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| Tweet Topic Started: 20th September 2012 - 01:04 AM (745 Views) | |
| SeBM | 20th September 2012 - 01:04 AM Post #1 |
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Hey guys! First time poster but long time lurker here. I've been painting WHFB armies for quite a while and I have the IOB Skaven force. I've always been a huge fan of the models and I've been itching to paint them and use them as a new army in the near future. I'm really clueless as to how to paint them though. The part I'm most worried about is the skin. How do you guys do it? If you have a cool recipe, please share it with me! Posting pics or links would be appreciated as well. I use the previous GW paint set and have access to every color. Thanks and looking forward to reading you guys! |
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| Scarecrow | 20th September 2012 - 01:14 AM Post #2 |
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This has been covered allot already but another go doesn't hurt. I use a base coat of rotting flesh, wash with ogryn flesh and then with devlan mud. Here's an example:
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TRADE I'm looking for Dark Eldar to convert into DE. Also looking for bretonnia lances and halberds. If anyone has any they would be interested in trading PM me and we can work something out. "And, most vivid of all, there was the dramatic epic of the rats––the scampering army of obscene vermin which had burst forth from the castle three months after the tragedy that doomed it to desertion––the lean, filthy, ravenous army which had swept all before it and devoured fowl, cats, dogs, hogs, sheep and even two hapless human beings before its fury was spent. Around that unforgettable rodent army a whole separate cycle of myths revolves, for it scattered among the village homes and brought curses and horrors in its train." – The Rats In The Walls, H.P. Lovecraft | |
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| SeBM | 20th September 2012 - 01:18 AM Post #3 |
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So you basically just basecoat then give the flesh 2 washes and you are done? I think those look cool and I'd be happy if it's that simple to get such a good looking flesh tone! Do you have an army diary where I can see more of your work? |
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| Shadowsliver | 20th September 2012 - 06:06 AM Post #4 |
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Welcome to join the filthy "ranks" of skaven! There are many quite easy techniques for painting skin. Consider what tone you would prefare. A bit lighter or a bit darker? A bit green, yellow, red, brown tone? Then pick a flesh tone that fits (elf flesh is darker, dwarf flesh a bit red, rotting flesh slightly green, etc). As a new painter, dont forget to apply quite thin layers. Also, have you desided on what primer/undercoat to use? If you use black, it might be good to apply two layers of basecoat, and to add some white to your first layer, that way you will get the best coverage. If you're fine with a bit more dirty looking models, you can skip this tip to speed up the painting. After the basecoat is done you can either go a bit advanced: - Highlight the raised areas slightly with basecoat + bleached bone (or white) to increase contrast. And possibly glaze (water down the paint, but make sure you dont paint with a soaked brush, the paint should not pool much) the skin in various locations with orange, brown, red or similar, to give the skin more life. Or just wash / shade it directly. If the wash/shader makes the skin look to dirty, touch up the skin with the basecoat again, at elevated possitions (if you touch up the skin, you should wait with the "advanced highlight and/or glaze"-stage until after this is done. My recipe is: White undercoat, elf flesh basecoat, orange and red glazes on selected areas, elf flesh + white (and finally plain white for sharp edges of wounds etc). Then I apply a "light walnut shader", originally for staining/varnishing wood, but works well for me. It is slow drying, thus gives a smoother transition than with washes (alteast I personally recieve better results than with washes). The shader is quite similar to whats used when dipping miniatures, but I paint it on, instead of a wash. Clan rats. For my clanrats, I skip the glaze and highlight stages, so just white undercoat, elf flesh basecoat and walnut shader. ![]() Plague monk. For everything that is higher in the food chain than the clan rats, I include glazing and highlighting as described above. ![]() Hope you find some of the information helpful. Feel free to check out my army at warseer.com, link in my signature. Unfortunatly, I have not had time to update it for quite a while. |
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| Kimzi | 20th September 2012 - 08:27 AM Post #5 |
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My rats are mostly furred, and only a few select areas (tail, snout) are skin-coloured. But for those bits all I use is Talarn Flesh basecoat and a very very watered down Red Gore wash. ![]() |
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| Scarecrow | 20th September 2012 - 09:18 AM Post #6 |
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First, to answer your question I kinda have an army diary but not really. That is to say I don't update it very often. Here's the link for ya anyway http://s6.zetaboards.com/The_UnderEmpire/topic/8808026/1/ Second, I agree completely with what Shadowsilver said, except for base coating. I find that if you use a black primer you only need one base coat and the tone will be darker. If you use a white primer you'll some times have to use two base coats so the white doesn't bleed through and the color will be lighter. For Skaven I find a brown primer to be ideal. It's light enough that the colors aren't too muted but dark enough that you only need one base coat. Plus it gives a slight muddied look to the model. For basic Skaven (anything with more than two ranks, so most everything) I tend to shy away from highlighting because it simply takes way too long. a base coat of cloth, metal, skin and fir plus devlan mud wash is really all you need and with that I can finish a rank (5 dudes) in about and hour and a half. The great thing about this is that's it's a hobby so just practice and see what you like. Try highlighting, maybe you can do it quicker than I can Play with it, see what you like and what you don't. Or better what works and what doesn't. The reason why I use the skin scheme that I do is because rotten flesh is way too green by itself for skaven. The Ogryn flesh is adds allot of red to the tone, bringing life back into it. The the Dev. Mud muddies the previous blend and adds grunge. The end result is a subterranean, living, rotting flesh that's dirty. But that's just how I like mine. Pick an idea try/use it but don't ever be afraid of changing it. Skaven, like all other races, come from different regions and thus have different skin tones. You could even make a miss-mash (SP) army where most of the models have a different skin color depending on where they came from. That could be a pretty cool army to see. Good luck. |
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TRADE I'm looking for Dark Eldar to convert into DE. Also looking for bretonnia lances and halberds. If anyone has any they would be interested in trading PM me and we can work something out. "And, most vivid of all, there was the dramatic epic of the rats––the scampering army of obscene vermin which had burst forth from the castle three months after the tragedy that doomed it to desertion––the lean, filthy, ravenous army which had swept all before it and devoured fowl, cats, dogs, hogs, sheep and even two hapless human beings before its fury was spent. Around that unforgettable rodent army a whole separate cycle of myths revolves, for it scattered among the village homes and brought curses and horrors in its train." – The Rats In The Walls, H.P. Lovecraft | |
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| SeBM | 20th September 2012 - 10:30 AM Post #7 |
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Thanks for your answers guys! I've been painting for a few years and I'm working on a LM army but I've been itching to paint the beautiful Skaven models for a while which explains why I'm asking about them now even though I've had them for over a year and a half. I'm an able painter but seeing how 600 pts of skaven is a lot of models, I'm looking for a simple way to get tabletop or higher quality quickly with the Skaven and revisit them a little bit later when I'm done painting everything I own (which might very well never happen since I keep buying stuff and I'm quite the slow painter)! So once again thanks for the cool advice, appreciate it a lot! |
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