTS Total completed 20 V.V.P.s = 1 P.R.S. POINT
NB - Notice that there are 2 lists in this post, so that the second CODE form can be copy/pasted into the initial vows list easily by a member of the P&H team Use -
for each section you have completed!
We suggest that you keep a copy of your vows list saved on your desktop and update and save it as you go. That way you only have a small amount to update and then copy/paste each time you wish to update your vows. We have six members who completed their February 2013 Painting Vows: Git-Git Little Wolf Marbrook martycore Overlord Dror Skritrik The same two members who topped the achievements list last month, martycore and Overlord Dror, did so once again, tying with 302 points each for a ranking of Pigmental +1. Well done, everyone. The March 2013 Painting Vows! Listed in alphabetical order by member name --- Bounty - Medium Dis-Assemble: 1 Jar of Plague Monks (0 V.V.P.s) - Assemble: 50 Plague Monks (50 V.V.P.s) - Total 50 V.V.P.s = 2 P.R.S. POINTS Total completed 0 V.V.P.s = 0 P.R.S. POINTS --- CapAmr05- Easy/ Medium Paint: 12 Slaves (24 V.V.P.s) - Base: 12 Slaves (12 V.V.P.s) - Total 36 V.V.P.s = 2 P.R.S. POINTS Total completed 0 V.V.P.s = 0 P.R.S. POINTS --- Crichquol - Insane Buy: 40 Clanrats/Slaves (0 V.V.P.s) - Completed! 20 Plague Monks (0 V.V.P.s) - Completed! 20 Night Runners (0 V.V.P.s) - Completed! Assemble: 40 Clanrats/Slaves (40 V.V.P.s) - Completed! 20 Plague Monks (20 V.V.P.s) - 20 Night Runners (20 V.V.P.s) - Completed! Conversion/Green Stuff: 8 Clanrats/Slaves (8 V.V.P.s) - Completed! 9 Plague Monks (9 V.V.P.s) - 4 Night Runners (4 V.V.P.s) - Completed! Total 101 V.V.P.s = 5 P.R.S. POINTS Total completed 72 V.V.P.s = 3 P.R.S. POINTS --- Ghaznub - Medium Assemble: 3 Skullcrushers (6 V.V.P.s) - Conversion/Green Stuff: 5 Nurgle Chaos Warriors (5 V.V.P.s) - Completed Paint: 3 Skullcrushers (15 V.V.P.s) - 5 Nurgle Chaos Warriors (10 V.V.P.s) - 1 Sculpted Movement Trays (2 V.V.P.s) - Base: 2 Skullcrushers (2 V.V.P.s) - 5 Nurgle Chaos Warriors (5 V.V.P.s) - Total 45 V.V.P.s = 2 P.R.S. POINTS Total completed 5 V.V.P.s = 0 P.R.S. POINTS --- Git-Git - Medium Assemble: Wood Elf Noble (1 V.V.P.s) - Completed! Wood Elf Highborn (1 V.V.P.s) - Completed! 2 Packmasters (2 V.V.P.s) - Completed! Conversion/Green Stuff: 12 Skavenslaves (chain gangs) (12 V.V.P.s) - Completed! Wood Elf Noble (1 V.V.P.s) - Completed! Wood Elf Higborn (1 V.V.P.s) - Completed! Paint: Mangler Squigs (5 V.V.P.s) - Completed! Forest Dragon (10 V.V.P.s) - Ghost Fence set (4 V.V.P.s) - Completed! Base: Mangler Squigs (1 V.V.P.s) - Completed! Forest Dragon (1 V.V.P.s) - Total 39 V.V.P.s = 2 P.R.S. POINTS Total completed 28 V.V.P.s = 1 P.R.S. POINTS --- Host Tar - Hard Buy: 1 Warlock Engineer (0 V.V.P.s) - Assemble: 1 Warlock Engineer (1 V.V.P.s) - Completed! 1 Necron Nightscythe (5 V.V.P.S) - Completed! 1 Necron Doomscythe (5 V.V.P.S) - Completed! 3 Ungors (3 V.V.P.s) - 1 Ungor (1 V.V.P.s) - Completed! Paint: 10 Clanrats (20 V.V.P.s) - 2 Warlock Engineers (4 V.V.P.s) - 1 Skink (2 V.V.P.s) - 1 Skink (2 V.V.P.s) - Completed! 1 Necron Nightscythe (10 V.V.P.S) - Completed! 1 Necron Doomscythe (10 V.V.P.S) - Completed! 4 Ungors (4 V.V.P.s) - Base: 15 Clanrats (15 V.V.P.s) - 2 Warlock Engineers (2 V.V.P.s) - 1 Skink (1 V.V.P.s) - 1 Skink (1 V.V.P.s) - Completed! 1 Necron Nightscythe (1 V.V.P.S) - Completed! 1 Necron Doomscythe (1 V.V.P.S) - Completed! 4 Ungors (4 V.V.P.s) - Total 92 V.V.P.s = 3 P.R.S POINTS Total completed 37 V.V.P.s = 2 P.R.S POINTS --- Little Wolf- Hard Assemble: 10 Giant Rats (10 V.V.P.s) - completed! 2 Packmasters (2 V.V.P.s) - completed! 8 Plague Monks (8 V.V.P.s) - completed! 2 Plague Monks (5 V.V.P.s) - Paint: 6 Skavenslaves (12 V.V.P.s) - completed! 7 Clanrats (14 V.V.P.s) - completed! 1 Troll (5 V.V.P.s) - Base: 40 Skavenslaves (40 V.V.P.s) - 2 Weaponteams (2 V.V.P.s) - 1 Troll (1 V.V.P.) - 7 Clanrats (7 V.V.P.s) - Total 100 V.V.P.s = 3 P.R.S. POINTS Total completed 46 V.V.P.s = 2 P.R.S. POINTS --- Marbrook- Medium Paint: 15 Plague Monks (30 V.V.P.s) - 5 Clanrats (10 V.V.P.s) - Total 40 V.V.P.s = 2 P.R.S. POINTS Total completed 0 V.V.P.s = 0 P.R.S. POINTS --- martycore - easy Assemble: Burning Chariot of Tzeentch (5 V.V.P.s) - Completed! Paint: Chimera (10 V.V.P.s) - Completed! Vindicator (10 V.V.P.s) - Completed! 10 Space Marines (10 V.V.P.s) - Completed! Total 35 V.V.P.s = 2 P.R.S. POINTS Total completed 35 V.V.P.s = 2 P.R.S. POINTS --- Nazarath - Completely Insane Clean & Disassemble: 1 Oxyotl ( 0 V.V.P.s) - Completed! 1 Damsel (0 V.V.P.s) - Completed! 1 Damsel on Horse (0 V.V.P.s) - Completed! 6 Metal Robots ( 0 V.V.P.s) - Completed! Assemble: 1 Oxyotl ( 1 V.V.P.s) - 2 Damsels (2 V.V.P.s) - 10 Empire Flagellants Mutated into Slaves (10 V.V.P.s) - Conversion/Green Stuff: 5 Empire Flagellants Mutated into Somewhat more downtrodden Slaves (5 V.V.P.s) - Zombie Easter Chicken (4 V.V.P.s) - Completed! Paint: 41 Plague Monks (82 V.V.P.s) - 4 The Forgotten (they probably tried to escape earlier) Dwarf Slaves (8 V.V.P.s) - Zombie Easter Chicken (5 V.V.P.s) - Completed! Base: 41 Plague Monks (41 V.V.P.s) - 4 Dwarf Slaves (4 V.V.P.s) - Total 162 V.V.P.s = 8 P.R.S. POINTS Total completed 9 V.V.P.s = 0 P.R.S. POINTS --- Olorin the Ancient - Completely Insane Assemble: 80 Skavenslaves (80 V.V.P.s) - 10 Giant Rats (10 V.V.P.s) - Paint: 20 Clanrats (40 V.V.P.s) - Base: 20 Clanrats (20 V.V.P.s) - Total 150 V.V.P.s = 8 P.R.S. POINTS Total completed 0 V.V.P.s = 0 P.R.S. POINTS --- Overlord Dror - Pigmental +1 Assemble: 3 Dropships (15 V.V.P.s) - completed Chaos Lord Tz (1 V.V.P.s) - completed Throgg (2 V.V.P. s) - completed 2 Exalted Heroes (2 V.V.P. s) - completed 6 characters (6 V.V.P. s) - completed Chimera (5 V.V.P. s) - completed 16 archers (16 V.V.P. s) - completed 32 men-at-arms (32 V.V.P. s) - completed Paint: 3 Dropships (30 V.V.P.s) - completed Chaos Lord Tz (5 V.V.P.s) -competed Throgg (5 V.V.P. s) - completed 2 Exalted Heroes (10 V.V.P. s) - completed 6 characters (30 V.V.P. s) - completed Chimera (10 V.V.P. s) - completed 16 archers (32 V.V.P. s) - completed 32 men-at-arms (64 V.V.P. s) - competed Base: Chaos Lord Tz (1 V.V.P.s) - completed Throgg (1 V.V.P. s) - completed 2 Exalted Heroes (2 V.V.P. s) - completed 6 characters (6 V.V.P. s) - completed Chimera (1 V.V.P. s) - completed 16 archers (16 V.V.P. s) - completed 32 men-at-arms (V.V.P. s) - completed Total 330 V.V.P.s = 13 P.R.S. POINTS Total completed 330 V.V.P.s = 13 P.R.S. POINTS --- Skaven Rich - completely Insane Assemble: 20 Night runners (20 V.V.P.s) - Completed! 6 Poisoned Wind Globadiers (6 V.V.P.s) -Completed! 11 Storm Vermin (11 V.V.P.s)-Completed! Paint: 20 Night runners (40 V.V.P.s) - Completed! 6 Poisoned Wind Globadiers (12 V.V.P.s) - Completed! 11 Storm Vermin (22 V.V.P.s)-Completed! 5 Giant Rats (10 V.V.P.s)-Completed! Base: 20 Night runners (20 V.V.P.s) - Completed! 6 Poisoned Wind Globadiers (6 V.V.P.s)- Completed! 11 Storm Vermin (11 V.V.P.s)-Completed! Total 158 V.V.P.s = 8 P.R.S. POINTS Total completed 158 V.V.P.s = 8 P.R.S. POINTS --- Skritrik - Insane Assemble: 14 Clan rats (14 V.V.P.s) - Completed! 6 Clan rats (6 V.V.P.s) - Grey Seer (1 V.V.P.s) - Warplightning canon (5 V.V.P.s) - 6 Ravenwing bikers (12 V.V.P.s) - 1 Ravenwing Attackbike (2 V.V.P.s) - Paint: 14 Clan rats (28 V.V.P.s) - Completed! 6 Clan rats (12 V.V.P.s) - Grey Seer (5 V.V.P.s) - Warplightning Canon (10 V.V.P.s) - Base: 20 Clan rats (20 V.V.P.s) - Grey seer (1 V.V.P.s) - Warp lightning cannon (1 V.V.P.s) - Warlock engineer (1 V.V.P.s) - Total 118 V.V.P.s = 5 P.R.S. POINTS Total completed 42 V.V.P.s = 2 P.R.S. POINTS --- Tezzmaniak - Medium Assemble: 5 Gutterrunners (5 V.V.P.s) - Completed! 1 Warlord on Bonebreaker (2 V.V.P.s) - Completed! 1 PPC (5 V.V.P.s) - Completed! Conversion/Green Stuff: 5 Gutterrunners (5 V.V.P.s) - Completed! 1 Warlord on Bonebreaker (4 V.V.P.s) - Completed! 1 PPC (4 V.V.P.s) - Completed! Paint: 5 Gutterrunners (10 V.V.P.s) - Completed! 1 Warlord on Bonebreaker (5 V.V.P.s) - Completed! 1 PPC (10 V.V.P.s) - Completed! Base: 5 Gutterrunners (5 V.V.P.s) - Completed! 1 Warlord on Bonebreaker (1 V.V.P.s) - Completed! 1 PPC (1 V.V.P.s) - Total 57 V.V.P.s = 2 P.R.S. POINTS Total completed 56 V.V.P.s = 2 P.R.S. POINTS --- Valmiir - Medium Assemble: 6 Gutter Runners (6 V.V.P.s) - Completed! Paint: 9 Gutter Runners (18 V.V.P.s) - Completed! Tretch Craventail (5 V.V.P.s) - Completed! Base: 9 Gutter Runners (9 V.V.P.s) - Completed! Tretch Craventail (1 V.V.P.s) - Completed! Total 39 V.V.P.s = 2 P.R.S. POINTS Total completed 39 V.V.P.s = 2 P.R.S. POINTS --- Edited by Olorin the Ancient, 6th April 2013 - 02:17 PM.
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| Nurglitch IX | 1st March 2013 - 05:49 PM Post #2 |
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Bounty - Medium Dis-Assemble: 1 Jar of Plague Monks (0 V.V.P.s) - Assemble: 50 Plague Monks (50 V.V.P.s) - Total 50 V.V.P.s = 2 P.R.S. POINTS Total completed 0 V.V.P.s = 0 P.R.S. POINTS
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| Marbrook | 1st March 2013 - 05:55 PM Post #3 |
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Marbrook- Medium Paint: 15 Plague Monks (30 V.V.P.s) - 5 Clanrats (10 V.V.P.s) - Total 40 V.V.P.s = 2 P.R.S. POINTS Total completed 0 V.V.P.s = 0 P.R.S. POINTS
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| Ratt Baron | 1st March 2013 - 06:27 PM Post #4 |
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please bear with me if this is wrong but as you`ve probably guessed already my comp skills are limited sorry Code Skavenrich - insane Assemble: 20 nightrunners (20 V.V.P.s) - 6 poison wind globiders(6 V.V.P.s) Paint: 20 nightrunners (40 V.V.P.s) - 6 poison wind globiders(12 V.V.P.s) Base: 20 night runners (20 V.V.P.s) - 6 poison wind globiders (6 V.V.P.s) - Total 104 V.V.P.s] = 5 P.R.S. POINTS Total completed 0 V.V.P.s = 0 P.R.S. POINT |
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| Ghaznub | 1st March 2013 - 08:32 PM Post #5 |
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This month shall be done! even if easter is in there... and the sons birthday... ( get my excuses in now ) Ghaznub - Medium Assemble: 3 Skullcrushers (6 V.V.P.s) - Conversion/Green Stuff: 5 Nurgle Chaos Warriors (5 V.V.P.s) - Paint: 3 Skullcrushers (15 V.V.P.s) - 5 Nurgle Chaos Warriors (10 V.V.P.s) - 1 Sculpted Movement Trays (2 V.V.P.s) - Base: 2 Skullcrushers (2 V.V.P.s) - 5 Nurgle Chaos Warriors (5 V.V.P.s) - Total 45 V.V.P.s = 2 P.R.S. POINTS Total completed 0 V.V.P.s = 0 P.R.S. POINTS
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| Olorin the Ancient | 2nd March 2013 - 02:44 AM Post #6 |
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Vows updated! Skavenrich, you need to repost, with the vows both in regular form and in a code window. Don't edit your earlier post--that's a common mistake, but the moderators don't look back, so we won't see your changes--make a new post with everything in the correct format. |
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| Ratt Baron | 2nd March 2013 - 08:52 AM Post #7 |
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please bear with me sorry Code Skavenrich - insane Assemble: 20 nightrunners (20 V.V.P.s) - 6 poison wind globiders(6 V.V.P.s) Paint: 20 nightrunners (40 V.V.P.s) - 6 poison wind globiders(12 V.V.P.s) Base: 20 night runners (20 V.V.P.s) - 6 poison wind globiders (6 V.V.P.s) - Total 104 V.V.P.s] = 5 P.R.S. POINTS Total completed 0 V.V.P.s = 0 P.R.S. POINT Code:
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| Olorin the Ancient | 2nd March 2013 - 09:13 AM Post #8 |
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Skavenrich, there are still problems with your code! All you have to do is copy the sample code exactly, substitute the models you're working on (with the proper values, of course) for the ones that are listed, and you'll get it right! For that matter, Ghaznub and Marbrook got it perfectly, so you could copy them. The formatting has to be exactly as shown in the sample. I hate to say this, but you need to do it again. |
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| Ratt Baron | 2nd March 2013 - 11:16 AM Post #9 |
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Skaven Rich - Insane Assemble: 20 night runners (20 V.V.P.s) - 6 poison wind globiders (6 V.V.P.s) - etc. Paint: 20 Night runners (40 V.V.P.s) - 6 poison wind globiders (12 V.V.P.s) - etc. Base: 20 Night runners (20 V.V.P.s) - 6 poison wind globiders (6 V.V.P.s)- Total 104 V.V.P.s = 5 P.R.S. POINTS Total completed 0 V.V.P.s = 0 P.R.S. POINTS
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| martycore | 2nd March 2013 - 01:07 PM Post #10 |
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i may have topped the ranks for the past two months, but i'm taking it easy now as all my 3rd year uni stuff is kicking off x] dissertation is 14000 words... also have to make an album at least 1 hr long... martycore - easy Assemble: Burning Chariot of Tzeentch (5 V.V.P.s) - Paint: Chimera (10 V.V.P.s) - Vindicator (10 V.V.P.s) - 10 Space Marines (10 V.V.P.s) - Total 35 V.V.P.s = 2 P.R.S. POINTS Total completed 0 V.V.P.s = 0 P.R.S. POINTS
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| Host Tar | 2nd March 2013 - 05:17 PM Post #11 |
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Host Tar - Hard Buy: 1 Warlock Engineer (0 V.V.P.s) - Assemble: 1 Warlock Engineer (1 V.V.P.s) - 1 Necron Nightscythe (5 V.V.P.S) - 1 Necron Doomscythe (5 V.V.P.S) - 4 Ungors (4 V.V.P.s) - Paint: 10 Clanrats (20 V.V.P.s) - 2 Warlock Engineers (4 V.V.P.s) - 2 Skinks (4 V.V.P.s) - 1 Necron Nightscythe (10 V.V.P.S) - 1 Necron Doomscythe (10 V.V.P.S) - 4 Ungors (4 V.V.P.s) - Base: 15 Clanrats (15 V.V.P.s) - 2 Warlock Engineers (2 V.V.P.s) - 2 Skinks (2 V.V.P.s) - 1 Necron Nightscythe (1 V.V.P.S) - 1 Necron Doomscythe (1 V.V.P.S) - 4 Ungors (4 V.V.P.s) - Total 92 V.V.P.s = 3 P.R.S POINTS Total completed 0 V.V.P.s = 0 P.R.S POINTS
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| Olorin the Ancient | 2nd March 2013 - 05:55 PM Post #12 |
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Vows updated! Skavenrich, this time your vows were perfect, except that you misspelled your own username as "Skaven Rich", when it's actually "skavenrich". We're dealing with a database here, so these things matter. You've been through enough, so I fixed it for you, this once. Personally, it drives me crazy when people don't capitalize their usernames, forcing me to spend a few extra seconds each time to get their username right, but I follow their spellings even when I dislike them. (Dislike the spellings, that is, not the people. Some of our best members actually use all lowercase spellings in their usernames. I wish they'd spell normally, but I don't dislike them for it.) If you want to be "Skaven Rich" or "Skavenrich", you'll be allowed to change the spelling without a problem, but until then, your username should be spelled exactly as it was when you created it, as "skavenrich". |
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| Ratt Baron | 3rd March 2013 - 12:03 AM Post #13 |
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Ahhhhhhhhh. Sorry. But I really am no good on a comp. will try harder as at 45 I need to stop relying on number 1son to sort my posts out |
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| Olorin the Ancient | 3rd March 2013 - 12:28 AM Post #14 |
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Believe me, being 45 isn't old--I'm 47, myself. Now, recognizing a Charlie Chan reference, that makes you old! |
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| Nurglitch IX | 3rd March 2013 - 01:41 AM Post #15 |
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I didn't realize it was so obscure a reference when I used it in a LARP once. I got so many complements on my Charlie Chan rip-offs because it was such an original idea. I even called one fo them number 5 son... |
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