| Elite Skaven Army?; Is it possible? How would it be done? | ||
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| Tweet Topic Started: 25th July 2012 - 06:37 AM (1,257 Views) | ||
| Stalarious | 25th July 2012 - 06:37 AM Post #1 | |
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Ok I know that we are a horde army and that we have great strength in this. However I know from other horde armies that making a elite army is possible although not as good as others in there elite status(HE stinking elf-things) but I have seen it be effective for beastmen. So this is the question can skaven make a elite army? is it possible? and although I dont imagine it being a tourney list, can it win battles? this is a question to get my army building juices flowing for my first army list. Thank you for all your replies. |
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| tezzmaniak | 25th July 2012 - 07:01 AM Post #2 | |
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Do you refer to min core and max specials, rares and chars? I think most armies do min core. I hardly ever see an army that have over 30% core. I see a lot of threath with loads of GR. Sometimes a big group of Globadiers with a Mortar. The rares are filled up most of the time with Abos (one or two) and doomwheels/WLC. For the core you don't have any choice but to bring hordes of Rats. |
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| Nurglitch IX | 25th July 2012 - 07:34 AM Post #3 | |
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Not really. Skaven don't have Elites, they have chaff, they have slightly stronger chaff, and they have OMG WTF, who signed off on that ?!?!?!?! Now it's kinda possible to get some of our stuff a little harder but it requires named characters. Most people don't build with them because only about 30% of the games allow them. If you want to see more, try this: Elite Army Threads |
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| Scarr, Reincarnated | 25th July 2012 - 07:37 AM Post #4 | |
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In my eyes it is kinda possible, but you can't expect anything to wreck your opponent in one go with Skaven. We win the combats because we are cheap, and Plague Monks in particular can deliver the damage for small coin. | |
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| Stalarious | 25th July 2012 - 10:37 AM Post #5 | |
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Well what I was meaning is well Ill use beastmen they can make a chariot/razagor army thats effective and it takes them away from being a horde army into a elite army. Know this second part may just me dreaming but I believe that they have a character that allows them to make a all minotuar army as well (I can never remember all of my armies stuff without my book with me) So is there a way to do that with some form of battle effectiveness? if so could you please show me a example? reason being I have noticed that the other horde armies can pull it off so I am trying to see what a skaven elite army might consider. |
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| SkavenDan | 25th July 2012 - 10:57 AM Post #6 | |
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Stormvermin for core Plague monks in special Make sure you get wither halberds + wither generally means your wounding on 2s |
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| snowblizz | 25th July 2012 - 11:15 AM Post #7 | |
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No such thing. 6th ed book could have core Minotaurs, but not now. |
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| tezzmaniak | 25th July 2012 - 11:15 AM Post #8 | |
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Well you kinda miss out on a monsterous infantry that is good. You might try it with RO. I would say double Abomb, 2* 13 GR is a nice start Maybe double GS for lords or GS and warlord on bonebreaker in RO. SV for core. WE with gadgets. Is this the way you are thinking? |
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| Stalarious | 25th July 2012 - 12:00 PM Post #9 | |
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Yeah along those lines of trying to build a skaven army that is not horde but still combat effective Like skavendan listed. | |
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| Nurglitch IX | 25th July 2012 - 04:18 PM Post #10 | |
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Look at what you posted. To paraphrase: I can take non-infantry as core, and build an army that doesn't need numbers. There's no way to do that in Skaven, because almost everything is simple infantry. The best 'elite' skaven you're likely to get is either Queek upgraded storm vermin, WS5, S4, T3, A1, W1 at 5.5 slaves each. But you only get one of those units. You can also elite using Skrolk to get Monks, or Throt to get Rat Ogres, but Rat Ogres are Tissue Tigers. They'll tear up anything you can get into base with, but even basic ranged attacks drop them hard. |
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| Stalarious | 26th July 2012 - 08:07 AM Post #11 | |
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Ok thanks for all the info guys youve given me alot to think about. Guess sometimes wishes and expectations arent realistic.
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